Israel's genocide of Palestine

[Praxius]

BULL****!!!

Absolute, complete and utter BULL****.

The claims are blatantly impossible, if you look at the stats I provided below.

You should check your facts, and your logic, before you start quoting what is nothing more than Jew-baiting lies.

SHAME on you.

Arab–Israeli conflict - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Both sides:
74,000 military deaths
18,000 civilian deaths
(1945–1995)

SHAME SHAME on you.

Kiss my shameless ***. This was a collective of deaths attributed to the conflicts since the start which are directly and indirectly related to military action, deprivation of basic medical supplies/aid, food, resources, etc. All of which could have been easily prevented in any other situation that didn't have a complete blockade around them and only Israel can approve of what they get and don't get from the outside world.


Shame on me?


Fk'n shame on you for obviously not reading the provided link, not reading the provided information in that link, not reading or confirming the sources in which that information was derived from.... And shame on you for dismissing it all so quickly by screaming bullsh*t and countering with a narrow statistic provided from wikipedia in a half azzed attempt in trying to trivialize and sweep under the rug information you simply don't want to see because it taints your precious view of your angelic and oh-so fk'n innocent Israelis.


How dare someone publically state something that doesn't shine a beacon of holy light up Israel's azz and portrays them as the evil little fk'tards they truly are.


You take a good hard look at that link I provided and see the correlation between the known facts and how they conflict with Geneva Convention rules.


By all means.... Refute away.


In the other threads in here, you and your buddies justify and excuse away all the civilian deaths at the hands of the Israelis and don't even seem to bat an eye when reports come in about children being murdered, bombed and terrorized. I also suppose it wasn't Israel's fault that UN shelter was shelled and that was just an accident.... That all these hundreds of civilians killed already in this recent conflict were all just accidents and not intentional despite Israel's best abilities with all their wonderful technology, intelligence gathering and weaponry to ensure they hit the right targets and avoid as many casualties as possible.


Because that's why they knock on the roofs of innocent civilians to "warn" them that their house is about to be destroyed regardless of any evidence of Hamas or weapons being inside. That sometimes they knock on their roofs but nothing happens afterwards just to fk with their minds.


.... And I suppose Israel wasn't dropping cluster bombs in the previous conflicts and into heavily civilian populated areas.... Or they weren't dropping white phosphorus either??


Yes, it all must be a global conspiracy against Israel. None of it can possibly be true.


After all, they're all WWII holocaust survivors.... They would never do such things.


Shame on you for being so god damn closed minded to any real factual evidence that may counter your Harper-esqe devotion towards Israel.

 

[gore0bsessed]

Ahhh...1970 to 2010 is 40 years, not 80 years.

And, to answer your question, OF COURSE it does, just like Life expectancy at birth means no genocide.

Does every anti-Israeli have to be an idiot??

another downward spike ahead?

 

[pgs]

Kiss my shameless ***. This was a collective of deaths attributed to the conflicts since the start which are directly and indirectly related to military action, deprivation of basic medical supplies/aid, food, resources, etc. All of which could have been easily prevented in any other situation that didn't have a complete blockade around them and only Israel can approve of what they get and don't get from the outside world.


Shame on me?


Fk'n shame on you for obviously not reading the provided link, not reading the provided information in that link, not reading or confirming the sources in which that information was derived from.... And shame on you for dismissing it all so quickly by screaming bullsh*t and countering with a narrow statistic provided from wikipedia in a half azzed attempt in trying to trivialize and sweep under the rug information you simply don't want to see because it taints your precious view of your angelic and oh-so fk'n innocent Israelis.


How dare someone publically state something that doesn't shine a beacon of holy light up Israel's azz and portrays them as the evil little fk'tards they truly are.


You take a good hard look at that link I provided and see the correlation between the known facts and how they conflict with Geneva Convention rules.


By all means.... Refute away.


In the other threads in here, you and your buddies justify and excuse away all the civilian deaths at the hands of the Israelis and don't even seem to bat an eye when reports come in about children being murdered, bombed and terrorized. I also suppose it wasn't Israel's fault that UN shelter was shelled and that was just an accident.... That all these hundreds of civilians killed already in this recent conflict were all just accidents and not intentional despite Israel's best abilities with all their wonderful technology, intelligence gathering and weaponry to ensure they hit the right targets and avoid as many casualties as possible.


Because that's why they knock on the roofs of innocent civilians to "warn" them that their house is about to be destroyed regardless of any evidence of Hamas or weapons being inside. That sometimes they knock on their roofs but nothing happens afterwards just to fk with their minds.


.... And I suppose Israel wasn't dropping cluster bombs in the previous conflicts and into heavily civilian populated areas.... Or they weren't dropping white phosphorus either??


Yes, it all must be a global conspiracy against Israel. None of it can possibly be true.


After all, they're all WWII holocaust survivors.... They would never do such things.


Shame on you for being so god damn closed minded to any real factual evidence that may counter your Harper-esqe devotion towards Israel.

