It's Climate Change I tell'ya!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!

Ron in Regina

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Some of the attendees flights were stuck in Munich for two days thanks to record snow
Thus the change from "global warming" to "climate change". If your narrative is proved wrong repeatedly you have to change the narrative a bit or at least it's title.
Who would’a thunk it would snow in Germany in December. That’s new?
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Ron in Regina

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Russia did it.
Don’t even joke about that. Trudeau is hungry for revenue sources that don’t actually include Canadian natural resources, productivity, GDP, etc…& Justin will tax their ass and damn the torpedoes as long as the consequences do not come to fruition until the fall of 2025!!!
 

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Don’t even joke about that. Trudeau is hungry for revenue sources that don’t actually include Canadian natural resources, productivity, GDP, etc…& Justin will tax their ass and damn the torpedoes as long as the consequences do not come to fruition until the fall of 2025!!!
Its from cosmic rays. Both solar and deep in the Milky Way which can send our planet into a deep freeze Take the space weather cisinformation and run. The truth will set you free.

Galactic cosmic rays consist of charged particles that travel through space at nearly the speed of light. These particles bombard the Earth's atmosphere and have been shown to influence rainfall on Earth.Dec 17, 2014
https://www.nature.com › articles
Galactic cosmic rays affect rainfall and temperature - Nature
 

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Its from cosmic rays. Both solar and deep in the Milky Way which can send our planet into a deep freeze Take the space weather cisinformation and run. The truth will set you free.

Galactic cosmic rays consist of charged particles that travel through space at nearly the speed of light. These particles bombard the Earth's atmosphere and have been shown to influence rainfall on Earth.Dec 17, 2014
https://www.nature.com › articles
Galactic cosmic rays affect rainfall and temperature - Nature
Which might explain this:


Those same cosmic rays cause cancer inducing DNA mutations.
 

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British research ship crosses paths with world’s largest iceberg as it drifts out of Antarctica
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Sylvia Hui
Published Dec 04, 2023 • 2 minute read
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In this handout photo provided by the British Antarctic Survey, a view of the A23a iceberg is seen from the RRS Sir David Attenborough, Antarctica, Friday, Dec. 1, 2023. PHOTO BY ANDREW MEIJERS /British Antarctic Survey via AP
LONDON (AP) — Britain’s polar research ship has crossed paths with the largest iceberg in the world — a “lucky” encounter that enabled scientists to collect seawater samples around the colossal berg as it drifts out of Antarctic waters, the British Antarctic Survey said Monday.


The RRS Sir David Attenborough, which is on its way to Antarctica for its first scientific mission, passed the mega iceberg known as the A23a on Friday near the tip of the Antarctic Peninsula.


The iceberg — equivalent to three times the size of New York City and more than twice the size of Greater London — had been grounded for more than three decades in the Weddell Sea after it split from the Antarctic’s Filchner Ice Shelf in 1986.

It began drifting in recent months, and has now moved into the Southern Ocean, helped by wind and ocean currents. Scientists say it is now likely to be swept along into “iceberg alley” — a common route for icebergs to float toward the sub-Antarctic island of South Georgia.

“It is incredibly lucky that the iceberg’s route out of the Weddell Sea sat directly across our planned path, and that we had the right team aboard to take advantage of this opportunity,” said Andrew Meijers, chief scientist aboard the research ship.


“We’re fortunate that navigating A23a hasn’t had an impact on the tight timings for our science mission, and it is amazing to see this huge berg in person — it stretches as far as the eye can see,” he added.

Britain Antarctica Iceberg
In this handout photo provided by the British Antarctic Survey, the RRS Sir David Attenborough in front of A23a iceberg in Antarctica, Friday, Dec. 1, 2023. Britain’s polar research ship has crossed paths with the largest iceberg in the world in a “lucky” encounter that enabled scientists to collect seawater samples around the colossal berg as it drifts out of Antarctic waters. The British Antarctic Survey said Monday, Dec. 4 that the RRS Sir David Attenborough passed the mega iceberg, known as the A23a, on Friday near the tip of the Antarctic Peninsula. (T.Gossman, M.Gascoyne, C.Grey/British Antarctic Survey via AP)
Laura Taylor, a scientist working on the ship, said the team took samples of ocean surface waters around the iceberg’s route to help determine what life could form around it and how the iceberg and others like it impact carbon in the ocean.

“We know that these giant icebergs can provide nutrients to the waters they pass through, creating thriving ecosystems in otherwise less productive areas. What we don’t know is what difference particular icebergs, their scale, and their origins can make to that process,” she said.

