It’s Official. Trump Just Withdrew the U.S. From the Paris Climate Agreement.

[Bar Sinister]

Ironically, it is Trump that is demonstrating leadership via not simply being one of the mindless simpering sheep that goes along with a program which has been fraught with graft and corruption for so many years.

In terms of the private interests, I don't blame them one bit considering that there are billions in direct gvt subsidies easy for the taking.

.... think Solyndra

Yeah - like no other energy business gets subsidies. Think oil and coal.

As for leadership, all I've noticed out of the Dumpster is the sort of leadership provided by a playground bully.

https://www.desmogblog.com/2016/11/24/taking-more-comprehensive-look-coal-subsidies

https://www.desmog.ca/2015/11/12/ca...ry-2-7-billion-every-year-where-does-money-go

So jumping down a toilet when there is NO fire because everyone else is,

that's leadership?

"The idea of taxing carbon isn’t new. Bill Clinton and Al Gore tried to pass a BTU tax in 1993. Its defeat helped usher in a Republican-controlled Congress for the first time in nearly 40 years. In 2009, Barack Obama proposed a cap-and-trade plan that was rejected by a Democratic-controlled Congress. The Democrats ended up losing the House in 2010. More recently, Hillary Clinton’s campaign policy team was reportedly considering a carbon tax."
Carbon Tax Kills Jobs, Raises Energy Prices | National Review

I guess he just isn't stupid

Like the other LOSERS who fell for this brain dead woojoo boogie man stuff

And nothing in your post contradicts my position that oil and coal are on the way out.

 

[captain morgan]

Yeah - like no other energy business gets subsidies. Think oil and coal.

Can't remember the last time that the Cdn Feds deposited $500 million in one company's corporate bank account (think Solyndra)... Then again, there is Bombardier but last I checked, they weren't mining coal or producing oil

As for leadership, all I've noticed out of the Dumpster is the sort of leadership provided by a playground bully.

You poor wee lamb... You ought to demand that tater tot provide a special safe place for snowflakes on the interwebs.

https://www.desmogblog.com/2016/11/24/taking-more-comprehensive-look-coal-subsidies

https://www.desmog.ca/2015/11/12/ca...ry-2-7-billion-every-year-where-does-money-go

Great, an ecotard lobbyist website that attempts (quite successfully with you) to interchange tax breaks with cash subsidies.

... Works on the weak minded I suppose (no offence)

And nothing in your post contradicts my position that oil and coal are on the way out.

The question is when. Even tater tot referenced decades or in 50 years.

 

[EagleSmack]

Nothing pretend about it. The Paris Accord was all about providing leadership in dealing with GW. The US has now given up that leadership, at least politically. However, as I have mentioned in other posts it really doesn't matter as private interests along with various US state and municipal governments are proceeding with green energy programs, ignoring the wishes of their own president.

So it wasn't about lowering the earth's temperature?

I doubt those states and cities are going to give a portion of their budgets to some climate fund.

 

[captain morgan]

Well, those States and cities will allocate a few dollars into advertising that someone else should do something about it.

 

[EagleSmack]

Well, those States and cities will allocate a few dollars into advertising that someone else should do something about it.

Or they need more money from the Feds to help battle climate change.

 

[captain morgan]

Or they need more money from the Feds to help battle climate change.

What they do in BC is simply add on a new eco-tax to raise as much cash as they need.

The tards absolutely love it.. You can tell by the number of ecotards by the proud conversations they have over saving Gaia whilst enjoy a latte at Starbucks

 

[petros]

7% PST and a carbon tax on $1.33L gasoline is how they make money.

 

[captain morgan]

Heard a news item a couple of weeks ago that the Greens and/or NDP wanted to help float a muni tax in YVR that sought to apply a 12% property tax on homes in the Lower mainland valued over $3 million.

Unbelievable

 

[petros]

The $3M homes are owned by old people who have been there all their lives.

 

[captain morgan]

Looks like the resale value will be hitting the skids pretty good

 

[petros]

Eating cabbage and rice in order to pay a mortgage is not happiness.

 

[DaSleeper]

Eating cabbage and rice in order to pay a mortgage is not happiness.

And cabbage increases flatulence and you get more greenhouse gas...:lol:

 

[petros]

Asian "Canadians" couldnt give a rat's ass about global warming from cabbage let alone hydrocarbon emissions.

 

[Murphy]

If there is a need to reduce emissions, private business will do it. They will do it because it is good for business, not because some politician tells them to start.

Time to start spanking some of these politicians.

 

[captain morgan]

The spanking really needs to be delivered to the willfully stupid that buy into the BS and lies told by the political class.

I say kick the shyte outta both groups

 

[Murphy]

I subscribe to the theory that people view the government as some benign organization, whose primary reason for existence is to look after everyone.

It never used to be that way, but for the good that governments at all levels have managed to provide, there is, IMO, an equal amount of damage, graft, and theft. It's difficult to find out exactly how much and how deep this runs. The government has created checks and balances to keep the average citizen out of their affairs.

"Trust me. I'm from the government."

 

[Bar Sinister]

Can't remember the last time that the Cdn Feds deposited $500 million in one company's corporate bank account (think Solyndra)... Then again, there is Bombardier but last I checked, they weren't mining coal or producing oil



You poor wee lamb... You ought to demand that tater tot provide a special safe place for snowflakes on the interwebs.


Great, an ecotard lobbyist website that attempts (quite successfully with you) to interchange tax breaks with cash subsidies.

... Works on the weak minded I suppose (no offence)

The question is when. Even tater tot referenced decades or in 50 years.

Sorry, CM, but none of your supposed answers refute anything I posted. The oil industry has been receiving subsidies since the time of John D. Rockefeller. I suggest you acquaint yourself with the history of the industry you champion. And your feeble attempt at wit indicates that you realize how weak your arguments are.

Exxon and Conoco Reiterate Support for Paris Climate Deal

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-paris-climate-deal-as-trump-weighs-pact-exit

 

[petros]

Do you know what a Capital Cost Allowance is?

Beside, they will be under 200 feet of water by 2013.

 

[captain morgan]

Sorry, CM, but none of your supposed answers refute anything I posted. The oil industry has been receiving subsidies since the time of John D. Rockefeller. I suggest you acquaint yourself with the history of the industry you champion. And your feeble attempt at wit indicates that you realize how weak your arguments are.

All those words and nothing really said.

No, I won't be working to prove a negative re; your statement(s).

As far as the history is concerned, we're talking today bud, not yesteryear

Do yourself a favour and take Petros' advice in educating yourself on those issues you elect to comment upon before you state your facts.

Exxon and Conoco Reiterate Support for Paris Climate Deal

Solyndra.

PS - Conocco and Exxon supporting something means nothing relative cash subsidies

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

The spanking really needs to be delivered to the willfully stupid that buy into the BS and lies told by the political class.

I say kick the shyte outta both groups

What are you waiting for?

I subscribe to the theory that people view the government as some benign organization, whose primary reason for existence is to look after everyone.

It never used to be that way, but for the good that governments at all levels have managed to provide, there is, IMO, an equal amount of damage, graft, and theft. It's difficult to find out exactly how much and how deep this runs. The government has created checks and balances to keep the average citizen out of their affairs.

"Trust me. I'm from the government."

What's your frame of reference for "it never used to be that way?" Are you proposing that if the good and harm governments do are equal, we'd be just as well off without a government?