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Wrong.
Israel is every bit as socialistic as is Cuba and its economy thrives --- naturally that is because it gets our tax dollars to subsidize its racist and tyrannical government in every way possible.
It's official, Castro has resigned
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Wrong.
Israel is every bit as socialistic as is Cuba and its economy thrives --- naturally that is because it gets our tax dollars to subsidize its racist and tyrannical government in every way possible.
In even more words pink ponies prefer to piddle prancing over purple grass.
From between which lines DO you draw these other words that amount to hands clasped tightly over ears and LA LA LA LA chanted loudly so you can't hear anything that might conflict with your comfort level?
In other words, socialism never really got a chance to prove itself because a pouting capitalist-ruled regime feared people might just get the idea there was a better way if it actually was allowed to work.
Woof!
``socialism never really got a chance to prove itself``
Socialism is an inherently sterile system. If you read Jack London's infamous letters to his protege Cloudesly johns [Summer, 1899], you would see socialism's real intended goals.
http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?book_id=1227
Very strongly recommended reading.
Socialism is an inherently sterile system. If you read Jack London's infamous letters to his protege Cloudesly johns [Summer, 1899], you would see socialism's real intended goals.
http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?book_id=1227
Very strongly recommended reading.
Really?
Have you put together that portfolio of my racist ramblings you keep accusing me of? I've been waiting to see you prove all your claims of me and yet, nada, zero, zip, zilch...still waiting I am.
I think I'll stick with the reality of the truth, as apposed to the reality your peddling.
Besides that, thought you said you weren't interested in what I had to say..? And yet here you are conversing with me on what I have to say. Damn you're inconsistent.
...and capitalists never run out of reasons why everyone should have one picking their pocket....
Woof!
You have nothing to say Bear!
You regurgitate the formula nonsense that you cling-to as the fanatical Christian clings to his Bible....
That's why you should stick to emoticons Bear.
You live in a Black and White world...there is no doubt in your mind about anything....there is no capacity to question.....
Emoticons are your best bet, not critical thought or focused attention....
You regurgitate the formula nonsense that you cling-to as the fanatical Christian clings to his Bible....
That's why you should stick to emoticons Bear.
You live in a Black and White world...there is no doubt in your mind about anything....there is no capacity to question.....
Emoticons are your best bet, not critical thought or focused attention....
About what Mikey? Castro? He was an archaic socialist dictator, with all the trappings one can muster for such a label. Much like yourself. I have no doubts in my mind that you would be as ruthless, morally bankrupt and corrupt, given the opportunity.
That coming from the epitome of the 'one trick ponies' is laughable at best. Sad, if you really think about it.
You should stick to long winded diatribes on the depressing disgust you have for the world then go and end it all. You have offered nothing new, no growth, no change, nothing, not an inch, since we first met, when you called me a commie. You still haven't got clue one what I am all about. Not that I haven't tried my best to clue you in.
Absolutely false. That's simple Mikey projection, that better describes the depression you suffer in, then anything to do with I.
You should try this one Mikey...
It suites you best.
Still waiting on the proof of your accusations Mikey. Stop deflecting and cough it up. Lest I consider you a complete ass. Oops, to late.
btw...Good to see you still care about what I think and say.
Fidel finally fades
With Castro gone, maybe the open wound of Cuba can heal
By MICHAEL COREN
Pierre Trudeau must be rolling in his grave. His good friend Fidel Castro has stepped down from power, handing the dictatorship over to his brother. There's democracy and people's choice forayou. Then again, that old charlatan Trudeau had a thing for authoritarian thugs the world over. Thank the Lord he wasn't prime minister in 1940.
Cuba is an open wound, bleeding away the integrity of Canada and any other country that refuses to condemn Havana's brutality, oppression and imperialism. The country is dominated by a cruel, hypocritical junta that has arrested, tortured and killed more people than most of Latin America's leaders combined.
But still Canadians visit, sing the praises of Castro and wear their Che Guevara T-shirts.
Guevara, by the way, was a middle-class medical doctor who became physically aroused when he watched people being butchered.
He personally murdered or had killed numerous ordinary, apolitical men and women simply because they had been denounced by Marxist officials.
He was a perverse, manic little man who would fulfil any rational definition of a war criminal.