The RRS Sir David Attenborough, named after the British naturalist, is on a 10-day science trip that’s part of a 9-million-pound ($11.3 million) project to investigate how Antarctic ecosystems and sea ice drive global ocean cycles of carbon and nutrients.

The British Antarctic Survey said its findings will help improve understanding of how climate change is affecting the Southern Ocean and the organisms that live there.
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Ron in Regina

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If you believe all those elitists are getting on their private jets to save the planet, you're sadly mistaken. They are there to exploit it for every dollar they can get.
Big Climate was born out of that wider ecological movement, specifically at the 1992 “Earth summit” in Rio. The current Dubai “COP28” conference is the 28th “conference of the parties” that grew out of Rio 1992. Big Climate grew ever bigger, so much so that 70,000 delegates landed in Dubai this year. Along the way were milestones, such as Kyoto 1997 and Paris 2015, in which Big Climate managed to get wide agreement on re-ordering the global economy in principle, if not practice.

This year, though, one gets the sense that Big Climate has become wrapped in too many contradictions, capped off with a farcical conference in the petro-state’s air-conditioned desert. The incongruity of it all was nicely highlighted by the brouhaha that erupted when the Emirati conference chairman blithely declared that there was no real scientific basis to phase out fossil fuels.

Consider the Germans, Big Climate’s biggest booster in the heart of Europe. This year marked the end of German nuclear power, with the last reactors closed. Germany has now moved to a higher carbon future, burning coal and natural gas.

That proved a bit tricky when at war with Russia in Ukraine, so Germany turned to Canada for natural gas supplies. Trudeau refused to sell Germans our natural gas, directing them instead to Qatar. That strikes most folks as absurd.

Meanwhile, President Joe Biden, who began his administration with an ostentatious cancellation of the Keystone XL pipeline, lest Canadian resources pollute the American energy grid, has now decided to increase imports of Venezuelan oil and gas. That, too, is absurd.

Then there are billions upon billions of dollars — with Canada and the EU scrambling to match American subsidies — being lavished upon electric battery manufacturers, making “green jobs” a giant tax-funded boondoggle. That the great climate villain in the auto sector, Volkswagen, is a beneficiary of such largesse only makes the absurdity more galling.

Against all that, Trudeau’s decision to compromise his climate agenda to save a few Atlantic ridings is a rather low-voltage issue. Yet it shows that Big Climate is losing its power.

The end of Big Climate may be good for the climate. Backing away from grandiose and absurd policies shifts attention toward more practical and reasonable measures that will garner wider public support.
 

Ron in Regina

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Big Climate was born out of that wider ecological movement, specifically at the 1992 “Earth summit” in Rio. The current Dubai “COP28” conference is the 28th “conference of the parties” that grew out of Rio 1992. Big Climate grew ever bigger, so much so that 70,000 delegates landed in Dubai this year.
Guilbeault and his camp got off to a bad start at Dubai when it was announced that a record 70,000 attendees would fly in for the conference.
If you believe all those elitists are getting on their private jets to save the planet, you're sadly mistaken. They are there to exploit it for every dollar they can get.
It was yet another example of the “emissions reductions for thee, but not for me” attitude of the climate alarmist elite.
The end of Big Climate may be good for the climate. Backing away from grandiose and absurd policies shifts attention toward more practical and reasonable measures that will garner wider public support.
Their desire to force policy on the rest of us was impeded at Dubai by climate realists, who are finally armed with sound science and a host of reasonable policy options.

Credible climate scientists such as Judith Curryand Richard Lindzen are saying alarmist scientists have greatly exaggerated the threat of global warming, a fact now accepted even by multibillionaire Bill Gates, the world’s largest private funder of climate change research, who recently shot down the prevailing narrative, saying: “There’s a lot of climate exaggeration. The climate is not the end of the planet. So the planet is going to be fine.”

The most forceful clobbering came from Sultan Al Jaber, president of the COP28 conference, who made it clear that a rapid phaseout of fossil fuels would be a disaster for all.
He's done all type of backtracking. He is also the CEO of the state's oil company so no conflict of interest,
Al Jaber is also the chief executive of the United Arab Emirates’ state oil company, Adnoc. He made his comments after Mary Robinson, former UN special envoy for climate change, attempted to pressure him: “We’re in an absolute crisis that is hurting women and children more than anyone,” Robinson said, “and it’s because we have not yet committed to phasing out fossil fuel.”
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Al Jaber shot down such a notion. “I accepted to come to this meeting to have a sober and mature conversation,” he said. “I’m not in any way signing up to any discussion that is alarmist … Please help me, show me the road map for a phaseout of fossil fuel that will allow for sustainable socioeconomic development, unless you want to take the world back into caves.”
Al Jaber asked for the finger-pointing to stop and for solutions to be presented.
Anything worth doing is worth overdoing. Moderation is for monks.

