It Seems Impossible (Declaring the Holocaust a Myth)

[PoliticalNick]

With all respect to those who died and suffered in that war but this begs a question. If they survived for that long were the camps 'backlogged' or is it possible history has some parts in error?

Most of the camps were also work camps. Some had to be kept alive to work the farms to feed the army. Auswitz covered over 1100 acres of farmland. As long as you were selected to work and remained able to work and did not do anything but work you could remain alive.

For our detractor here is a video but please take 8-10 hours and go through a few of the videos and pictures available through a simple google search.

An Alfred Hitchcock documentary on the Nazi Holocaust

 

[MHz]

You couldn't convince a denier even if you had a time machine and brought him right there to see for himself...it's a hate for Jews that is unexplainable to a normal person.

Are you saying Benjamin Freedman is a liar? Prove it.
I would think the Jews need protection from the Rothschild clan rather than the ones who want to expose how they use and manipulated Jews to get what they wanted, at the expense of the loss of many lives.

 

[CDNBear]

Most of the camps were also work camps. Some had to be kept alive to work the farms to feed the army. Auswitz covered over 1100 acres of farmland. As long as you were selected to work and remained able to work and did not do anything but work you could remain alive.

For our detractor here is a video but please take 8-10 hours and go through a few of the videos and pictures available through a simple google search.

Nick, you're try to discuss something, with people that have no need of fact, evidence, documented history or reality for that matter.

As DaS said, you could go back in time with these people, throw a yellow star on them and drop them in a death camp, and they'd still deny it happened.

They simply hate Joos. Anything that might remotely disrupt that hate, is simply not true to them.

Are you saying Benjamin Freedman is a liar? Prove it.

Why do we always have to prove it, so when we do, you throw out red herrings and never concede to fact?

I would think the Jews need protection from the Rothschild clan rather than the ones who want to expose how they use and manipulated Jews to get what they wanted, at the expense of the loss of many lives.

Red herrings like that nonsense.

 

[DaSleeper]

Maybe someone could enlighten me, if it was Winston Churchil or someone else who predicted what is happening right now when he urged the allies to take as many photos as they could of the death camps because future generations would not believe what had just happened to the Jews. There is a quote somewhere but I can't find it....

Well it seems that even with all the pictures that were taken the deniers cannot be convinced so I will not try....It's like trying to have an oral argument with a deaf mute......

 

[Corduroy]

Here's a link as requested

holocaust - Google Search

 

[YukonJack]

While Hitler's Holocaust was indeed horrible, Stalin's holocaust of starving millions of Ukranians or the Turkish genocide of Armenians were just as horrible. Yet, those can be denied with impunity.

 

[MHz]

For our detractor here is a video but please take 8-10 hours and go through a few of the videos and pictures available through a simple google search.

This is a touchy subject, that doesn't mean it shouldn't be revised to reflect the facts. Who would have the best shot at the truth, somebody who wrote things from a personal perspective (with coaches) or a scholar who lived it and studied it for a decade after. Today we could relate it to 9/11, we have the 'official story' that is the same as when originally proposed and we have some athernate views that would seem to have some valid arguments against 9/11 being what is officially promoted. Further investigation might not be in the interest of the criminals if they have hopes of remaining hidden.
I've seen Alfred's work before, I'm quite willing to watch it again, any particular time stamps I should pay particular attention to?

In the meantime I hope you will take the time to review the two vids I linked to plus this one. Persecution and being targeted are not being questioned. Nor is it about the lives of a few Jews, both links already posted promote that both world wars were fought solely so a Jewish homeland could be created. That means the Rothschild plan included not only the deaths of millions of Jews but also very close to 100 million Gentiles. Which of the two would appear to be the most heinous of the two? How long before that is widely circulated before revolt made it to their doorstep, and should it require they 'retire to a quiet life in some out of the way place' rather than being taken to sea and tossed overboard. If a quakes that take a few 100,000 victims gets our sympathy what do we owe the 100,000,000 that directly gave up their lives and all their grandchildren are still paying off debts to those same people that the two wars rang up. Jews can squabble that Gentiles want an accurate account of who died and for what when the number they lost should want justice as much as the 100M would want it. Jews should be as wary of the Rothschild clan as anybody, maybe even more-so as their is a history of leaving the Jews holding the (empty) bag when the Gentiles revolt over banker's excessive usury practices.

