It Seems Impossible (Declaring the Holocaust a Myth)

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As expected this thread went down hill fast. But it was started by somone I suspect was bored and wanted to provoke a little action. His main purpose appears to be to insult people, rather than debate the issue of the Holocaust. I feel I made my points and responded to the intelligent posts I saw. I can't claim I read this entire thread. Sorry if I missed an intelligent post directed at me. But that's all I care to contribute on this thread.

Grow up children...
 

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As expected this thread went down hill fast. But it was started by somone I suspect was bored and wanted to provoke a little action. His main purpose appears to be to insult people, rather than debate the issue of the Holocaust. I feel I made my points and responded to the intelligent posts I saw. I can't claim I read this entire thread. Sorry if I missed an intelligent post directed at me. But that's all I care to contribute on this thread.

Grow up children...

There is and was no Issue - The Holocaust is a fact - try as you might to denigrate it -

As you know I being of Aboriginal ancestry - along with Scottish and English - I will remove that honorable name of Babbling Brook and now rename you
Babbling Effluent.
 

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There is and was no Issue - The Holocaust is a fact - try as you might to denigrate it -
You must be getting some attention from above, this link popped up due to a few clicks I wouldn't normally use. Nobody is denying WWII, what is being questioned is if some people would intentionally fabricate things for one reason or another. No doubt all the 'authors' became somewhat famous and that means some coins in the pocket. However do their 'facts' add up realistically or are they wild exaggerations?
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[SIZE=+3]The Incredible Jewish 'Holocaust'
[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]Facts And Opinions Raise Serious Issues[/SIZE]
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From Jason Collett
8-9-10[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]It's Now Official - There Is No Actual Shortage [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]'The Israeli Prime Minister's office recently put the number of "living Holocaust survivors" at nearly a million' (extract from The Holocaust Industry by Norman G. Finkelstein of the City University of New York, published by Verso, London and New York, 2000, p.83). [Google 'Holocaust survivor'][/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1] Elie Wiesel vs Encyclopaedia Britannica[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Wiesel has been one of the most prominent spokesman for the very sizeable group of people known as Holocaust survivors. Wiesel has chaired the US Holocaust Memorial Council and has been the recipient of a Congressional Gold Medal and Nobel Peace Prize.. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Time Magazine, March 18 1985:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]'How had he survived two of the most notorious killing fields [Auschwitz and Buchenwald] of the century? "I will never know" Wiesel says. "I was always weak. I never ate. The slightest wind would turn me over. In Buchenwald they sent 10,000 to their deaths every day. I was always in the last hundred near the gate. They stopped. Why?"[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Compare this with Encyclopaedia Britannica (1993), under 'Buchenwald':[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]"In World War II it held about 20,000 prisoners.. Although there were no gas chambers, hundreds perished monthly through disease, malnutrition, exhaustion, beatings and executions."[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]"A Terrible Fraud" - Wiesel Ignores Palestinians[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]http://www.washington-report.org/backissues/0199/9901055.html[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1] Churchill And Eisenhower Reported NOTHING About A 'Holocaust'[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]"I've checked out the six volumes of Churchill's Second World War and - not a single mention of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Eisenhower's Crusade in Europe is a book of 559 pages; Churchill's Second World War totals 4,448 pages; and De Gaulle's three-volume Mémoires de guerre is 2,054 pages. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]In this mass of writing, which altogether totals 7,061 pages (not including the introductory parts), published from 1948 to 1959, one will find no mention either of Nazi 'gas chambers,' a 'genocide' of the Jews, or of 'six million' Jewish victims of the war."[/SIZE]

