It's Time to Upgrade Free Speech to Fair Speech

Vbeacher

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Tecumsehsbones said:
He has the best of intentions. He wants to suppress speech that's dangerous to society. Which is pretty much the same rationale they used when they locked up Martin Luther King for his speech, which was a danger to the social order.
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The best of intentions. Where have I heard THAT lately...?

Many still regard Marxism as a good idea that fell into bad hands, notably Lenin’s and Stalin’s. I prefer the view of Martin Amis, expressed in The New York Times the other day: “It was not a good idea that somehow went wrong. It was a very bad idea from the outset, forced into life with barely imaginable self-righteousness, pedantry, dynamism and horror.” It defied human nature, so humans accepted it only under threat of violence, which inevitably was applied. In the hands of bullies who wanted power, Marxism was a terrifying weapon.

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The present US power struckture ? Shouldnt eugenics be revisited? I should hope so.Sterilization certainly results in containment, until the problem can be eradicated. How many Trumps can be tolerated? Two maybe.

The orange mouthpiece could be olected pure shit when you might have elected pure vomit. Not much of a choice I think. However that's the way Empires go. Here today gone tommorow. Evolution, and we will witness fifteen or twenty years of Empirial disintigration, maybe,if were lucky, we'll get to witness the entire collapse of evil incarnate.
The slower the better. Isn't the screaming beautiful.
 
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Tecumsehsbones said:
Interesting that you agree with Trump, rather than Benjamin Franklin.
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That false equivalence again.

You guys aren't even trying anymore.

Vbeacher said:
The best of intentions. Where have I heard THAT lately...?

Many still regard Marxism as a good idea that fell into bad hands, notably Lenin’s and Stalin’s. I prefer the view of Martin Amis, expressed in The New York Times the other day: “It was not a good idea that somehow went wrong. It was a very bad idea from the outset, forced into life with barely imaginable self-righteousness, pedantry, dynamism and horror.” It defied human nature, so humans accepted it only under threat of violence, which inevitably was applied. In the hands of bullies who wanted power, Marxism was a terrifying weapon.

Robert Fulford: Smart people still fall for the murderous fraud of communism | National Post
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Are all liberscaredians this stupid?

The world is more granular than this.


Unless you're Colpy.


He's a fukken Nazi.
 
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mentalfloss said:
That false equivalence again.

You guys aren't even trying anymore.



Are all liberscaredians this stupid?

The world is more granular than this.


Unless you're Colpy.


He's a fukken Nazi.
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Still trolling after all these years.
 
Jinentonix

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mentalfloss said:
Free speech clearly makes you very angry.
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I'm not the little pussy who created a thread railing against free speech there tovarishch.
The idea of free speech obviously scares you AND makes YOU quite angry based on the number of times you've called those who disagree with you a nazi.

Just admit you want govt controlled speech and quit pretending it's about some mythical "fairness". There's no such thing as "fair speech".
 
Tecumsehsbones

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Jinentonix said:
I'm not the little pussy who created a thread railing against free speech there tovarishch.
The idea of free speech obviously scares you AND makes YOU quite angry based on the number of times you've called those who disagree with you a nazi.
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Well, to be fair, your Halloween SS uniform costume isn't really helping your case much here.

Just admit you want govt controlled speech and quit pretending it's about some mythical "fairness". There's no such thing as "fair speech".
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Sure there is. It just can't be produced by government action.
 
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Jinentonix said:
Just admit you want govt controlled speech and quit pretending it's about some mythical "fairness". There's no such thing as "fair speech".
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I'd love to see the proverbial equation that will deliver the definition of 'fair'.

We see this in the taxation system every year when gubmint rails about fair share and then proceeds to discriminate against select income demographics.

I can only imagine that fair in terms of speech, expression or beliefs will be a far more slippery slope

Tecumsehsbones said:
Well, to be fair, your Halloween SS uniform costume isn't really helping your case much here.
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Au contraire mon frere ~ that SS uniform may in fact be the ultimate form of freedom of expression relative to our contemporary times
 
Jinentonix

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Tecumsehsbones said:
Well, to be fair, your Halloween SS uniform costume isn't really helping your case much here.
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At least mine's just a costume for one day of the year. Flossy wears his fascist uniform everyday.


Tecumsehsbones said:
Sure there is. It just can't be produced by government action.
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Bingo! That's the issue these SJWs have. They think society needs to be fixed when society isn't the problem, humanity is.
 
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Jinentonix said:
At least mine's just a costume for one day of the year. Flossy wears his fascist uniform everyday.


Bingo! That's the issue these SJWs have. They think society needs to be fixed when society isn't the problem, humanity is.
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More importantly (I think), is that they conflate society and government. Societal change is absolutely possible. Examples abound. But government action is a minor and dangerous, likely-to-backfire, and often ineffective element of societal change.

Fewer laws. More ethics.
 
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captain morgan said:
This comment reminds me of the statement that common sense is highly uncommon (or words to that effect)
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The amazing British Empire, for all the wrong it did in the world, was grounded on the fact that a nineteen-year-old subaltern with a nine-month round trip message time to his nearest superior would behave exactly as he would have behaved in London under heavy supervision (and often "better" by the standards of his society).
 
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