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Colpy

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You know, I was having second thoughts..........the folks on this forum are overwhelmingly NDP, and love to go on about how "scary" Stephen Harper is, but....

I don't hear much of that coming from the NDP.

Could it possibly be that Jack knows Harper and sees him as a political opponent, but not as "scary"?

Could it possibly be that "scary" is simply a Liberal ploy to not only hold Canadians to the corrupt (and VERY scary) Liberal Party, but to pull support from the NDP as well?

Could it be that by insisting on the "scary" label, the NDP supporters here are actually helping the Liberals?

Think about that for a moment.
 

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Actually, the NDP position on Harper is based on political expediency. I'm not revealing any great secrets here...at least not to anybody who watches the news.

The fact is that the NDP lost a whack of seats because of Harper being scary. He is scary...he's regressive and petty and cares more for the Republican vision of the US than he does about Canadians' vision of Canada.

Harper is also doomed to be ineffectual. It's clear that he can't win a majority and, as unlikely as Harper even managing a minority is, that makes him a lot less scary because he won't be able to get his legislation through.

Harper has gone from being truely scary to being a political joke.
 

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:lol: :lol: :lol: terrified lil girls. Is that the best you can come up with :? and here you been bragging about your "education"

I don't think we have to start another thread on the things steven harper has said, if you do a lil research here at the board, you will find that thread. Again "I" say that your party resists change, and they have no problem with inequality.

Uh huh..its not rocket science...I also go along with the thinking that hitler, and reagan had much in common :p right wing nutbars :p preach preach preach a return to idealized past :roll: :roll: both had no regard for equality either. You don't like what I say..tough merde :p Its a free country :wink:
 

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Peapod said:

"Uh huh..its not rocket science...I also go along with the thinking that hitler, and reagan had much in common right wing nutbars"
"You don't like what I say..tough merde Its a free country "

Hey, you can say whatever you like, I believe in free speech. Besides, when you say stuff as dumbass as the above, you discredit your entire side of the argument.

Please go on.....
 

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Well it was nice meeting Jack Layton today. Never got to talk to him much though. He has a firm handshake. He had all his candidates behind him while he was talking to press so I could not stand behind him and wave. Sorry Rev. I tried.

I like his policy of export tax on oil and gas. To recover some money we are owed. His drug policy was good too as Harpers law and order approach is not going to work. Just look at USA to see what a failure that is. We need treatment and help people who need help with their problems and find reasons why they become addicted in the first place and offer them help.
 

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Re: RE: It's Heeeeere

no1important said:
Well it was nice meeting Jack Layton today. Never got to talk to him much though. He has a firm handshake. He had all his candidates behind him while he was talking to press so I could not stand behind him and wave. Sorry Rev. I tried.

I like his policy of export tax on oil and gas. To recover some money we are owed. His drug policy was good too as Harpers law and order approach is not going to work. Just look at USA to see what a failure that is. We need treatment and help people who need help with their problems and find reasons why they become addicted in the first place and offer them help.

emphasis mine.... weren't you NDP types insisting that they wouldn't need to raise taxes to pay for all their spending?? That's obviously not the case - not that I'm surprised.
 

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MMMike said:
no1important said:
Well it was nice meeting Jack Layton today. Never got to talk to him much though. He has a firm handshake. He had all his candidates behind him while he was talking to press so I could not stand behind him and wave. Sorry Rev. I tried.

I like his policy of export tax on oil and gas. To recover some money we are owed. His drug policy was good too as Harpers law and order approach is not going to work. Just look at USA to see what a failure that is. We need treatment and help people who need help with their problems and find reasons why they become addicted in the first place and offer them help.

emphasis mine.... weren't you NDP types insisting that they wouldn't need to raise taxes to pay for all their spending?? That's obviously not the case - not that I'm surprised.

To asay nothing of the fact that an export tax on oil and gas would tear the country apart..........I like the idea, except that it targets Alberta, and Alberta already pays A LOT. ($3500 annually, per person)

Get Alberta to go along, and I'd make the USA wish they'd never heard the words "softwood lumber".
 

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It wouldn't cost Alberta anything...it's an export tax. Their oil and gas would still sell into the US market at the same low price that Ralphie screwed them with. The Americans would pay more for it and the feds would collect that money.