[SIZE=+1]Interesting Arithmetic - The Incredible Numbers[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]Have a look at a typical account by one of the seemingly endless number of survivors: Olga Lengyel's Five Chimneys: a woman survivor's true story of Auschwitz(Granada/ Ziff-Davis, 1947, 1972).[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]According to Lengyel, 'After June, 1943, the gas chamber was reserved exclusively for Jews and Gypsies.. Three hundred and sixty corpses every half-hour, which was all the time it took to reduce human flesh to ashes, made 720 per hour, or 17,280 corpses per twenty-four hour shift. And the ovens, with murderous efficiency, functioned day and night. However, one must also reckon the death pits, which could destroy another 8,000 cadavers a day. In round numbers, about 24,000 corpses were handled each day. An admirable production record, one that speaks well for German industry.' (Paperback edition, pp80-81). [No trace of any remains of or in 'death pits' has been found.][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]This implies almost 100,000 corpses per four working days, or a million in 40 days, or six million in 240 days (eight months). Notice the bald precision of the figures without any explanation, the utter confidence in the reader's credulity.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]The blurb on the cover of the book quotes the New York Herald-Tribune: "Passionate, tormenting". Albert Einstein, the promoter of the US construction of the bombs used at Hiroshima and Nagasaki, is quoted as offering "You have done a real service by letting the ones who are now silent and most forgotten speak."[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Could this claim be a misprint?[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Kitty Hart, in spite of her name a Jewish survivor born in Poland, fully confirms these figures:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]'Working around the clock, the four units together could dispose of about 18,000 bodies every twenty-four hours, while the open pits coped with a further 8,000 in the same period.' (p 118; Return to Auschwitz - paperback edition by Granada (1981, 1983).[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]According to the cover blurb, 'The subject of the award-winning Yorkshire television documentary of the same name.' 'Both engaging and harrowingan important addition to the growing holocaust literature, very little of which conveys so courageously both the daily torment and the will to survive' * Martin Gilbert, The Times.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]'Sir' Martin Gilbert, indefatigable Jewish campaigner on behalf of the 'Holocaust' and biographer of Winston Churchill, adds to the rich flavour and makes his own numerical claims, certainly not without chutzpah:[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]In his book Auschwitz and the Allies (1981) he states[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]'The deliberate attempt to destroy systematically all of Europe's Jews was unsuspected in the spring and early summer of 1942: the very period during which it was at its most intense, and during which hundreds of thousands of Jews were being gassed every day at Belzec, Chelmo, Sobibor and Treblinka.' (p.26). [This statement, first noticed by Professor Robert Faurisson, was then deleted (not corrected) from the next edition - no simple typo, no simple error with omission or spelling or grammar, just a case of being caught red-handed in blatant chutzpah deluxe.][/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]If we assume a minimum figure of 200,000 per day, this amounts to say a million a five-day working week, or 6 million in six weeks, and this does not include the amazing claims for Auschwitz put forward by Hart and Lengyel with Gilbert's blessing.[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]I sent the above note about the lies of Elie Wiesel to an anti-zionist contact in New York,[/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]and this is the reply I received:[/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]ha ha ha ! [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Well, here it is - [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]"Genetically" speaking I am what is commonly called a "Jew". [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]My last name is "_____", which was pronounced as "_____" over in the territory onced called "Austro-Hungaria". [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]On my mother's side of the of my family I am genetically tied to the "_____" bloodline, which is "Jewish" and has been here in America-Land, i.e. NY, i.e. "Manhattan", which initially was the Dutch Colony called "New Amsterdam". In point of fact they WERE "money changers", ha ha ha ! [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Back when "Haarlem" (which is Dutch for "Lovely Meadows") was pasture farmland. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]So what does all this stuff have to do with the price of potatoes? [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Ha Ha Ha! So glad you asked! [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Throughout my life, I was inculcated with "Jewish Tradition". My upbringing was notably Christian, but many Bat Mitzvahs, etc, also comprised my life too. During the easter season, having a Passover Dinner with all the rituals was law. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Whether family members are Orthodox, moderate, or Conservative, or even Rabbis!.. NONE of them spoke of "Death Camps"...."People being thrown alive into Ovens (the so-called Holocaust or "Shoah"), and other utter nonsense. As for Gas Chambers, initially, people laughed at that nonsense. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]In the early 1970's, there was a "Nazi Parade" in Illinois, where the "New Official Holocaust" pronouncements were made. I clearly remember the consternation within my family that these remarks caused. I had many relatives who SURVIVED the Nazi work camps, which was what they were called before this event. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]You have to know that the Orthodox Jew members of my family don't think that the state of "Israel" should even exist! They await for an Act of God to precipitate the return of the Jews to " Israel". [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]When they heard of this "new history" about a "Holocaust" they simply went bonkers. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Many arguments happened and many family ties were broken over this revisionist history. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Now it is decades later and the divide within my famliy is total and permanent. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]The "new History" is now the "Official History" and we are all worse off because of this fact. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]Soon an "Anti-Hate Law" will be in effect. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]That means that I, a "Genetic jew", who was raised a Lutheran, will PERHAPS be able to express my thoughts, but WILL be labelled a "Self-Hating Jew", and probably in need of psych-meds. [/SIZE] [SIZE=+1]That is the long and the short of it. [/SIZE] As a bonus Goober you win some info on the Rothschild beginnings. I can hardly wait for part two if it takes up where this article leaves off. lol

(in part) The Rothschilds and the "Crown"
When people think of the "Crown", they think of the Queen and the Royal family. In this, they are mistaken.


"When people hear of 'The Crown' they automatically think of the King or Queen; when they hear of 'London' or the 'The City'
they instantly think of the capital of England in which the monarch has his or her official residence.


...When we speak of 'The City' we are in fact referring to a privately owned Corporation - or Sovereign State - occupying an irregular rectangle of 677 acres and located right in the heart of the 610 square mile 'Greater London' area. The population of 'The City' is listed at just over four thousand, whereas the population of 'Greater London' (32 boroughs) is approximately seven and a half million." (Source)


The "City of London" was created after the invasion of William of Orange, who acted on behalf of the disbanded Knights Templar. This is why the Templar Shield is at the center of the city's crest. The descendants of the Templars organized Freemasonry with the Rosicrucians and, later, the Illuminati at the head. These are the real rulers of the English Empire and the City of London is their capital.


