It was an accident, says father of 2 girls who froze to death

[#juan]

It was an accident, says father of 2 girls who froze to death

It might have been an accident if the guy had no experience in our winters. You can bet any money that he wouldn't have gone outside in -50 degree weather wearing only the light clothing the kids had on. An accident? How about homicidal insanity.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Dangerous offender material if you ask me. Is there even the slightest remote possibility that this guy won't hurt someone else?

Lethbridge Herald - Hefty sentence in assault case

"Despite having one of the most violent criminal records a Court of Queen’s Bench judge has ever seen, a 32-year-old man has not been designated as a long-term offender.
After waiting more than a month to hear the outcome, Alexander George Wawia was handed a sentence of five-and-a half years for the severe beating of a 47-year-old man with a pipe over an alleged debt in February 2007. But Justice James Langston said he was not prepared to find him a long-term offender.When giving his decision, Langston, who called the assault “particularly brutal,” recalled how Wawia used a steel pipe to repeatedly strike the victim for more than an hour in his own home. The man suffered significant physical and psychological injuries, in which he is still trying to fully recover.
Upon his arrest, Wawia showed no remorse for what he had done, added Langston, and said he was simply protecting his own territory.
Before arriving at his decision for the appropriate sentence, Langston recalled the 83 criminal convictions the accused has on his record, in which some are violent assaults that occurred both in and outside of correctional facilities. On one occasion in a New Brunswick institution, Wawia assaulted another inmate by banging his head against the ground to the point where guards fired warning shots at him to get him to back off. On another occasion, Wawia and another individual assaulted a man while in the Lethbridge Provincial Court holding cells, kicking him repeatedly.
A forensic psychologist who testified during the long-term offender hearing in January told the court Wawia has never known a life outside of crime. He was raised in an environment surrounded by criminal activity and drug usage, and continued that lifestyle well into his adult years. The testimony also revealed Wawia was a sufficient risk to re-offend, especially if he continues to be involved in dealing drugs, where he sees violence as part of the business.
When an individual comes before the court and has a background of serious violent offences, the Crown can ask for a risk assessment to be conducted to see if they meet criteria for a long-term offender designation. Wawia was given credit for his time spent in custody, which reduces his sentence to three years behind bars."

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[Ron in Regina]

Prison Sentence For Christopher Pauchay

Judge rejects sentencing circle recommendations
Source: Prison Sentence For Christopher Pauchay | News Talk 980
Reported By Brendan Wagner
Posted March 6, 2009 - 2:34pm

A Yellow Quill First Nation man has been sentenced to three years in prison, less
two months for time already served. The sentence was handed down by Judge
Barry Morgan Friday afternoon.

Christopher Pauchay's two young daughters froze to death at Yellow Quill in January
of 2008. Pauchay stumbled drunk from his home and became separated from the
girls. Their bodies were found in a snowdrift, wearing only diapers and t-shirts.

Pauchay had pleaded guilty to criminal negligence causing death, but told the
judge it wouldn't help to send him to jail.

Members of a sentencing circle recommended last month Pauchay should be allowed
to heal in his community rather than behind bars.
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[Ron in Regina]

Christopher Pauchey gets 3yrs minus the two months of remand,
so he can reasonably be expected to be released in 17 months or
so, and be home before Halloween in 2011. Two deaths and one
charge of second degree manslaughter, following his previous 56
or 58 prior convictions. :-?

I can't help but think of Robert Latimer, and the death of his
daughter (euthanasia), receiving a LIFE sentence, and being
released after 9yrs of incarceration. One death and one charge
of second-degree murder, with this crime falling on an absolutely
clean (=zero) criminal record. 8O

This will only take a couple of minutes to quickly skim the links
below so that you too can compare these two crimes, and
sentences, and to compare these two men.