It's also not a tax in the way that MMMikey is painting it to be. It's a retaliatory trade measure. If the US isn't going to play fair within NAFTA, then we get to retaliate.

It also isn't just Alberta-centric. There is oil and natural gas in BC, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, and the Atlantic provinces. If I was Layton, I would have tossed electricity in there as something else that should have an export tax on it too. Canada sells a whack of electricity to the US.
 

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Even tough Libs are corrupt, the dollar and economy is booming and I do not think Harper would have us in such good shape. I still plan on voting NDP though, but in this era of "Gomery" it is important to realize the Libs have done a lot of good as well. They do lack behind on social programs like whats in the NDP playbook. I think a Lib minority with NDP holding balance will be good for us.

Dollar jumps to 14-year high

Teaser:

The Canadian dollar hit a 14-year high against its U.S. counterpart Monday on the growing expectation that the Bank of Canada will not only raise interest rates on Tuesday but send unmistakable signals that further rate hikes are to come.

The loonie was trading at 86.49 cents US at 2:25 p.m. EST, up 0.35 cents US. In earlier trading, it hit 86.57 cents US – territory it hasn't seen since January 1992.
Loonie at highest level since January 1992 (CP Photo)

Traders said last Friday's employment report was providing much of the fuel. It said almost 31,000 new jobs were created in November, exceeding expectations of a 20,000-job increase.

The economy is already operating at close to full capacity and economic growth is rising at a solid annual rate of 3.6 per cent. [/teaser]
 

I think not

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From no1's link:

CPC:

"Eliminate inter-provincial trade barriers in commerce, labour and capital mobility"

My question is....huh? 8O You have stricter trade barriers between provinces than you do with the US? Or am I not understanding something?
 

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My question is....huh? Shocked You have stricter trade barriers between provinces than you do with the US? Or am I not understanding something?

Yes, in some cases we do. We don't really understand it either, except that we've become so used to dealing with the legacy of Brian Mulroney's sell-out of the country that we just kind of accept it now.
 

Reverend Blair

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To protect the people in those provinces from the sometimes predatory actions of other provinces. The barriers exist for the same reason that all trade barriers do. They weren't a real problem until the FTA because Mulroney wanted to promote north-south trade over east-west trade. Harper and Martin both think that Mulroney's evil plan was just the cat's ass because they suck on the same corporate tit.
 

MMMike

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Reverend Blair said:
Harper and Martin both think that Mulroney's evil plan was just the cat's ass because they suck on the same corporate tit.

:lol: :lol: Rev, why don't you tell us what you really think?? :p
 

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Reverend Blair said:
My question is....huh? Shocked You have stricter trade barriers between provinces than you do with the US? Or am I not understanding something?

Yes, in some cases we do. We don't really understand it either, except that we've become so used to dealing with the legacy of Brian Mulroney's sell-out of the country that we just kind of accept it now.

Okay,

I'm in a ranting mood tonight, so here we go.....trade barriers within a nation make it not a nation, but a bunch of squabling, greedy, over-sensitive dickheads with nothing in their hearts but greed.

As for the NAFTA sell-out, why do you think Canada is so prosperous?

I am no fan of Lyin' Brian, but the truth is that the Liberals have enjoyed the benefits of a good economic system created by Mulroney.

It simply can't be denied.

The stats are there. We are rich. Thanks to PC policies.
 

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I am no fan of Lyin' Brian, but the truth is that the Liberals have enjoyed the benefits of a good economic system created by Mulroney.

It simply can't be denied.

I do not know whether a :roll: or
is in order for that.
 

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Liberals' McLellan attacks NRA's intervention

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TORONTO — Deputy Prime Minister Anne McLellan is condemning what she calls the intervention of the American National Rifle Association in the federal election campaign.

"The NRA and their U.S.-style, big-money gun lobby efforts are not welcome here,'' McLellan said Monday.[/teaser]

The NRA should stay on their own side of the border. We have enough wacko's in Canada as it is. Fortunatly we do not hav ethe right to bear arms. That is one of the reasons our crime rate is 1/8th of America's per capita.