"The Bank of England and its monstrous ancient temple of a building is the template for all big central banks that wish to perpetuate the global scam. Located in the private City of London the counterfeiting operation opened its doors in 1694 as an easy way for the Government to create finance. It was only later that the Rothschilds infiltrated the institution. The initial idea came from Scottish money changer William Paterson who some researchers claim was an initiate in to the Order of the Orange, a Merovingian Bloodline secret society developed by Dutch (Templar) Freemason, William of Orange." (Source)


The City of London is governed by the Illuminati-Freemasons and they are governed by their god Lucifer/Satan. The Bank of England owns the Central Banks established around the world, and this is the real power of the modern British Empire. One example is the United States Federal Reserve Bank, which is wholly owned by the Bank of England and her subsidiaries. Thus the world has been enslaved by the Illuminati-Free-Mason conspiracy which exacts her tribute through interest on their various currencies.


"Historically all British military colonies with white populations such as Australia, New Zealand, Canada and South Africa were under the authority of the Queen and her Government. Whereas all other brown “slave” colonies such as India, Egypt, Bermuda, Malta, Singapore, Hong Kong, Gibraltar and the African nations were the private property of the Crown, which is the separate board of the City of London. These colonies were exploited for slave labor and trade, to make the cartels richer and more powerful." (Ibid)


"The Crown" has nothing to do with the Queen. It is a private corporation led by the Illuminati. Fascism and slavery are its history, obscene power and profit its goal, no matter what the source:


"During the development of this two tiered British Empire the BRITISH EAST INDIA COMPANY (BEIC) owned by the CROWN began making a fortune through the Opium trade. One of their strategies was to get the vast impoverished Chinese population addicted to opium to create a mass market for the crop, while they also milked their exports at the same time. It didn’t matter to the Crown that China outlawed the drug. They wanted money and money they got.


The Royal Family also wanted their greedy claws on the profits so joined their counterparts in the CITY and negotiated a tax on the opium farmers in there Indian colony. Thus huge amounts of opium were shipped from India at a tax to China and the Royal Family added an enormous amount of money to their every increasing pot. Slaves in India produced the opium and gave them a cut for nothing, and impoverished laborers in China bought it to smoke while picking tea leaves for export back to Britain. Next time you pick up a box of teabags with the endorsement stamp “By appointment to Her Majesty the Queen”, spare a second for our Chinese neighbors." (Source)


 
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All you offer are personal comment bases on your own bias.
I know that's all you see. That way you don't have to answer questions.

You wonb't even argue against the things promoted that you should know to be completely against well established physics.
Because you don't know physics. You just parrot what someone told you on the internet. Which is why when I ask you direct questions, you refuse to answer, because you can't find the answers at the source of your opinion. Which of course is why I ask you those questions, knowing full well, you can't answer them.

Which of course I do to watch you squirm and wiggle around. Making me laugh each and every time.

Anything you promote after that is also just from your uninformed opinion.
Which is why I am capable of forming questions you just can't answer no doubt.

Like you and especially Dex you just duck out of the conversation and refuse to answer specific questions.
You're projecting mhz.

I just counted 14 questions I've asked you in the last 6 months. None have been answered.

Coming from Canada that hold no surprises, same as it is nothing new for the Rothschild to acquire lands in an area they know is going to be 'in demand'.
There's question number 15, you refused to answer.

Better go look up that name in a Jewish Encyclopedia, they are quite fond of their benefactor. If they don't deny the importance they played in the creation of Israel you shouldn't be bucking what they freely admit to?
Wow, a question mark at the end of an assertion. You wonder why no one answers those?

Unlike Israel which demonizes people and Nations as a full time occupation.
The US and Israel also freely admit to financially and materially supporting any group that will try and create havoc in Iran. Israel even whines when Iran acquires missiles that are for defense only, lol.
Your point?

Actually it was from a show called the Beverly Hillbillies.
Which is why you thought it was a good idea to try it on yourself?

Just about everybody know a whack from one of those means the person won't ever be getting up under their own steam, ever.
Which is why you show signs of severe brain trauma?

You said nothing of consequence in that thread.
Ya, except to prove the Fed isn't run like you think it is, and show the errors and outright lies contained in your Op/Ed pieces, complete with links to factual articles, the Library of Congress and so on.

Please read my sig again, your reading comprehension issue is causing you great difficulty.

one post with not5hing put pointless questions and another to say a chart from 1975 that showed the relationships of the various banks was outdated because it was 35 years old.
You might want to check that thread again. I'm sure you'll miss all the facts, again, you haven't a clue what one looks like. You post Op/Ed pieces like they are truly meaningful, without understanding the difference between fact and opinion, well actually, fact and fiction seeing as most of what you post is pure fiction.

