It's Climate Change I tell'ya!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!

Taxslave2

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Good point. People NEVER talked about the weather until True Dope launched his Nefarious Plot!
The weather, yes. Fake climate change, no. The whole climate change scam is based on fake and manipulated data. The 5 feet of snow we got in 2007 was weather, but the three hot days in may are climate change.
 

Ron in Regina

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Every time Parliamentary Budget Officer Yves Giroux points out there are costs to Canadians because of the Trudeau government’s climate action plan, Federal Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault, among other Liberals, blows a gasket.

His latest eruption is over Giroux’s report released Friday about the cost of the government’s clean fuel regulations.

Guilbeault, called it “unbalanced,” which is odd, since Giroux’s report says many of the same things Guilbeault’s ministry said in June 2022, in its impact analysis of the regulations.

They take effect in July, aimed at lowering the carbon intensity of gasoline and diesel fuel. Guilbeault criticized Giroux for failing “to recognize the cost of climate change to Canadians, like extreme weather.”

Except there won’t be savings to Canadians from milder weather by lowering Canada’s emissions —and certainly not by 2030 — because, as Giroux noted, “Canada’s own emissions are not large enough to materially impact climate change and therefore their reduction would not materially affect the Canadian economy … Canada’s primary means of limiting the economic costs of climate change are through participation in a globally coordinated emissions reduction regime.”

On that point, Guilbeault’s ministry said the same thing a year ago, noting, “the only way to effectively address climate change is through global action.”

Guilbeault complained Giroux didn’t factor in the potential cost savings to Canadians from future technological improvements to reduce greenhouse gas emissions.

But to expect significant savings by 2030 from technologies not yet invented is a fantasy and, as Giroux’s noted, while “numerous past technological changes have transformed economies — and societies — because they were so much cheaper than their predecessors, it is not predictable.” Oh well…

(Environment Minister Steven Guilbeault has now confirmed most Canadian families will pay more in carbon taxes than they get back in climate action incentive payments, despite everyone from Guilbeault to Trudeau repeatedly and explicitly stating eight out of 10 families are or will be better off.)
People usually point out that it’s only pennies per litre on the fuel at the pumps, but my biggest concern is the cost to heat my home & the cost of food…but whatever.
 

Taxslave2

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So how is it a tax on carbon when certain income groups get a rebate that is not related to how much carbon tax they have actually paid, but to their income? It woks much like your garden variety wealth redistribution schemes. Is it only the higher income bracket’s carbon that pollutes?
 

Dixie Cup

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The weather, yes. Fake climate change, no. The whole climate change scam is based on fake and manipulated data. The 5 feet of snow we got in 2007 was weather, but the three hot days in may are climate change.
How do people not know that climate has ALWAYS changed. I mean seriously. And somehow this is now a dangerous thing? We've adapted over 1000's of years.

The person who thought of this farce was a genius, to use this as a control factor over everyone's lives. That's not to say we shouldn't do anything about pollution, or about having clean water & soil. But no one can control the weather no matter how much money is wasted trying to, so it's all B.S.
 
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Ron in Regina

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How do people not know that climate has ALWAYS changed. I mean seriously. And somehow this is now a dangerous thing? We've adapted over 1000's of years.
Anthropomorphic. That’s the term to justify it, which has been dropped from the conversation. What is normal changing & evolving climactic change, or cyclical change on a scale beyond a human life span…(?)…vs how much has man actually contributed to…which is difficult to answer so the “man made” term part was dropped from the title.
The person who thought of this farce was a genius, to use this as a control factor over everyone's lives. That's not to say we shouldn't do anything about pollution, or about having clean water & soil. But no one can control the weather no matter how much money is wasted trying to, so it's all B.S.
Canada is about 1% of the global contribution to whatever they’re trying to finger point as the contributing factors to global/warming/cooling/ changing that can be blamed on man.

We (Canadians) could cease to exist completely today…& cease all ‘emissions’ with that…& make zero notable difference. Yet we are self-flagellating ourselves financially while hamstringing our economy to the Green Gods of irrelevance. What are the BRIC nations doing about this (?) and what %’age of the population of the planet do they account for?
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Population of 3,157,441,470 (2022 estimate) & loom large in any consideration of the world’s prospects for averting climate disaster. They are not the poorest economies on the planet, but their per capita GDP is 20% of European Union levels and only 13% of G7 levels. This is adding in South Africa as they’re now known as BRICS. These five countries account for more than half the total emissions of the 43 countries in the G20.

I could be wrong, but I don’t recall Greta saying anything about China or Russia or India or Brazil or South Africa for some reason. Weird that, eh?
 

