It's time to bring the death penalty back!

JLM

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And just where did you read that, JLM? New England is just about the most liberal part of USA. New England does include Massachusetts, one of the most liberal states in USA.

I'll concede on one point, New Englanders do vote Democrat, but I'm pretty sure they are basically conservative in the way they think and live their lives. I believe it was you who said Democrats are more closely alligned with Conservatives than with Liberals.
 

Francis2004

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He must be a bleeding heart Liberal.

How do you know he is not a new hard core view conservative type judge that believes criminals should rot in jail instead of costing the judicial system more then having the easy fast way out then sitting in a cell locked up for a life time with no hope ?

If I was a criminal I certainly would not look forward to a lifetime in a cell.. I would gladly take an injection to quickly end both my dreadful life and what ever pitiful remorse I would have for the sin I committed..
 

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First off, the idea that living in prison is punishment...



People get use to living on the inside, everything being handed to them..

The real punishment is death.. a rope and planks.
http://www.theepochtimes.com/n2/images/stories/large/2009/11/03/cell.JPG
 

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That means you have no evidence. Well, it ain't happening. Canadian public opinion is heavily against death penalty, most MPs are against it (even many Conservative MPs oppose it) and courts will strike down any attempt at bringing it back.

Unless there is a solid evidence that it reduces crime, I don't see even the debate starting about death penalty.
Keeping repeat murderers in prison is a waste of taxpayer money which means that you SirJosephPorter are in favour of paying higher taxes.

They can never be relased into the general population because they will kill again
 

SirJosephPorter

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I'll concede on one point, New Englanders do vote Democrat, but I'm pretty sure they are basically conservative in the way they think and live their lives. I believe it was you who said Democrats are more closely alligned with Conservatives than with Liberals.

I said no such thing. Democrats aligned with liberals, Republicans with conservatives.
 

SirJosephPorter

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What amazes me most about the debate on the Death Penalty is that those is favour usually side on the being against Euthanasia for the terminally ill..

So let me understand..

Mercy for the basturds that did a crime and not let them sit and rot in jail, hence give them a quick out..

But penance for those who may have sat in Church, were great humans, lived a clean life and could possibly donate an organ and make then suffer as long and terrible as possible although there is no chance to save them.

Yup sounds right to me..

It is all based upon their interpretation of the Bible, Francis. According to their interpretation, Bible forbids abortion and euthanasia, but supports death penalty. The Bible (or their interpretation of the Bible) has the final say, end of argument.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Keeping repeat murderers in prison is a waste of taxpayer money which means that you SirJosephPorter are in favour of paying higher taxes.

They can never be relased into the general population because they will kill again

Study after study in USA has shown that it is more expensive to execute a criminal than to lock him up for life. Life without parole is the cheaper alternative.
 

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It is not cheaper to keep a person in jail for life rather than executing him. Supporting a person in a jail is expensive, it is not just food, board, but health costs as well as security. Death sentence, 3 appeals and it could be over no more expenses.
 

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Keeping repeat murderers in prison is a waste of taxpayer money which means that you SirJosephPorter are in favour of paying higher taxes.

They can never be relased into the general population because they will kill again

He's told us umpteen times he's rich, so I guess he has no trouble boarding them, if he could do it at his house it would save the rest of us some money. :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 

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Study after study in USA has shown that it is more expensive to execute a criminal than to lock him up for life. Life without parole is the cheaper alternative.

I think that is B.S. First of all it's not necessary to keep a prisoner in prison for very long before "deep sixing" them. It's only the lawyers that keep the operation in limbo for so long. Realistically speaking the guy could be sentenced to death two years to the day from being found guilty & then he and his lawyers know that that is what is going to transpire. (And don't tell me "it doesn't work that way", because where there is a will there is a way)
 

SirJosephPorter

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Do you want me to go back and find the posts? Give me the word and I can prove you're a liar.

Go ahead and find the post. To claim that conservatives align themselves with Democrats is an absurd statement on its face (they used to in the old days, in the South), I don't see me ever making such a statement.,
 

SirJosephPorter

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There ya go expect the inevitable defeat. New England to be more exact will go Democratic Conservative

It is inevitable, ironsides. Look at the history and you will see that the party out of power invariably makes big gains in the midterm election. In the first mid term, they typically gain 25 seats in the house, 3 to 5 seats in the Senate.

The second mid term is even worse for the party in power. Republicans got trounced in 2006, lost control of both the chambers. They also lost the control of the Senate in 1986, the second mid term of Reagan. Incidentally, Republicans lost around 25 house seats to Democrats during the first mid term of Reagan, in 1982.

Why should this time be any different? Republicans may well make gains in New England, especially if they nominate moderate Republicans.
 

JLM

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Go ahead and find the post. To claim that conservatives align themselves with Democrats is an absurd statement on its face (they used to in the old days, in the South), I don't see me ever making such a statement.,

OK, I'll refine it for you. YOu said that in the U.S. the Democrat are more closely alligned with our Conservative Party than with our Liberal Party.
 

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I think that is B.S. First of all it's not necessary to keep a prisoner in prison for very long before "deep sixing" them. It's only the lawyers that keep the operation in limbo for so long. Realistically speaking the guy could be sentenced to death two years to the day from being found guilty & then he and his lawyers know that that is what is going to transpire. (And don't tell me "it doesn't work that way", because where there is a will there is a way)

It hurts to say this, But SJP is correct on this point........you need to remember that the death penalty was judged to be "cruel and unusual punishment" back in the 60s, and was unconstitutional for over 10 years.....then the Supreme Court reversed itself....

That is significant because the borderline position of the question of capital punishment means that one can not execute until ALL avenues of appeal are exhausted.......and in the USA, that means up through several levels of court to the State Supreme Courts, and (failing that) through several levels of federal court to the US Supreme Court.......then appeal to the governor for clemency......

This process takes years, or decades, all those lawyers paid for by the taxpayer.....yes, it is cheaper to keep them in jail for life in the USA....much, much cheaper.