In an industry that is more than 250 years old the chart is very accurate, even today.
Even though almost everybody on it is dead?

Ummm, OK.

lol, reading comprehension isn't one of your strong suits.
Projecting again mhz. Excellent way to avoid having to address what I said though. I'm not surprised in the least.

I wasn't aware that Kosovo came under the same conditions that Israel agreed to before being recognized as a Nation.
I bet there's literally tons of things that you aren't aware of, facts, making up the majority.

They made liars out of themselves before the end of that same years let alone the false 'peace loving' title they were given in that more that a few hundred Arab villages were terrorized in the middle of the night by the infant Israeli military. Do you need to review that video again, you never did comment on it the last time a link was given? Occupation 100 and there are a few that are more specific to that time period but if you can't handle the generalized one then there is no use giving you more details.
I'm still waiting for details. Hell, I'm still waiting to see you concede to all the facts that have been presented that completely undermines half the Op/Ed crap you think is real.

2 more posts that have zero for substance, at least 'you guys' are throughly consistent. lol in a sad sort of way
Only two more, I guess that means we have 5,293 substance free posts to go before we catch up to you eh?

As expected this thread went down hill fast.
Not that you didn't help out..."Agressive Narcissist."

But it was started by somone I suspect was bored and wanted to provoke a little action. His main purpose appears to be to insult people, rather than debate the issue of the Holocaust.
You mean insults like "Apologist" or "Aggressive Narcissist"?

I feel I made my points and responded to the intelligent posts I saw.
Why bother, you may as well have popped in, said "I came, I saw, I feel the same." You're another one that can not concede when proven wrong.

I can't claim I read this entire thread.
But that won't stop you from commenting on the entire thread.

Sorry if I missed an intelligent post directed at me.
You missed several and you're apologizing for the wrong sin.
But that's all I care to contribute on this thread.
No more then usual.
Grow up children...
Says one of the children.

You must be getting some attention from above, this link popped up due to a few clicks I wouldn't normally use. Nobody is denying WWII, what is being questioned is if some people would intentionally fabricate things for one reason or another.
And oddly, no one is questioning that.

No doubt all the 'authors' became somewhat famous and that means some coins in the pocket.
No doubt you understand that the same applies to the authors of the material you use right?
However do their 'facts' add up realistically or are they wild exaggerations?
Good question, do you ask the same of your suppliers of information?
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[SIZE=+3]The Incredible Jewish 'Holocaust'
[/SIZE][SIZE=+2]Facts And Opinions Raise Serious Issues[/SIZE]
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From Jason Collett[/SIZE]
That big red word would be an excellent indication that you'll be getting an opinion. Having read the rest, that is what you got, in entirety.

(in part) The Rothschilds and the "Crown"
When people think of the "Crown", they think of the Queen and the Royal family. In this, they are mistaken.
Wow, more opinion.

"When people hear of 'The Crown' they automatically think of the King or Queen; when they hear of 'London' or the 'The City'
they instantly think of the capital of England in which the monarch has his or her official residence.
More opinion.

The "City of London" was created after the invasion of William of Orange, who acted on behalf of the disbanded Knights Templar. This is why the Templar Shield is at the center of the city's crest. The descendants of the Templars organized Freemasonry with the Rosicrucians and, later, the Illuminati at the head. These are the real rulers of the English Empire and the City of London is their capital.
Does this post come with a free supply of tin foil?



 
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That big red word would be an excellent indication that you'll be getting an opinion. Having read the rest, that is what you got, in entirety.
FYI... Legally speaking an opinion can put you away for life or cost you a pile of cash.

We need a better language that isn't so damn ambiguous.
 

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FYI... Legally speaking an opinion can put you away for life or cost you a pile of cash.

We need a better language that isn't so damn ambiguous.
Agreed.

But I think if the Crown prosecutor were to start filing evidence that included claims of an Illuminati conspiracy, as proof of the defendants guilt, the conviction would end up in the lose category.

There's opinion based on fact, than there's opinion based on conjecture, and other opinions. Then there's the the stuff Mhz posts. Which you can find at Chapters under "Pulp Fiction".
 

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Agreed.

But I think if the Crown prosecutor were to start filing evidence that included claims of an Illuminati conspiracy, as proof of the defendants guilt, the conviction would end up in the lose category.

There's opinion based on fact, than there's opinion based on conjecture, and other opinions. Then there's the the stuff Mhz posts. Which you can find at Chapters under "Pulp Fiction".
Chapters...the modern public library where marketing drives the content of the material? It's a good place to read about the rumour of a Catholic Jesuit group underming global trade and politics started by Lutherans, Protestants, Jews.

The American anxiety based religious sects then ran with it and here we are today.
 

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Chapters...the modern public library where marketing drives the content of the material? It's a good place to read about the rumour of a Catholic Jesuit group underming global trade and politics started by Lutherans, Protestants, Jews.

