It's official, Castro has resigned

[I think not]

Okay ... it took Castro fifty years to do all that bad stuff. How long did it take Dief to destroy the Canadian Aerospace industry? How long did it take Mulroney to trade Canadian industry to the USof A and replace good-paying jobs with futures with American ones without - at Walmart or McDonalds? How long did it take that same ass to realize he'd traded away a revenue, so he designed a tax on ALL Canadians to replace that which he gave away? How long did it take Mike Harris to make poverty and disability a crime in Ontario? How long did it take him to ruin our education, health care and public service sectors? How long did it take our very first Prime Minister (coincidentally, a Tory) to make attempts to give the Canadian Pacific Railway to the United States?

A Hell of a lot less than a half century!

Woof!

How long will it take you to understand the difference between a dictator and bad policies?

 

[lone wolf]

How long will it take you to understand the difference between a dictator and bad policies?

About as long as it will you to understand the difference between propaganda and reality.

Woof!

 

[I think not]

About as long as it will you to understand the difference between propaganda and reality.

Woof!

Propaganda? :lol:

Dude, you're socialist buddy organizations the world over have even condemned Castro's government. From the UN to Human Rights Watch. Are they ALL propaganada?

 

[lone wolf]

Propaganda? :lol:

Dude, you're socialist buddy organizations the world over have even condemned Castro's government. From the UN to Human Rights Watch. Are they ALL propaganada?

Dude - I am NOT a f*****g Turtle! Your rabid rightist buddies condemned Adolf Hitler's government. Does that mean that either one didn't do at least some good for their respective nations? Get with the program and don't be so quick to condemn everything about even the lousiest of human beings. That's the clearest indicator of a narrow mind. Hell, I even think Bush's work with AIDS in Africa is commendable - even though he's a warmonger.

 

[I think not]

Dude - I am NOT a f*****g Turtle! Your rabid rightist buddies condemned Adolf Hitler's government. Does that mean that either one didn't do at least some good for their respective nations? Get with the program and don't be so quick to condemn everything about even the lousiest of human beings. That's the clearest indicator of a narrow mind. Hell, I even think Bush's work with AIDS in Africa is commendable - even though he's a warmonger.

You've been calling me narrowminded ever since you set foot on this forum. Quite frankly, I don't give a flying phuck what you think of me. But you couldn't tell propaganda from reality if it bit you in the ass.

You're comparing a failed jet program in Canada with the reign of a 50 year dictator and you want to be taken seriously? :lol:

 

[lone wolf]

You've been calling me narrowminded ever since you set foot on this forum. Quite frankly, I don't give a flying phuck what you think of me. But you couldn't tell propaganda from reality if it bit you in the ass.

You're comparing a failed jet program in Canada with the reign of a 50 year dictator and you want to be taken seriously? :lol:

...and typically, when he who knows it all is confounded by that which he can't counter, he nit picks, manipulates that which is said and utilizes it out of context.

That's propaganda....

Woof!

 

[I think not]

...and typically, when he who knows it all is confounded by that which he can't counter, he nit picks, manipulates that which is said and utilizes it out of context.

That's propaganda....

Woof!

Or I just embarassed the hell out of you and this is the best you can come up with.

 

[karrie]

Frankly it sounds like few on either side have anything to contribute to this thread beyond the typical bashing that goes on.

Surprise me, prove me wrong.

 

[lone wolf]

Or I just embarassed the hell out of you and this is the best you can come up with.

Now you're just embarassing the hell out of yourself ... again.

Woof!

 

[I think not]

Sorry Karrie, but when someone compares 50 years of dictatorship with a failed jet program, there is little to reason with. But I'll shut up.

 

[karrie]

I get it ITN, I'm just grumpy.

 

[lone wolf]

There is no dispute that Castro was a dictator. Nobody can ever say he put his own interests over those of a Cuba his revolution liberated. Castro didn't even live in a palace with faucets of gold - as do some evangelists in a nation that worships money. Castro's policies weren't those of a people pleaser simply because he had nobody to please but Cuba. His greatest of policies kept Cuban wealth in Cuba. Maybe that's the one reason that nation ruled by money eyes an island to the south of Florida with so much suspicion. They dared to say NO!

Woof!

 

[gopher]

``I would not put Castro anywhere near the word important. A two-bit tinpot dictator is what he is.``


He's a lot better than dictator Suharto who killed one million of his countrymen with Republican party support.

Naturally, there wasn't one word of criticism from the radical right wingers on this forum re all that.

 

[lone wolf]

Left.... Right.... Left.... Right....
Put 'em up ... let's have a fight
Any fool can think by the numbers, awright?
But a real march starts with a left
...with a left
...with a left

Woof!

 

[Avro]

Fidel may have never been was it not for the U.S. backed goof Batista who did nothing for the poor and everything for American buisness and gangsters.

Fidel gave his people health care and good education that they couldn't prosper from.

 

[Toro]

Some thoughts on Castro

And in these the final days of the Fidel regime, we keep hearing the propaganda about Cuban achievements in health and living standards. But it´s like the old joke about how you end up with a small fortune - you just start with a big one. It´s not difficult to present literacy approaching the Spanish rates if you started out by having higher literacy than Spain. So I´ll just repeat what I have written before:

Before Castro, Cuba was as rich as Italy, and richer than Spain. Cuba has not merely lagged behind, it has actually grown poorer, and is now more than five times poorer than these countries. It used to be among the richest in Latin America, now it’s among the poorest.
Cubans had better access to food than all other Latin American countries except Argentina before Castro, but now they have worse access than almost all the others. Cubans are the only people in Latin America who have seen their intake of calories decrease since then. It is now better than in the 90s, but more than every tenth Cuban is chronically undernourished.
Cuba had lower infant mortality than all other Latin American countries before Castro, and lower than France, Italy and Japan. It is the only area where progress has continued since then, but it has been much slower than in other similar countries.
​

Here is a test of extreme leftists´ double standards: Do they mention the infant mortality statistics as an excuse for murder and dictatorship? In that case, do they think that Pinochet was better than Castro, since he reduced infant mortality in Chile more in 25 years than Castro has done in Cuba in almost 50 years?

http://www.johannorberg.net/?month=08&year=2006&page=displayblog

 

[lone wolf]

Might only be the ramblings of a leftist socialist whatever your label, but you don't suppose part of Cuba's economic decline had something to do with punishing embargoes by a spoiled brat rich kid who heard the word NO do you?

Woof!

 

[Avro]

No, I think is has more to do with the fact that extreme socialism like Fidel's Cuba is a complete failure.

 

[lone wolf]

No, I think is has more to do with the fact that extreme socialism like Fidel's Cuba is a complete failure.

So, if I were to cut you off from your bank account and threaten anyone who brings you bread, it would be your own fault you're poor and hungry? Don't get me wrong. I agree that extreme socialism would be a complete failure in a capital-based society - but it certainly didn't get a chance to thrive with blockades and trade embargoes. That's what drove Cuba into the Russian sphere of influence.

Woof!

 

[Toro]

So, if I were to cut you off from your bank account and threaten anyone who brings you bread, it would be your own fault you're poor and hungry? Don't get me wrong. I agree that extreme socialism would be a complete failure in a capital-based society - but it certainly didn't get a chance to thrive with blockades and trade embargoes. That's what drove Cuba into the Russian sphere of influence.

Woof!

So, in other words, America is bad and corporations are bad and our economy stinks because we can't trade with the bad American corporations.