I will stick with my governments stance thank you .
That Israel has a moral obligation to protect its citizens and defend its territory .


with respect to your comments on phosphorous and cluster bombs ,.
If Israel desired they could light up Palestine so bad that the fire bombing of Dresdin or Toyko would look like a friendly campfire .
The fact that they don't is telling .

 

[Praxius]

So what excuse will it be this time? Will the excuse be that the "Terrorists" are hiding within the civilians and thus forcing Israel to blow them all up?


#1 - that's no excuse to blow up civilians especially when you hold the technological and military superiority in the war.


#2 - Nobody has anywhere to go. There are so many people crammed into this little ghetto, completely walled in, the sea locked off and bombs & shells hitting everywhere, including UN sanctuaries, it's more like shooting fish in a barrel with a shotgun.


..... And I don't suppose it was Israel's fault for blowing up that UN base that killed a Canadian peacekeeper a few years back.


Israelis ignored repeated warnings before killing UN observers
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/jul/27/syria.israel4


Israel doesn't give a sh*t about anybody or anything and will say anything to apease their supporters so they can keep the money and equipment flowing so they can continue their genocide.

 

[pgs]

another downward spike ahead?

The smart ones are moving to Calgary or anywhere else that will take them .

 

[petros]

My Govt supports killing children?

 

[MHz]

Quote: Originally Posted by Colpy;1952485
Now, as for your comparison:

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1933: 9 million Jews in Europe, 18 million world wide.[/B]
1945: 3 million Jews in Europe, 12 million worldwide.

Now THAT'S a genocide.

Actually when you go over the population growth of Jews from 18180 you will see that about 6M were born above what was the normal birth-rate for them.

2.4.  European and Foreign Country Population Data
2.4.* European and Foreign Country Population Data

1800 = 2,500
1840 = 4,500 +2,000 40 yrs
1880 = 7,738 +3,238 40 years
1900 = 11,000 +3,262 20 years
1914 = 13,500 +2,500 14 years
1938 = 16,600 +2,500 24 years
1948 = 11,500 -5,100

 

[pgs]

My Govt supports killing children?

I don't believe they do . I don't believe the Israelis do either .

 

[petros]

I don't believe they do . I don't believe the Israelis do either .

What have they done to stop it?

 

[gore0bsessed]

I will stick with my governments stance thank you .
That Israel has a moral obligation to protect its citizens and defend its territory .

What about their moral obligation to their innocent civilian neighbours?

with respect to your comments on phosphorous and cluster bombs ,.
If Israel desired they could light up Palestine so bad that the fire bombing of Dresdin or Toyko would look like a friendly campfire .
The fact that they don't is telling .

They don't do it because there would be a severe international condemnation not because they're empathetic.

 

[darkbeaver]

I don't believe they do . I don't believe the Israelis do either .

Then who killed the children?

 

[MHz]

Would Christians of the have offered up an Israel to Jews if they knew they'd be like this?

Sure, Christians are quite comfortable with the Indian Reservations we have had for 100 years in Canada and there are no plans to get rid of them in the next 100 years so why would Israel doing to Gaza that is less than we did to the Indian children bother us?
Why do you think Israel had us drop out of all the UN human rights groups?

 

[Praxius]

I will stick with my governments stance thank you .
That Israel has a moral obligation to protect its citizens and defend its territory .


with respect to your comments on phosphorous and cluster bombs ,.
If Israel desired they could light up Palestine so bad that the fire bombing of Dresdin or Toyko would look like a friendly campfire .
The fact that they don't is telling .

It's telling of jack and sh*t.... And Jack left town.


The only reason they don't wipe them all out at once is again, because they want to try and keep a semi decent public image up front for their supporters and funders. They still want to keep that "Democracy" and "Freedom" image going for as long as possible..... Which they are neither.


None of this excuses their current or their long term actions over the decades. You parrot the same old sh*t like everybody else.


They have a right to defend themselves.


That's not an excuse to ignore the Geneva Convention and it's still not an excuse to freely murder and kill innocent civilians who have nowhere else to go.


That's no excuse to blow up UN compounds and sanctuaries nor is it am excuse to kill UN peacekeepers.


You people can't even properly acknowledge that innocent men, women and children are being killed and maimed by the hands of Israel.... You just brush it all off and cover it over with a big rubber stamp stating "They have a right to defend themselves."


Hamas cooperated with Israel and provided them with the information they needed to track down those kids in order to stop the situation from getting out of hand like it did. Then Israel found the kids killed by people who had no direct affiliation to Hamas and thus, not controlled by Hamas.


Rather than Israel tracking these guys down or asking Hamas to help bring them to justice like any other civilized society would do, Israel used this as an excuse, they blamed Hamas for their deaths even with no direct evidence or known proof that they had anything to do with it and despite Hamas trying to help them in the first place..... And then Israel started blowing things up.


Hamas then retaliated.


Israel created this mess like they created all of the past ones while finger pointing at Palestinians. Yet you want me to believe Israel is just defending themselves this time around?