The American anxiety based religious sects then ran with it and here we are today.
Bingo!!!
 

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They also gave us a lot of really cool things that we sometimes take for granted.

But they do indeed control bingo....and some people say cigarettes and drugs in Jersey.

Oh and dollars to wafers says one of their lawyers came up with the clever caveat of "some people say" used by FOX news and now myself. I want to buy that lawyer a beer.
 

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I know that's all you see. That way you don't have to answer questions.
So going through a persons post point-by-point is now also a way of avoiding questions when all you and Anna have to do is find some punctuation error in order to ignore all the previous words. Nice to know your only requirement for a person to be MENSA material (like you) is being a good typist.
If you are bringing up the NIST report then there is even later material (a vid at that) from a former NIST member that deals only with their ‘findings’. Even what was given as a ‘reply’ by me pointed to the errors in the ‘official report’ and what NIST had published. The official report had sagging (with no allowance for the 4“ of concrete as counting as both support and as a heat-sink) and that resulted in that pulling both the inner and outer columns to such an extent that they ‘snapped’. Finding out you claim authority by the fact that you hold 12 welding related certificates pretty much says you cheated to get those items or you are a bald-faced liar. ( as gentle a term as I know to use when the ‘incident’ claimed 3,000 innocent lives and a person (you) won’t confirm that the ‘official report’ is in error. Holding no such certificated I provided two things instead. A link to NIST that duplicated the floor and subjected it to high heat and found there was no sagging, there was minor flaking in some areas of the concrete and slight deformation in part of the joist that resulted in a ‘sag’ of an inch. That was followed up by a hour long vid that compared the ‘official story from the Gov ‘ on WTC7‘ that showed some of their ‘presentations’ were based on animations alone and not through an interactive physics program.
You expect the ‘answer’ to change your mind, that is your task not mine. If I can supply something that supports my current view then the ‘links’ give me the right to continue to hold onto that view until new information becomes available. The latest vid I mentioned didn’t challenge the view about deception being involved. Luck for me you, Anna, Dex and whoever don’t agree with the presented vid that is not my problem and you have run of arguments for the info that is now just being examined by the general public.

Because you don't know physics. You just parrot what someone told you on the internet. Which is why when I ask you direct questions, you refuse to answer, because you can't find the answers at the source of your opinion. Which of course is why I ask you those questions, knowing full well, you can't answer them.
Actually the ‘cause and effect’ parts of our mechanical word are quite easy for me to understand. The question first has to be though of before you can look up an ‘answer’. You ask questions know full we no matter how detailed the answer is you can just claim that it wasn’t an answer because it didn’t change your mind. You are really that transparent, nor do you believe in fairness for all, you believe select groups are above other. So did the Nazis and look what happened.

Which of course I do to watch you squirm and wiggle around. Making me laugh each and every time.
That is probably an apt description of your whole life.

Which is why I am capable of forming questions you just can't answer no doubt.
Most of your questions come from other people's work most likely and if you already believe them to be unanswerable then no matter how solid the reply is your mind will stay locked. That doesn't mean I can't continue to be ‘open' when the next vid/article comes along. In this recent link it is the errors in the ‘math' that some ‘verified witnesses' have given. If it has an effect on the whole of the event then it is worth paying attention to.

You're projecting mhz.
I'm pretty sure that one of you has been asked the same thing more than once by myself (or others) several time. A few times I have even narrowed the question down to a yes or no reply yet you answer is the equal of a dial-tone.

I just counted 14 questions I've asked you in the last 6 months. None have been answered.
I'm impressed, feel free to post them again in whatever thread you wish, I'll certainly try to give a quick and concise answer. If it asks for an experts opinion you can expect a link and zero words of my own. (as in something NIST has explored)

There's question number 15, you refused to answer.
The information is quite available that it would be easy for you to find. Once the Rothschild began to put money in the ‘project' they began to buy property in Jerusalem and in the land that would become Israel. They are a business enterprise that is out to maximize their own pockets and to a greater degree make it next to impossible for them to be ‘overthrown'.

Wow, a question mark at the end of an assertion. You wonder why no one answers those?
See how you deflect from the question (first half of the sentence), even a rephrase will bring the same result.

Your point?
If the US and Israel freely admit to trying to shape the Governments of various foreign Nations using methods that would be frowned upon in most circumstances when it comes to the interaction of Nations. Israeli influence over the American Government is the only exception I can think of at the moment.

Which is why you thought it was a good idea to try it on yourself?
It is a little late to have it be of any use but you should be made aware it was not a guide to proper social behavior. It did, however, make Granny the ‘winner' of the upcoming KO Event.