The Robert Latimer Website

Robert Latimer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JLM]

Christopher Pauchey gets 3yrs minus the two months of remand,
so he can reasonably be expected to be released in 17 months or
so, and be home before Halloween in 2011. Two deaths and one
charge of second degree manslaughter, following his previous 56
or 58 prior convictions. :-?

I can't help but think of Robert Latimer, and the death of his
daughter (euthanasia), receiving a LIFE sentence, and being
released after 10yrs of incarceration. One death and one charge
of second-degree murder, with this crime falling on an absolutely
clean (=zero) criminal record. 8O

This will only take a couple of minutes to quickly skim the links
below so that you too can compare these two crimes, and
sentences, and to compare these two men.

The Robert Latimer Website

Robert Latimer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Yep, this sure doesn't equate with Latimer's sentence. I'm glad however the judge did decide the girls' lives were worth something, albeit a pretty paltry amount. I've heard the defendent had numerous prior convictions although I'm not sure how many or for what crimes, but I have a feeling he's badly screwed up. Hopefully he can be salvaged and come to a realization of what it is he's done.

 

[petros]

Hopefully he can be salvaged and come to a realization of what it is he's done.

He has a few years to sober up. Lets just hope that he doesn't father any more children when he gets out.

 

[Ron in Regina]

He's had the last year to sober up, with the support of his
Family, Friends, and community. That didn't happen....

The next maybe year & 1/2 inside, he'll have access to
mash and all sorts of other stuff, and the excuse of being
in prison as justification to continue. Me, Me, Me, Me...

Sorry, but that's exactly how I feel, and how I see this. If
murdering (or involuntary manslaughtering...) a couple of
your own children isn't enough to hit bottom, do you really
think time inside is? This is nothing new to him with fifty-plus
other previous convictions. This is not a "three strikes and
you're out" system we're running here in Canada.

 

[Risus]

It was an accident, says father of 2 girls who froze to death

It might have been an accident if the guy had no experience in our winters. You can bet any money that he wouldn't have gone outside in -50 degree weather wearing only the light clothing the kids had on. An accident? How about homicidal insanity.

A noose would be to good for the guy. What these murderers are getting away with is pitiful.

 

[JLM]

A noose would be to good for the guy. What these murderers are getting away with is pitiful.

Many would agree with you but sadly Pierre Trudeau didn't see it that way.

 

[Risus]

Many would agree with you but sadly Pierre Trudeau didn't see it that way.

Pierre Trudeau was an idiot and many would agree with that, too. The law needs to be changed...

 

[Zzarchov]

Many would agree with you but sadly Pierre Trudeau didn't see it that way.

Trudeau had nothing to do with this.

These guys you are so enraged with aren't getting the maximum penalty currently. IF you made the maxium penalty worse, it still wouldn't apply to them.

What it would apply to would be people whom you think are being drastically overpunished (especially when compared to these people).

currently you will see someone who killed their rapist years later get life in prison and this asshole get a veritable slap on the wrist.

If "Trudeau hadn't gotten his way", you'd see the person get hung and this asshole would still just get a slap on the wrist.

 

[JLM]

Pierre Trudeau was an idiot and many would agree with that, too. The law needs to be changed...

I just about fell off my chair, I was so amazed to see someone who recognized that fact.

 

[JLM]

Trudeau had nothing to do with this.

These guys you are so enraged with aren't getting the maximum penalty currently. IF you made the maxium penalty worse, it still wouldn't apply to them.

What it would apply to would be people whom you think are being drastically overpunished (especially when compared to these people).

currently you will see someone who killed their rapist years later get life in prison and this asshole get a veritable slap on the wrist.

If "Trudeau hadn't gotten his way", you'd see the person get hung and this asshole would still just get a slap on the wrist.

Yep, too bad judges weren't made to take a two hour course in Common Sense.

 

[Ron in Regina]

I just about fell off my chair, I was so amazed to see someone who recognized that fact.