Easy answer. The market. People need more electrical power, companies build out generation and distribution capacity, people give them money for the power.

How'd "planning" work for the Soviet Union?
It turns out his country, the UAE, is at the forefront of the single best solution, with plans to build four nuclear reactors, the most effective way to generate abundant, reliable, zero-emission power.

To their credit, the Trudeau Liberals also now embrace nuclear power, even as many alarmists, including groups like Greenpeace and Guilbeault himself, have fiercely opposed nuclear.
Canada’s geographical location and size and climate have a huge relevance to its ability to functionally thrive vs it’s pollution and emissions portion of the global whole when it comes to cutting off our noses to spite our faces.
It’s true, I noted something positive about Trudeau above. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, but you might want to mark this one on your calendars…
Canada’s population, then using that as a comparison on a Per Capita basis measurement against India (bet you thought I was gonna say China) has very little relevance to its pollution emissions total.
Fossil fuels are here for now and for decades to come, a hard fact that batters alarmist schemes. If Guilbeault and his gang keep failing to recognize this reality, the clobberings will continue.
I’m interested in continuing to afford to get to & from work, so I can continue to afford to pay my ever increasing taxes, so I can continue to afford to take the balance to pay my ever increasing utility bills that are carbon taxed, so I can then take the balance off that to purchase luxuries like ever increasingly costly groceries, so I can repeat that month after month, so I can eventually afford to retire from this one day.
Alberta (& Saskatchewan) industry will continue to responsibly cut emissions, but not on Guilbeault’s radical and unconstitutional 2030 timeline, Smith said from Dubai. “We are not going to allow our production, which we own, to be shut in by federal edicts. These are not their jurisdictions.”

Ironically, Saskatchewan & Alberta also happen to be Canada’s only two landlocked provinces or territories. Interesting trivia fact that’ll be attempted to be used to punish them for their stance.
I’m not saying we ALL can’t do better, but we can do it in a way that isn’t creating hardship and poverty, using technology that actually exists or new technologies once they exist instead of unrealistic timelines based upon technologies that might or might not exist before the arbitrary deadline’s currently imposed.
Guilbeault has been in something of a frenzy in Dubai, as if he were a mad general in a losing war, furiously giving orders that his failing faction will never carry out, including several new emissions caps, one of them a whopper announced on Thursday. The Liberals now demand roughly a one-third reduction of oil and gas sector emissions below 2019 levels by 2030.
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We currently can replace coal fired electrically generated power with Natural Gas and Nuclear for baseload generation using Wind & Hydro (where applicable) to supplement it, and when Nuclear Fusion or Dilithium Crystals or whatever comes down the pipe actually exists we can plug them into the equation at that point.
A record number of countries, including the UAE and Canada, signed on at COP28 to triple nuclear power by 2050. But this build-out will take decades, which is partly why countries like China, Saudi Arabia and Russia agree with Al Jaber and reject a fossil fuel phaseout.

Bottom line: they refuse to trash their economies and throw hundreds of millions of their citizens into poverty.
 

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November is sixth straight month to set heat record, scientists say
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Seth Borenstein
Published Dec 06, 2023 • 2 minute read

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — For the sixth month in a row, Earth set a new monthly record for heat, and also added the hottest autumn to the litany of record-breaking heat this year, the European climate agency calculated.


And with only one month left, 2023 is on the way to smashing the record for hottest year.


November was nearly a third of a degree Celsius (0.57 degrees Fahrenheit) hotter than the previous hottest November, the European Space Agency’s Copernicus Climate Change Service announced early Wednesday. November was 1.75 degrees Celsius (3.15 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than pre-industrial times, tying October and behind September, for the hottest above average for any month, the scientists said.

“The last half year has truly been shocking,” said Copernicus Deputy Director Samantha Burgess. “Scientists are running out of adjectives to describe this.”

November averaged 14.22 degrees Celsius (57.6 degrees Fahrenheit), which is 0.85 degrees Celsius (1.5 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than the average the last 30 years. Two days during the month were 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than pre-industrial times, something that hadn’t happened before, according to Burgess.


So far this year is 1.46 degrees Celsius (2.6 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than pre-industrial times, about a seventh of a degree warmer than the previous warmest year of 2016, Copernicus scientists calculated. That’s very close to the international threshold the world set for climate change.