Ya, except to prove the Fed isn't run like you think it is, and show the errors and outright lies contained in your Op/Ed pieces, complete with links to factual articles, the Library of Congress and so on.
There isn’t one vid on the linked page that the Fed is a controlled ‘body’ that is for bthe enrichment of it’s owners, and it is not Americans. There are many more that show the same thing. The Fed is owned by people in foreign Nations.
Watch Economics Documentaries

Please read my sig again, your reading comprehension issue is causing you great difficulty.
That is because your ‘facts' are based on the same words a fox would say when questioned about events concerning the hen-house. At it's mildest the interest on the National dept of all the Nations is considered pocket change compared to the control they have by them having representives on all the major corporations.

You might want to check that thread again. I'm sure you'll miss all the facts, again, you haven't a clue what one looks like. You post Op/Ed pieces like they are truly meaningful, without understanding the difference between fact and opinion, well actually, fact and fiction seeing as most of what you post is pure fiction.
Even though almost everybody on it is dead?
Ummm, OK.
All those Banks are still very much alive and the current board of directors is available on their website. Some are using their ‘connections' as proof of how ‘sound' they are. A change in Directors is never a change in ‘policy' , they are there bbecause they will defend and enhance current policies that make the Banks welfare the most important thing and the more ‘fees and interest' they can rake in the better the ‘head' likes them.

Projecting again mhz. Excellent way to avoid having to address what I said though. I'm not surprised in the least.
Since I was already doing that very thing you are going to have to wait till I have done that. Want to wager on whether in those ‘olden days' they could account for almost every dime compared to the two amounts that the Americans have handled in Iraq. I believe the stats are 95% cannot be accounted for in one case that involves billions and in the other case that involves billions that rate is 100% cannot be accounted for. lol

I bet there's literally tons of things that you aren't aware of, facts, making up the majority.
You are doing an excellent job of helping me keep up with the other things, the lies and deceptions that make the headlines before they are known to be lies.

I'm still waiting for details. Hell, I'm still waiting to see you concede to all the facts that have been presented that completely undermines half the Op/Ed crap you think is real.
You must have missed that partial list I gave the summaries on. Colpy cringed at every one. The biggest argument that anybody had was the use of the word ‘massacre’. The event was not denied, the number of women and kids murdered in the middle of the night. Even made it through the courts, I forget what word had to be substituted for the massacre that took place in that one event.

Only two more, I guess that means we have 5,293 posts to go before we catch up to you eh?
Wake me up when you get to me and Dex start talking about the Bible, esp the one where God is giving us the effects of the power of 10 and the very first page.


No doubt you understand that the same applies to the authors of the material you use right?
Good question, do you ask the same of your suppliers of information?
That big red words would be an excellent indication that you'll be getting an opinion. Having read the rest, that is what you got, in entirety.
Actually the info is freely available, apparently some believe the truth does not automatically come with a price-tag attached. That in-itself will make some blind to it being the truth. If it isn't a ‘purchased' item then it holdsw no truth. It would be no different in this example. You could line your wall with $10,000 worth of Christian material and it won't impact the truth about what sort of believer God is going to classify you as.

Wow, more opinion.
Most people understand that the Vatican and Washington DC are city/states. That shows they exist and that opens the possibility that there are other such places, there is enough history to show that London is also the home of a 3rd such ‘State'.

More opinion.
No there are historical documents that support that. Crown Temple Lawyers is also an aspect of the Crown.

Does this post come with a free supply of tin foil?
The ear-plugs and the eye-shades you have been using are probably quite sufficient. Look at the extremes the Brits will go to to provide ‘enlightenment’.
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So going through a persons post point-by-point is now also a way of avoiding questions when all you and Anna have to do is find some punctuation error in order to ignore all the previous words.
Not at all. I don't ignore serious questions. Hell, I rarely ignore juvenile questions, which is why I answer the bulk of yours.

Nice to know your only requirement for a person to be MENSA material (like you) is being a good typist.
So you fail on two fronts then?

If you are bringing up the NIST report then there is even later material (a vid at that) from a former NIST member that deals only with their ‘findings’. Even what was given as a ‘reply’ by me pointed to the errors in the ‘official report’ and what NIST had published.
I asked you to explain the graph. You've never been able to. Full stop.
The official report had sagging (with no allowance for the 4“ of concrete as counting as both support and as a heat-sink) and that resulted in that pulling both the inner and outer columns to such an extent that they ‘snapped’. Finding out you claim authority by the fact that you hold 12 welding related certificates pretty much says you cheated to get those items or you are a bald-faced liar. ( as gentle a term as I know to use when the ‘incident’ claimed 3,000 innocent lives and a person (you) won’t confirm that the ‘official report’ is in error. Holding no such certificated I provided two things instead. A link to NIST that duplicated the floor and subjected it to high heat and found there was no sagging, there was minor flaking in some areas of the concrete and slight deformation in part of the joist that resulted in a ‘sag’ of an inch. That was followed up by a hour long vid that compared the ‘official story from the Gov ‘ on WTC7‘ that showed some of their ‘presentations’ were based on animations alone and not through an interactive physics program.
You expect the ‘answer’ to change your mind, that is your task not mine. If I can supply something that supports my current view then the ‘links’ give me the right to continue to hold onto that view until new information becomes available. The latest vid I mentioned didn’t challenge the view about deception being involved. Luck for me you, Anna, Dex and whoever don’t agree with the presented vid that is not my problem and you have run of arguments for the info that is now just being examined by the general public.
Are you aware of this thing called a "Paragraph"?