JLM....there are many people who reside to the West of the GTA.
Very few people I have meet in that geographical region think very
highly of P.E.Trudeau, and with his salute to the West, I think he may
very well have reciprocated that sentiment.

Quote from Solicitor General Jean-Pierre Goyer (appointed by P.E.Trudeau)
from a 1971 speech to the House of Commons, on the Liberal government's
agenda for the justice system:

"We have decided to stress the rehabilitation of individuals, rather
than the protection of society."
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Follow that up with 38 years of case precedence, & here we are today.

 

[Ron in Regina]

OK...on an ugly (but lighter) note...tying into the "Me.Me.Me..."
personality of Mr. Pauchey and the rehabilitation we can expect
from him after his previous fifty-plus convictions:

“What’s prison going to do for me? It keeps me away from
my family, from my daughter and from the things I like doing.”

Source: Christopher Pauchay sentenced to three years in federal penitentiary
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On a more serious note. This isn't over. There are basically two
camps of thought on this sentence, and they're diametrically opposed:

1) Those that are outraged and disgusted that the Judge did not
respect the wishes and guidance of the Sentencing Circle. Pauchey
got prison time, and the sentencing circle wanted zero time served
for these deaths. That might be seen as racist and disrespectful.

2) Those that are outraged and disgusted that the sentence was so
lenient compared to other sentences of a perceived similar nature,
due to a perceived two tier legal system (real or not). These people
will be called racists.

This may boil over into something uglier than what had already been
created by Mr. Pauchey so far. The two camps of thought seem to
follow racial lines, reading comments on the story in the comment
sections following these stories in the newspapers. Lets hope that
it stays just as comments, and not actions.

 

[JLM]

Weirdest accident I've heard of for awhile- take your kids out into minus 50 weather for all intents and purposes naked..............obviously not much hope for this fella, the brain cells just aren't there.

 

[shadowshiv]

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Well, for some reason this doesn't show up for me, but I will quote it anyway. Even though I was hoping that this scumwad would have gotten dangerous offender status(he beat the poor fellow mercilessly), I figured that wishy-washy judges would prevail(and they did!:roll and he would get a pathetic sentence.

Thank you for proving me right yet again, oh pathetic Canadian judges.:roll::x:roll:

 

[shadowshiv]

1) Those that are outraged and disgusted that the Judge did not
respect the wishes and guidance of the Sentencing Circle. Pauchey
got prison time, and the sentencing circle wanted zero time served
for these deaths. That might be seen as racist and disrespectful.

All I have to say to people in this camp is too bad. With the amount of prior convictions and (apparent) lack of caring on this idiot's part, he got off pretty easily. He deserved time in prison that much is certain. He should have gotten more, but I am just glad that he got any at all.

 

[#juan]

This is going to sound racist but can anyone envision a "whiteman" with fifty odd previous convictions getting three years for killing his kids? I can't

 

[Ron in Regina]

This is going to sound racist but can anyone envision a "whiteman" with fifty odd previous convictions getting three years for killing his kids? I can't

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On a more serious note. This isn't over. There are basically two
camps of thought on this sentence, and they're diametrically opposed:

1) Those that are outraged and disgusted that the Judge did not
respect the wishes and guidance of the Sentencing Circle. Pauchey
got prison time, and the sentencing circle wanted zero time served
for these deaths. That might be seen as racist and disrespectful.

2) Those that are outraged and disgusted that the sentence was so
lenient compared to other sentences of a perceived similar nature,
due to a perceived two tier legal system (real or not). These people
will be called racists.

This may boil over into something uglier than what had already been
created by Mr. Pauchey so far. The two camps of thought seem to
follow racial lines, reading comments on the story in the comment
sections following these stories in the newspapers. Lets hope that
it stays just as comments, and not actions.

It's ugly that you have to qualify your statement before you
state it, but you're not alone in that opinion. This sentence
will draw lines, and the ripples will last for a long time.