It's Time to Upgrade Free Speech to Fair Speech

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You don't understand that people make this decision for themselves.

Hate speech laws wouldn't even be a thing if they didn't have overwhelming support.


By the people.
 

DaSleeper

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Bingo.

.. And the big question is: Who sits in judgement as to deciding what speech is fair?

Georgie Orwell would be sickened by the gravitas of this ridiculous movement
I'll bet that book burning started that way with panels judging what is acceptable reading and what is not......
Poor Trudope doesn't even realize that his sig says it all

 

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If that were true then we would have been burning books in the 80s.

It's okay to admit you're just a pussy.
 

Cannuck

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Fair speech is simply a reasonable amendment to free speech that everyone can agree with.

For example, no Nazi parades.

Oktoberfest is cool though.



Even people who understand 1984 don't believe this tripe.

Freedom and democracy are not synonymous. Clearly you believe the latter trumps the former.
 

captain morgan

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You don't understand that people make this decision for themselves.

Hate speech laws wouldn't even be a thing if they didn't have overwhelming support.


By the people.


Alright... So understanding that people have the capacity to assess, in their own mind, what qualifies as fair speech, then every perspective is fair as long as one person deems it fair.

That said, there would be no such thing as hate speech, right?

PS - DaS is right, your sig, if objected to by anyone, would be a form of hate speech... Kinda hypocritical for you to act as champion of fair speech with that sig
 

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Firstly, it's not a form of hate speech.

Secondly, you've admitted that what is acceptable is determined by the people and Orwell would be proud.
 

captain morgan

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Firstly, it's not a form of hate speech.

As long as one person, according to you, believes it to be offensive, then it qualifies

Secondly, you've admitted that what is acceptable is determined by the people and Orwell would be proud.

You still shy away from qualifying your position by defining who (group, individual, Committee, etc) decides what is deemed as fair.

Without that detail, you have no force in the comments you make
 

mentalfloss

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No, one person being offended definitely doesn't qualify as hate speech.

And I already qualified that citizens determine what is acceptable.
 

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Conservatives already tried it with their Barbaric Hotline.

Didn't quite work out for them.

I'm sure that clamping down on Nazi rallies would be fairly uncontroversial.
 

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If it is part of a platform and everyone votes for it, that would be a start.
 

Cannuck

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So rights should be set by government policy and not the Constitution?

Do you feel the same way about every right?
 

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So rights should be set by government policy and not the Constitution?

Do you feel the same way about every right?


You can easily make policy that's not unconstitutional.

I mean, unless your Harper, but that's besides the point.