The rest of that long winded rant, was your typical babble, so you don't have to face facts and answer questions.

Actually the ‘cause and effect’ parts of our mechanical word are quite easy for me to understand. The question first has to be though of before you can look up an ‘answer’. You ask questions know full we no matter how detailed the answer is you can just claim that it wasn’t an answer because it didn’t change your mind. You are really that transparent, nor do you believe in fairness for all, you believe select groups are above other.
All I asked was for you to explain the graph. I'm still waiting.

So did the Nazis and look what happened.
How true, you being an excellent example thereof.

That is probably an apt description of your whole life.
Considering the number of stupid people in the world, you would be correct.

I'm almost tempted to call that as you conceding...

Most of your questions come from other people's work most likely and if you already believe them to be unanswerable then no matter how solid the reply is your mind will stay locked.
Can you please supply me with a link to anyone's work, in which they ask you to explain that graph?

That doesn't mean I can't continue to be ‘open' when the next vid/article comes along. In this recent link it is the errors in the ‘math' that some ‘verified witnesses' have given. If it has an effect on the whole of the event then it is worth paying attention to.
If it actually has an affect on the whole of the vent. The numbers really don't bare out as being such though. Unless of course you want to negate the event.

I'm pretty sure that one of you has been asked the same thing more than once by myself (or others) several time. A few times I have even narrowed the question down to a yes or no reply yet you answer is the equal of a dial-tone.
Because you don't know my number.

I'm still waiting to see a question.

I'm impressed, feel free to post them again in whatever thread you wish, I'll certainly try to give a quick and concise answer.
Explain the graph, that would be the simplest thing to do, if you actually knew what it represented.

If it asks for an experts opinion you can expect a link and zero words of my own. (as in something NIST has explored)
Or was manipulated by your sources. NIST has made no claims that support your position. They have however conducted a myriad tests, under a multiple of situations and controls. One of which your suppliers have hijacked as a smoking gun, whithout ever explaining why. Which is why I asked to to explain it, and why I'm still waiting for an answer.

The information is quite available that it would be easy for you to find.
Yes, I'm well aware of the information available on my family name and how our role played out in the formation of Canada. But that wasn't the question was it?

Once the Rothschild began to put money in the ‘project' they began to buy property in Jerusalem and in the land that would become Israel. They are a business enterprise that is out to maximize their own pockets and to a greater degree make it next to impossible for them to be ‘overthrown'.
Like most businesses.

See how you deflect from the question (first half of the sentence), even a rephrase will bring the same result.
There's no question in the first half of that sentence either mhz.

Again, proving my point.
It is a little late to have it be of any use but you should be made aware it was not a guide to proper social behavior. It did, however, make Granny the ‘winner' of the upcoming KO Event.
I have no doubt hat your own Grandmother would want to do that to.

There isn’t one vid on the linked page that the Fed is a controlled ‘body’ that is for bthe enrichment of it’s owners, and it is not Americans. There are many more that show the same thing. The Fed is owned by people in foreign Nations.
Watch Economics Documentaries
espite all the policy that causes the facts and evidence, that says otherwise.

I can play connect the dots too mhz. I just chose to grow past that game when I was 3.

That is because your ‘facts' are based on the same words a fox would say when questioned about events concerning the hen-house. At it's mildest the interest on the National dept of all the Nations is considered pocket change compared to the control they have by them having representives on all the major corporations.
Ummm, OK.

All those Banks are still very much alive and the current board of directors is available on their website.
Sadly though, the Fed does not and never has published who their stockholders are. That's a fact. Any claim is just that, a claim.

Some are using their ‘connections' as proof of how ‘sound' they are. A change in Directors is never a change in ‘policy' , they are there bbecause they will defend and enhance current policies that make the Banks welfare the most important thing and the more ‘fees and interest' they can rake in the better the ‘head' likes them.
Despite the fact that the Fed pays the Treasury.

Since I was already doing that very thing
Full stop. Is this another point you just conceded to?

You are doing an excellent job of helping me keep up with the other things, the lies and deceptions that make the headlines before they are known to be lies.
Thus proving my statement to be factual. Thank you.

You must have missed that partial list I gave the summaries on.
I've missed nothing.

Colpy cringed at every one.
You're watching Colpy?

