It's time to bring the death penalty back!

Colpy

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Hate to wreck my right-wing looney credentials, but crime in Canada is hardly "out of control". we live in an amazingly peaceful society

Yeah, it's funny how the mass media fuelled hysteria on crime make some people lose all perspective on things.

I keep telling people that the US have the death penalty and their crime rate is about 10 times ours. Obviously, it's not a deterrent.

Now I'm going to be seen as a contrarian, but it is simply not so that the USA has a higher crime rate than Canada. Actually, the rate of robberies, break-ins, and non-violent crime is less in the USA.

Edited to say..........Sorry, the worst murder rate is in Nunavut, with 13.5 per 100,000. NWT has ONLY 9.5 per 100,000. (2004) Canada wide rate was 2.0 per 100,000.

Even more interestingly, high murder rates in the USA are concentrated in inner cities. The highest murder rate in any state/province is in the Northwest Territories. If you walked the border out west between the USA and Canada, believe it or not, the murder rate is typically LOWER in the border state than in the Canadian province.
 

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DurkaDurka said:
Jon, since when was life in prison easy?

Last I checked, there were no basketball courts in the gas chambers. There's no color television attached to the electric chair. The hangman just places a hood over the condemned man, and says "no" to the free tattoos. There are no conjugal visits on the gallows. The guilotine isn't a cigarette lighter.

But most importantly, no one gets paroled from a lethal injection. Dead offenders aren't repeat offenders.

And don't forget the watt/inmate ratio. It's cheaper to powerup an electric chair for five minutes, than it is to power a prison cell for 30 or more years.

The mantra: Don't build more prisons, execute more inmates.
 

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shannon said:
Capital Punishment in this country is long overdue.

I would definitely reinstate it for convicted serial killers, no questions asked. First degree murder convictions would need to be looked at on a case by case basis, along with any recommendations by the jury.

Hear! Hear!
 

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missile said:
Please do not even consider bringing back the death penalty until long after all my crimes are discovered :oops:

Justice must be served. We have to stop playing games with the justice system and get busy administering justice as it were intended. No free rides for those who break the law. No free rides for those who engage in coverups. No free rides for those who conspire to commit or coverup. No exceptions for the wealthy and famous. No exceptions for the well-intentioned.
 

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If you are a christian, there's no way you can justify death penalty. If you are a christian, I am very curious to know about your logic.
 

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s_lone said:
If you are a christian, there's no way you can justify death penalty. If you are a christian, I am very curious to know about your logic.

My logic is simple: I am a victim of crime!

I have had to sit idly by and watch the perpetrators laugh at me. I have been condemned to the indigantion of having to face a broken and irresponsible justice system. My logic is derived from my having witnessed just how corrupt the system is.

When you're in my shoes, or the shoes of any person victimized by crime and the justice system, the death penalty becomes most attractive. So attractive in fact, that every other form of punishment pales in comparison.

When you are victimized by crime, and punished for seeking justice, when the justice system intended to protect you, works against you, you will understand my logic. I am sickened by the way our justice system persecutes the victims and celebrates the scum that commit the crimes. There is no punishment more fitting for these assholes, than death!
 

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Simpleton said:
s_lone said:
If you are a christian, there's no way you can justify death penalty. If you are a christian, I am very curious to know about your logic.

My logic is simple: I am a victim of crime!

I have had to sit idly by and watch the perpetrators laugh at me. I have been condemned to the indigantion of having to face a broken and irresponsible justice system. My logic is derived from my having witnessed just how corrupt the system is.

When you're in my shoes, or the shoes of any person victimized by crime and the justice system, the death penalty becomes most attractive. So attractive in fact, that every other form of punishment pales in comparison.

When you are victimized by crime, and punished for seeking justice, when the justice system intended to protect you, works against you, you will understand my logic. I am sickened by the way our justice system persecutes the victims and celebrates the scum that commit the crimes. There is no punishment more fitting for these assholes, than death!

Absolutely. We need to get back to a justice system where we're punishing the criminal, not the victim.

The way things are now, the criminal has more rights than us law abiding folks.
 

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I just wanted to make a comment about
life in prision isn't easy"
the fact is that life in prision really isn't that bad. There are tones of criminals out there that say prision time is nothing. They get books, tv basketball courts pools etc. I don't even have a pool.