Guevara also was a coward. He was killed after being found hiding behind a tree, urging his followers to fight to the death. He surrendered, begged for his life and told his captors that he was famous and worth more money alive than dead.
According to Castro, however, the potential dentist in a beret is a hero of the revolution. And what a revolution it has been. Castro opposed all of the Soviet Union's modern reforms, praised the show trials and gulags of the 1950s and condemned Premier Nikita Khrushchev for removing nuclear weapons from Cuba. World war and mass destruction were worth the price, Castro said, for the victory of communism.
On two separate occasions the United States offered the Cuban leader a new relationship that would have ended the political and economic embargo. Both times Castro not only rejected the offer but tried to provoke Washington, once shooting down an aircraft and killing even more innocent people.
He proposed the imprisonment of men with AIDS, built internment camps for political prisoners, rounded up hundreds of thousands of people merely for disagreeing with the government or holding a specific religion and banned almost all forms of free speech, movement and assembly.
He initiated a system of political oppression that has outlived Stalin, Hitler and Mao. Secret policemen abound, interfering busybodies on the street have the authority to condemn people to prison and any independent thought is seen as dangerous and threatening.
Cuban soldiers have been sent to fight and die all over the world on the orders of their leader and his sordid attempts at extending his power. In Africa uneducated, under-trained Cubans fell in enormous numbers, but also extended civil wars and thus caused the deaths of Africans, particularly in Angola and Mozambique.
Cubans have been forced to risk their lives in the open seas to escape Marxist persecution, and have then been libelled as criminals and gangsters by Castro and his fellow travellers in North America. Many of them did not survive the trip and drowned as martyrs to communist barbarism.
But it's barbarism in the sun, with a touch of the sexy and the exotic. Which is why Canadians vacation there and why fools like Trudeau so adored the place. Have faith. Liberation is not far off now. Then the real party on the beach begins.
With Castro gone, maybe the open wound of Cuba can heal
By MICHAEL COREN
Pierre Trudeau must be rolling in his grave. His good friend Fidel Castro has stepped down from power, handing the dictatorship over to his brother. There's democracy and people's choice forayou. Then again, that old charlatan Trudeau had a thing for authoritarian thugs the world over. Thank the Lord he wasn't prime minister in 1940.
Cuba is an open wound, bleeding away the integrity of Canada and any other country that refuses to condemn Havana's brutality, oppression and imperialism. The country is dominated by a cruel, hypocritical junta that has arrested, tortured and killed more people than most of Latin America's leaders combined.
But still Canadians visit, sing the praises of Castro and wear their Che Guevara T-shirts.
Guevara, by the way, was a middle-class medical doctor who became physically aroused when he watched people being butchered.
He personally murdered or had killed numerous ordinary, apolitical men and women simply because they had been denounced by Marxist officials.
He was a perverse, manic little man who would fulfil any rational definition of a war criminal.
Guevara also was a coward. He was killed after being found hiding behind a tree, urging his followers to fight to the death. He surrendered, begged for his life and told his captors that he was famous and worth more money alive than dead.
According to Castro, however, the potential dentist in a beret is a hero of the revolution. And what a revolution it has been. Castro opposed all of the Soviet Union's modern reforms, praised the show trials and gulags of the 1950s and condemned Premier Nikita Khrushchev for removing nuclear weapons from Cuba. World war and mass destruction were worth the price, Castro said, for the victory of communism.
On two separate occasions the United States offered the Cuban leader a new relationship that would have ended the political and economic embargo. Both times Castro not only rejected the offer but tried to provoke Washington, once shooting down an aircraft and killing even more innocent people.
He proposed the imprisonment of men with AIDS, built internment camps for political prisoners, rounded up hundreds of thousands of people merely for disagreeing with the government or holding a specific religion and banned almost all forms of free speech, movement and assembly.
He initiated a system of political oppression that has outlived Stalin, Hitler and Mao. Secret policemen abound, interfering busybodies on the street have the authority to condemn people to prison and any independent thought is seen as dangerous and threatening.
Cuban soldiers have been sent to fight and die all over the world on the orders of their leader and his sordid attempts at extending his power. In Africa uneducated, under-trained Cubans fell in enormous numbers, but also extended civil wars and thus caused the deaths of Africans, particularly in Angola and Mozambique.