The biggest argument that anybody had was the use of the word ‘massacre’. The event was not denied, the number of women and kids murdered in the middle of the night. Even made it through the courts, I forget what word had to be substituted for the massacre that took place in that one event.
Ya, because it was found to be a lie.:roll:

Wake me up when you get to me and Dex start talking about the Bible, esp the one where God is giving us the effects of the power of 10 and the very first page.
Great, now I have 5,294 to go.

Actually the info is freely available, apparently some believe the truth does not automatically come with a price-tag attached.
Or having spoon fed to them by people trying to make a buck...
That in-itself will make some blind to it being the truth.
Quite, which explains you.

If it isn't a ‘purchased' item then it holdsw no truth.
If it's found on the internet, it should be examined with great vigor.

Something you're incapable of doing.

It would be no different in this example. You could line your wall with $10,000 worth of Christian material and it won't impact the truth about what sort of believer God is going to classify you as.
Agreed, which again, is an excellent example and expose into, you...

Most people understand that the Vatican and Washington DC are city/states. That shows they exist and that opens the possibility that there are other such places, there is enough history to show that London is also the home of a 3rd such ‘State'.
Awesome, your point? Or do I have to rely on you posting someone else's opinion as to why that is?

No there are historical documents that support that. Crown Temple Lawyers is also an aspect of the Crown.
Ya, I don't think you missed the point, I know you did.

The ear-plugs and the eye-shades you have been using are probably quite sufficient.
Only so far. But I always take them off when the alarm clock goes off. You should try that sometime.

Look at the extremes the Brits will go to to provide ‘enlightenment’.
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What a liar you are coffee will instantly kill a keyboard if it gets into the bowels of the circuits.
Hence the word "off", not the words "out of".

You need addiction counseling.
Although I don't understand how spitting coffee on my screen and keyboard, whist reading something funny that I was ill prepared for, would indicate so. I do understand how your posts would indicate a desperate need for you to look into remedial English reading and comprehension classes.

If you don't like me making my posts personal, perhaps not asking me to point out your stupidity would be a good start.
 
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As time permits. You woulds be simply amazed by the number of people who have to leave the room when the words 'compensation' and 'forced sterilization act'
are mentioned in the same sentence.
Want to wager this will take less than 23 years? Want to wager that 1/2 of the settlement given to the friendly Lawyer in the 23 year old case will result in somebody doing time in prison and/or spending the next 25 years under lawsuits that target them for various misdeeds even after all the waivers have been signed. That is still a better deal than being late for their next birthday.
 

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As time permits.
I'm guessing it won't...

You woulds be simply amazed by the number of people who have to leave the room when the words 'compensation' and 'forced sterilization act' are mentioned in the same sentence.
You for got to mention that you called them "Illuminati" and "Rothschild's".

I can understand why they ran away. For the same reasons your invisible friend killed himself.

Want to wager this will take less than 23 years?
Bet it happens before you answer any questions, or concede when proven wrong.

Want to wager that 1/2 of the settlement given to the friendly Lawyer in the 23 year old case will result in somebody doing time in prison and/or spending the next 25 years under lawsuits that target them for various misdeeds even after all the waivers have been signed.
Given that you described yourself and your sister as short and bald, maybe your parents were trying to keep Canada beautiful when they signed the papers to have you and your sister fixed.

That is still a better deal than being late for their next birthday.
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Hence the word "off", not the words "out of".

Although I don't understand how spitting coffee on my screen and keyboard, whist reading something funny that I was ill prepared for, would indicate so. I do understand how your posts would indicate a desperate need for you to look into remedial English reading and comprehension classes.

If you don't like me making my posts personal, perhaps not asking me to point out your stupidity would be a good start.
You lucked out then, I also hope it came out your nose. The addiction would only be if the coffee and the keyboard and the screen were nothing more than words on a page.

Please go right ahead, chat between yourselves. I love to see living examples of 'quality time' unfold before me. I'm not sure why you didn't warn Goober about the dangers of the 'rating button' as some might abuse it by doing something akin to a drive-by.

Besides posting to anything that has your handle associated with it there is no stupidity involved. My stance on any topic I have covered has some form of back-up. Had I been drinking coffee when Dex chimed in his full support to the hijacking with box-cutters as advertised by the US Gov I certainly would have (and many many other people) been swapping out their keyboards.
 

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You lucked out then, I also hope it came out your nose. The addiction would only be if the coffee and the keyboard and the screen were nothing more than words on a page.

Please go right ahead, chat between yourselves. I love to see living examples of 'quality time' unfold before me. I'm not sure why you didn't warn Goober about the dangers of the 'rating button' as some might abuse it by doing something akin to a drive-by.

Besides posting to anything that has your handle associated with it there is no stupidity involved. My stance on any topic I have covered has some form of back-up. Had I been drinking coffee when Dex chimed in his full support to the hijacking with box-cutters as advertised by the US Gov I certainly would have (and many many other people) been swapping out their keyboards.

So how many Jews died in the Holocaust? - Rough numbers would suffice - Not a long cut, paste as per Donkey Man - But approx numbers.