I must agree with something LRG said in a previous thread. Prisons need to be used effectively. Give the prisoners an option. You can either A) sit in your cell and not come out and get no privledges at all. or b) you can take some kind of Trades course and learn a skill and get privledges. Not only does this help them come productive members of society you can also use these people to help keep the prisions up to code. Thus costing tax payers less money.
 

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Hey, Just thought I would take this opportunity to ask all of you who are obviously fed up with our "slap 'em on the wrist" justice philosophy, to visit www.housepetition.com and help us keep the pedophiles in jail!
 

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shannon said:
Capital Punishment in this country is long overdue.

I would definitely reinstate it for convicted serial killers, no questions asked. First degree murder convictions would need to be looked at on a case by case basis, along with any recommendations by the jury.

Then you would back my new fascist party?
 

Just the Facts

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Simpleton said:
Canada needs to bring back public hangings. A public execution is the only way to ensure that people get the picture.

I'll support that on one condition...if we execute an innocent person, you volunteer to go to the gallows on behalf of society.

Seriously though, the death penalty is only a deterrent to those for whom life in prison is a deterrent. Other than the revenge factor, the only thing we get out of capital punishment is the possibility of killing innocent people.
 

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DurkaDurka said:
I hardly trust our government with a budget, death penalty... no thanks.

Exactly. I oppose the death penalty not out of sympathy for killers, but the realization that our justice system is not only not flawless, but frighteningly flawed. I can't imagine anything worse than sitting on death row for something you didn't do.
 

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KellyF said:
Hey, Just thought I would take this opportunity to ask all of you who are obviously fed up with our "slap 'em on the wrist" justice philosophy, to visit www.housepetition.com and help us keep the pedophiles in jail!

Why keep them in jail? They're prime candidates for the death penalty. Pedophiles, corrupt police officers, corrupt elected officials, corrupt civil servants, serial killers, and Blackburn Radio executives and staff -- all prime candidates for the gallows, electric chairs, gas chambers, guilotines, and lethal injections.

nuff said.
 

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SaintLucifer said:
shannon said:
Capital Punishment in this country is long overdue.

I would definitely reinstate it for convicted serial killers, no questions asked. First degree murder convictions would need to be looked at on a case by case basis, along with any recommendations by the jury.

Then you would back my new fascist party?

You're a fan of Blackburn Radio Incorporated too? Damn! That brings their numbers up to nine! :lol: :lol: LAMAO :lol:
 

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Just the Facts said:
Simpleton said:
Canada needs to bring back public hangings. A public execution is the only way to ensure that people get the picture.

I'll support that on one condition...if we execute an innocent person, you volunteer to go to the gallows on behalf of society.

Seriously though, the death penalty is only a deterrent to those for whom life in prison is a deterrent. Other than the revenge factor, the only thing we get out of capital punishment is the possibility of killing innocent people.

Actually, my post was directed toward those corrupt bastards that knowingly condemn innocent folks. I was speaking of people like Monte Kwinter, Jim Knowles, etcetera.

But too answer your question, yeah, I would gladly go to the gallows. With the caveat that I was last in line behind the bastards listed above. :lol:
 

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Just the Facts said:
DurkaDurka said:
I hardly trust our government with a budget, death penalty... no thanks.

Exactly. I oppose the death penalty not out of sympathy for killers, but the realization that our justice system is not only not flawless, but frighteningly flawed. I can't imagine anything worse than sitting on death row for something you didn't do.

You mean people that are railroaded? Yeah, I would definitely be against that portion of the program. I'm more interested in putting the railroad engineers on death row. Actually, skip the death row experience, and send them straight from trial to the noose.
 

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Just the Facts said:
Simpleton said:
Canada needs to bring back public hangings. A public execution is the only way to ensure that people get the picture.

I'll support that on one condition...if we execute an innocent person, you volunteer to go to the gallows on behalf of society.

Seriously though, the death penalty is only a deterrent to those for whom life in prison is a deterrent. Other than the revenge factor, the only thing we get out of capital punishment is the possibility of killing innocent people.

You forgot the most important aspect of the death penalty. It brings justice to the victims family members.