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Hurricane forecast depends on outcome of El Nino versus global warming
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published May 25, 2023 • 1 minute read

HALIFAX — The Canadian Hurricane Centre says forecasting the ferocity of hurricanes off Canada’s East Coast this year is difficult because of competing factors in the global climate.


Meteorologist Bob Robichaud says much depends on whether this season’s El Nino — characterized by above-average water temperatures over the Pacific Ocean — has its usual calming impact on the Atlantic waters.


Robichaud says that in El Nino years, high-altitude winds that blow toward the Atlantic Ocean have decreased the number of storms in waters off Canada’s eastern shores.

However, the forecaster for the federal agency says it’s not known yet whether the impact of an El Nino in 2023 will be countered by the human-caused warming of the Atlantic, which has increased the frequency and intensity of storms.

Earlier today, the U.S.-based National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicted one to four major storms this hurricane season, where winds could be stronger than 177 kilometres per hour.

Robichaud says the agency’s number is in line with historical averages of three major storms during the June 1 to Nov. 30 season in the Atlantic.

But he adds that it takes just one storm to create havoc, reminding that hurricane Fiona took three lives, destroyed houses, and knocked out power to more than 600,000 homes and businesses when it made landfall in the Atlantic region Sept. 24, 2022.
 
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Hurricane forecast depends on outcome of El Nino versus global warming
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published May 25, 2023 • 1 minute read

HALIFAX — The Canadian Hurricane Centre says forecasting the ferocity of hurricanes off Canada’s East Coast this year is difficult because of competing factors in the global climate.


Meteorologist Bob Robichaud says much depends on whether this season’s El Nino — characterized by above-average water temperatures over the Pacific Ocean — has its usual calming impact on the Atlantic waters.


Robichaud says that in El Nino years, high-altitude winds that blow toward the Atlantic Ocean have decreased the number of storms in waters off Canada’s eastern shores.

However, the forecaster for the federal agency says it’s not known yet whether the impact of an El Nino in 2023 will be countered by the human-caused warming of the Atlantic, which has increased the frequency and intensity of storms.

Earlier today, the U.S.-based National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicted one to four major storms this hurricane season, where winds could be stronger than 177 kilometres per hour.

Robichaud says the agency’s number is in line with historical averages of three major storms during the June 1 to Nov. 30 season in the Atlantic.

But he adds that it takes just one storm to create havoc, reminding that hurricane Fiona took three lives, destroyed houses, and knocked out power to more than 600,000 homes and businesses when it made landfall in the Atlantic region Sept. 24, 2022.
Which article is true? Above or below?

(CNN)Before the era of satellites, it was next to impossible to know whether a hurricane occurred out in the open ocean unless a ship was unlucky enough to run into it. And scientists for decades have been trying to piece together a historical record to better understand how the climate crisis is changing these storms.

But researchers said Monday they have constructed a clearer picture than ever, and found that the frequency of the planet's most devastating storms has decreased over the past century.

The study, published in the journal Nature Climate Change, found that the annual number of global hurricanes, typhoons and tropical storms — or tropical cyclones, more generally — declined by roughly 13% as the planet warmed during the 20th century
 

Dixie Cup

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Hurricane forecast depends on outcome of El Nino versus global warming
Author of the article:Canadian Press
Canadian Press
Published May 25, 2023 • 1 minute read

HALIFAX — The Canadian Hurricane Centre says forecasting the ferocity of hurricanes off Canada’s East Coast this year is difficult because of competing factors in the global climate.


Meteorologist Bob Robichaud says much depends on whether this season’s El Nino — characterized by above-average water temperatures over the Pacific Ocean — has its usual calming impact on the Atlantic waters.


Robichaud says that in El Nino years, high-altitude winds that blow toward the Atlantic Ocean have decreased the number of storms in waters off Canada’s eastern shores.

However, the forecaster for the federal agency says it’s not known yet whether the impact of an El Nino in 2023 will be countered by the human-caused warming of the Atlantic, which has increased the frequency and intensity of storms.

Earlier today, the U.S.-based National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration predicted one to four major storms this hurricane season, where winds could be stronger than 177 kilometres per hour.

Robichaud says the agency’s number is in line with historical averages of three major storms during the June 1 to Nov. 30 season in the Atlantic.

But he adds that it takes just one storm to create havoc, reminding that hurricane Fiona took three lives, destroyed houses, and knocked out power to more than 600,000 homes and businesses when it made landfall in the Atlantic region Sept. 24, 2022.
So what else is new? Storms have always happened in that area!
 

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Wealthy Western govts can't seem to do a fucking thing about homelessness but hey, they insist they can lower the Earth's temperature if you pay enough carbon tax.
 
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