YouTube - One Third of the Holocaust pt.1a

 

[earth_as_one]

My problem with the holocaust is all the agenda driven spin of this historical event.

Typically this event is portrayed as a Jewish only tragedy when it also affected millions of other people. IMO, non-Jewish deaths and suffering is just as important as Jewish deaths and suffering.

The Zionist state of Israel and their supporters use this crime against humanity to justify their crimes against humanity and stifle criticism of their heinous crimes.

Historians and anyone else who wants to know more about the holocaust should be able to conduct empirical research of this event without harassment.

People should be free to deny it happened. While that may be distasteful and disrespectful, its just as much free speech as distasteful and disrespectful cartoons of the Prophet Mohamed. No one should be locked up because they believe the holocaust never happened or drew a picture of Mohamed with a bomb in his turban. Lock people up when they start making threats, incite violence or promote discrimination.

 

[MHz]

Maybe someone could enlighten me, if it was Winston Churchil or someone else who predicted what is happening right now when he urged the allies to take as many photos as they could of the death camps because future generations would not believe what had just happened to the Jews. There is a quote somewhere but I can't find it....

Well it seems that even with all the pictures that were taken the deniers cannot be convinced so I will not try....It's like trying to have an oral argument with a deaf mute......

It woulds be more convincing (Hitchcock's is) if you didn't hang your case on some photo's you can't find. The vids being posted should cover the aspects you are trying to get proof of.

 

[DaSleeper]

It woulds be more convincing (Hitchcock's is) if you didn't hang your case on some photo's you can't find. The vids being posted should cover the aspects you are trying to get proof of.

You do have a reading problem:roll:....It's the quote that I can't find....the photos can be found with a simple google search...

 

[gerryh]

wallowing in the filth that the holocaust deniers are, is beyond me. Why give the useless pieces of skin the time of day or the satisfaction of knowing that someone is reading their bullshyte.

 

[DaSleeper]

wallowing in the filth that the holocaust deniers are, is beyond me. Why give the useless pieces of skin the time of day or the satisfaction of knowing that someone is reading their bullshyte.

You're absolutely right....I'm out of this one....If someone has the author of that quote I'm looking for let me know...

 

[MHz]

Woopsi my bad. However, not one link that would show your point, as graphic as the Hitchcock clips is why repeat the footage as if it was more bodies. Notice how skinny everybody is, that comes from long term hunger, how do you know those particular ones didn't die after Allied bombing raids cut off the food deliveries. The guards aren't going to give up their food and 6 million people didn't get moved like that.

wallowing in the filth that the holocaust deniers are, is beyond me..

Yet here you are, just a few hours after 'your side' resurrected the thread.

 

[PoliticalNick]

You're absolutely right....I'm out of this one..

Me too, if someone wants to believe it didn't happen they can.

Oh, and by the way, my friends mother and her family I reffered to earlier were not Jews, they were Catholic Germans who gave food and shelter to a family of Jews which earned them the same fate as those they assisted!

 

[MHz]

Well I only responded after it was brought back from the rabbit hole so I'm gone too.

 

[JLM]

Are you saying Benjamin Freedman is a liar? Prove it.
I would think the Jews need protection from the Rothschild clan rather than the ones who want to expose how they use and manipulated Jews to get what they wanted, at the expense of the loss of many lives.

"Freedman, an apostate Jew, was well known to the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee as an active supporter of the Arab cause in the Middle East. In the course of his erratic and often contradictory testimony before the Senate committee, Freedman revealed the roles played by anti-Semitic agitators and right-wing anticommunists — including Gerald L.K. Smith, Conde McGinley, the "Reverend" Wesley Swift, Congressman John Rankin, Senator Joseph McCarthy, and J.B. Matthews — in the campaign against the Rosenberg appointment."]

To the contrary I think the onus is on someone to prove he's not lying

 

[MHz]

Are you saying this attitude was extended to Judge Goldstone? "well known to the Anti-Defamation League and the American Jewish Committee as "
I was hoping for something a little more solid, like one of his statements is wrong and then some proof.
The print version might have the requested documents, since that part is never questioned I would have to assume they are authentic. Wiki is as detailed as it gets, He was not a hermit by any means and he had powerful friends. The man is attacked because the speech cannot be, that is why it still exists today. No speeding tickets acting on the info.