The 2015 Paris climate agreement set a goal of limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial times over the long term and failing that at least 2 degrees (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit). Diplomats, scientists, activists and others meeting at the United Nations climate conference in Dubai for nearly two weeks are trying to find ways to limit warming to those levels, but the planet isn’t cooperating.


Scientists calculate with the promises countries around the world have made and the actions they have taken, Earth is on track to warm 2.7 to 2.9 degrees Celsius (4.9 to 5.2 degrees) above pre-industrial times.

The northern autumn is also the hottest fall the world has had on record, Copernicus calculated.

Copernicus records go back to 1940. United States government calculated records go back to 1850. Scientists using proxies such as ice cores, tree rings and corals have said this is the warmest decade Earth has seen in about 125,000 years, dating back before human civilization. And the last several months have been the hottest of the last decade.

Scientists say there are two driving forces behind the six straight record hottest months in a row. One is human-caused climate change from the burning of coal, oil and gas. That’s like an escalator. But the natural El Nino-La Nina cycle is like jumping up or down on that escalator.

The world is in a potent El Nino, which is a temporary warming of parts of the central Pacific that changes weather worldwide, and that adds to global temperatures already spiked by climate change.

It’s only going to get warmer as long as the world keeps pouring greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, Burgess said. And she said that means “catastrophic floods, fires, heat waves, droughts will continue.”

“2023 is very likely to be a cool year in the future unless we do something about our dependence on fossil fuels,” Burgess said.
 

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November is sixth straight month to set heat record, scientists say
Author of the article:Associated Press
Associated Press
Seth Borenstein
Published Dec 06, 2023 • 2 minute read

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) — For the sixth month in a row, Earth set a new monthly record for heat, and also added the hottest autumn to the litany of record-breaking heat this year, the European climate agency calculated.


And with only one month left, 2023 is on the way to smashing the record for hottest year.


November was nearly a third of a degree Celsius (0.57 degrees Fahrenheit) hotter than the previous hottest November, the European Space Agency’s Copernicus Climate Change Service announced early Wednesday. November was 1.75 degrees Celsius (3.15 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than pre-industrial times, tying October and behind September, for the hottest above average for any month, the scientists said.

“The last half year has truly been shocking,” said Copernicus Deputy Director Samantha Burgess. “Scientists are running out of adjectives to describe this.”

November averaged 14.22 degrees Celsius (57.6 degrees Fahrenheit), which is 0.85 degrees Celsius (1.5 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than the average the last 30 years. Two days during the month were 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than pre-industrial times, something that hadn’t happened before, according to Burgess.


So far this year is 1.46 degrees Celsius (2.6 degrees Fahrenheit) warmer than pre-industrial times, about a seventh of a degree warmer than the previous warmest year of 2016, Copernicus scientists calculated. That’s very close to the international threshold the world set for climate change.

The 2015 Paris climate agreement set a goal of limiting global warming to 1.5 degrees (2.7 degrees Fahrenheit) above pre-industrial times over the long term and failing that at least 2 degrees (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit). Diplomats, scientists, activists and others meeting at the United Nations climate conference in Dubai for nearly two weeks are trying to find ways to limit warming to those levels, but the planet isn’t cooperating.


Scientists calculate with the promises countries around the world have made and the actions they have taken, Earth is on track to warm 2.7 to 2.9 degrees Celsius (4.9 to 5.2 degrees) above pre-industrial times.

The northern autumn is also the hottest fall the world has had on record, Copernicus calculated.

Copernicus records go back to 1940. United States government calculated records go back to 1850. Scientists using proxies such as ice cores, tree rings and corals have said this is the warmest decade Earth has seen in about 125,000 years, dating back before human civilization. And the last several months have been the hottest of the last decade.

Scientists say there are two driving forces behind the six straight record hottest months in a row. One is human-caused climate change from the burning of coal, oil and gas. That’s like an escalator. But the natural El Nino-La Nina cycle is like jumping up or down on that escalator.

The world is in a potent El Nino, which is a temporary warming of parts of the central Pacific that changes weather worldwide, and that adds to global temperatures already spiked by climate change.

It’s only going to get warmer as long as the world keeps pouring greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, Burgess said. And she said that means “catastrophic floods, fires, heat waves, droughts will continue.”

“2023 is very likely to be a cool year in the future unless we do something about our dependence on fossil fuels,” Burgess said.
Which record? The one based in reality where the 1930 and 1940s were hottest or the record that starts in 1952 that all the bullshit is based on?