Cubans have been forced to risk their lives in the open seas to escape Marxist persecution, and have then been libelled as criminals and gangsters by Castro and his fellow travellers in North America. Many of them did not survive the trip and drowned as martyrs to communist barbarism.
But it's barbarism in the sun, with a touch of the sexy and the exotic. Which is why Canadians vacation there and why fools like Trudeau so adored the place. Have faith. Liberation is not far off now. Then the real party on the beach begins.
"Liberation"...?
While no fan of Castro style Marxism....I'm no fan either of a system of government that alienates natives under the rubric of "too busy to get around to settling land claim questions".... a system of government that condones and encourages theft and fraud, since Enron Canadian Banks and "western style" economics have over the period of the last twenty decades cost the people of America and Canada far more than any other "ugent necessity" based on fact. Cuba is a nice target for disdain and contempt while forgetting about the plight of many other Canadians and Americans who've been made victims to the policies and actions of the "greed is good" philosophy of the "capitalist" west....
If you're going to try to put Cuba and Castro into perspective, then put it all in perspective if you have any sense of honesty of any kind.
While no fan of Castro style Marxism....I'm no fan either of a system of government that alienates natives under the rubric of "too busy to get around to settling land claim questions".... a system of government that condones and encourages theft and fraud, since Enron Canadian Banks and "western style" economics have over the period of the last twenty decades cost the people of America and Canada far more than any other "ugent necessity" based on fact. Cuba is a nice target for disdain and contempt while forgetting about the plight of many other Canadians and Americans who've been made victims to the policies and actions of the "greed is good" philosophy of the "capitalist" west....
If you're going to try to put Cuba and Castro into perspective, then put it all in perspective if you have any sense of honesty of any kind.
Agreed.
Again, agreed, as many here have. But you are also negating the fact that much of the injustice towards Natives, is antiquated and awaiting full address. Whereas, Castro and his regime, are operating in a contemporary world, under the hammer of an antiquated ideology, with no signs of any real or meaningful change.
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How could any sign of meaningful change ever be seen through the cloud of paranoia and deception that surrounded Cuba? As a war trophy, America exacted her vengeance on Spain. As greedy capitalists, United Fruit used the Cuban population as slaves - with far less care than Castro's own regime. Had there not been blockades and trade embargoes, Cuba's economy may have flourished. Castro's "iron hand" may have become a gentled nudge as the poison of years of greed washed away. We'll never know that, will we? Instead, Cuba had no choice but to turn to an outstretched Russian hand. Cuba became Russia's one-fingered salute to the "home of freedom" Is it really fair to punish a whole country for the "crimes" of its leader?
Woof!
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There isn't much deception or paranoia surrounding Cuba, that isn't readily dispatched by a lil digging. But there is a whole lot of justifiable disgust, based on some easily proven facts.
That's a pretty big 'what if'. If I had a million dollars...I'ld be nicer to people...are you following me here.
I think the prisons filled with dissenter's is proof enough, that all you need by in Cuba, to be smashed by the hammer, is the opposition.
Everyone has a choice. But even being a Russian ally, does not require you be a complete and utter oppressor. This goes hand in hand with Socialism, but that's another story.
Absolutely not, but if it's fair for some to paint the whole of the US...well you get my point.
Meow.
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Sorry, I wasn't dismissing that. I was actually agreeing with you. I have actually posted a couple pieces on the Dole, United fruit and so on. I am well aware of the meddling of these companies, their business practices and using of US military and intelligence communities to enact their policies in South America and beyond.
Likely very true...:lol:
I think the prisons filled with decenter's is proof enough, that all you need by in Cuba, to be smashed by the hammer, is the opposition.
Again, agreed. My favourite was the faux coup. Trucks with loud speakers, playing the sounds of planes and bombs and tanks and such. All very funny stuff. I think that was Ardenze (SP?)that was ousted by that. If I'm not mistaken.
Again, I was agreeing with you, I only added the caveat that even as a Russian dependent, one need not be an asshole. At least I don't think it's a prerequisite.
Again, can't argue with that. Then again, I've never said they were innocent.