Palestinians are the ones trying to defend themselves.... Israel made the first strike over the excuse of a criminal kidnapping and murder of some kids.


Other "Free and Democratic" societies in the world would have gone after the criminals and brought them to justice rather than starting a friggin war.


This was all just another excuse for Israel to take the Palestinian population down a notch or two and to keep the people shell shocked and oppressed. In such a small area with such a large population, Israel needs an easy way of maintaining their population and keeping them in check with their limited medical supplies, food, fresh water and living spaces.


kill them off a bit for target practice and to keep them down. When they start to build back up again, they just pick up the ant farm and shake it around some more.


Even figure heads within Israel have publically called for the genocide of the Palestinians.... And quite recently too.


So don't give me that horsesh*t about Israel merely defending themselves.

 

[petros]

Hamas cooperated with Israel and provided them with the information they needed to track down those kids in order to stop the situation from getting out of hand like it did. Then Israel found the kids killed by people who had no direct affiliation to Hamas and thus, not controlled by Hamas

I've been trying to educate them on the Qawsamehs but that just doesn't sink in. Even Shin Bet is at odds with Nutlessyahud blaming Hamas. Why?

 

[lone wolf]

How can Israel fly into Entebbe and do a surgical strike, killing only those they targeted but they can't go next door without knocking the house down?

 

[MHz]

How is taking over Gaza NG fields protecting Israeli citizens? Seems more like the work of a common criminal using force to get when the Law doesn't support their desires.
with respect to your comments on phosphorous and cluster bombs ,.
If Israel desired they could light up Palestine so bad that the fire bombing of Dresdin or Toyko would look like a friendly campfire .
The fact that they don't is telling .

How is taking over Gaza NG fields protecting Israeli citizens? Seems more like the work of a common criminal using force to get when the Law doesn't support their desires.
The fact they do it on any scale puts their mental state as being completely insane. Just like the Americans and British that firebombed Dresden. A crime in the eyes of many, that you see it as a glorious campaign pretty much show you to be somewhat less than human.

 

[pgs]

What about their moral obligation to their innocent civilian neighbours?


They don't do it because there would be a severe international condemnation not because they're empathetic.

The ones sending rockets at them ?

 

[petros]

The ones sending rockets at them ?

The Qawsamehs?

 

[pgs]

It's telling of jack and sh*t.... And Jack left town.


The only reason they don't wipe them all out at once is again, because they want to try and keep a semi decent public image up front for their supporters and funders. They still want to keep that "Democracy" and "Freedom" image going for as long as possible..... Which they are neither.


None of this excuses their current or their long term actions over the decades. You parrot the same old sh*t like everybody else.


They have a right to defend themselves.


That's not an excuse to ignore the Geneva Convention and it's still not an excuse to freely murder and kill innocent civilians who have nowhere else to go.


That's no excuse to blow up UN compounds and sanctuaries nor is it am excuse to kill UN peacekeepers.


You people can't even properly acknowledge that innocent men, women and children are being killed and maimed by the hands of Israel.... You just brush it all off and cover it over with a big rubber stamp stating "They have a right to defend themselves."


Hamas cooperated with Israel and provided them with the information they needed to track down those kids in order to stop the situation from getting out of hand like it did. Then Israel found the kids killed by people who had no direct affiliation to Hamas and thus, not controlled by Hamas.


Rather than Israel tracking these guys down or asking Hamas to help bring them to justice like any other civilized society would do, Israel used this as an excuse, they blamed Hamas for their deaths even with no direct evidence or known proof that they had anything to do with it and despite Hamas trying to help them in the first place..... And then Israel started blowing things up.


Hamas then retaliated.


Israel created this mess like they created all of the past ones while finger pointing at Palestinians. Yet you want me to believe Israel is just defending themselves this time around?


Palestinians are the ones trying to defend themselves.... Israel made the first strike over the excuse of a criminal kidnapping and murder of some kids.


Other "Free and Democratic" societies in the world would have gone after the criminals and brought them to justice rather than starting a friggin war.


This was all just another excuse for Israel to take the Palestinian population down a notch or two and to keep the people shell shocked and oppressed. In such a small area with such a large population, Israel needs an easy way of maintaining their population and keeping them in check with their limited medical supplies, food, fresh water and living spaces.


kill them off a bit for target practice and to keep them down. When they start to build back up again, they just pick up the ant farm and shake it around some more.


Even figure heads within Israel have publically called for the genocide of the Palestinians.... And quite recently too.


So don't give me that horsesh*t about Israel merely defending themselves.

Good I'll start sending rockets down on Melbourne from Bora Bora .
See how long it will be before you start whining over the poor Bora Bora children .
Especially when one of those rockets blows away your wife and son .

 

[MHz]

If you lost a wife and son I'll start a fund to get you over there so you can revenge those deaths.
Hamas rockets don't come with warheads so it must of been an accident by Israel which they will deny, like always.