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Well appears Turkey will put boots on the ground.
The area around Kobani was always dominated by Kurds. Turkey may use this area for displaced Syrians and change the demographics in their favor.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/w...es-bid-to-expand-military-role.html?ref=world
The Turkish government sought a mandate from Parliament on Tuesday to expand cross-border military operations into Iraq and Syria, signaling that it will play a more active role in a United States-led international military campaign to combat Islamic State militants.
Parliament will vote this week on a comprehensive motion that would authorize Turkish troops to make incursions into Syria and Iraq, and allow foreign military forces to use Turkish military bases, Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said after a cabinet meeting on Tuesday.
“We have worked out and prepared a document uniting two separate motions on Iraq and Syria, enabling all necessary measures at one time, so as to respond to all threats and risks,” Mr. Arinc said. The new measure is an extension of the current law, which will expire in a matter of days.
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Until now, Turkey, a NATO member that shares a 560-mile border with Syria, has hesitated to take an active military role at the front lines of the battle against the Islamic State, which is also known as ISIS. The government fears strengthening its staunch opponent, President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, as well as Kurdish separatists in southeastern Turkey.
Then we have this.
Ancient Tomb May Determine Turkey's Role in IS Fight
ISTANBUL—
A vow to defend the 700-year-old tomb of Suleyman Shah, grandfather of the founder of the Ottoman Empire, in a Turkish enclave in northern Syria could decide Turkey's role in the military campaign against Islamic State militants.
Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said on Tuesday that the militants were advancing on the white stone mausoleum, guarded by several dozen Turkish soldiers and perched on a manicured lawn under a Turkish flag on the banks of the Euphrates.
The tomb was made Turkish territory under a treaty signed with France in 1921, when France ruled Syria. Ankara regards it as sovereign territory and has repeatedly made clear that it will defend the mausoleum if it is attacked.
ISTANBUL—
A vow to defend the 700-year-old tomb of Suleyman Shah, grandfather of the founder of the Ottoman Empire, in a Turkish enclave in northern Syria could decide Turkey's role in the military campaign against Islamic State militants.
Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said on Tuesday that the militants were advancing on the white stone mausoleum, guarded by several dozen Turkish soldiers and perched on a manicured lawn under a Turkish flag on the banks of the Euphrates.
The tomb was made Turkish territory under a treaty signed with France in 1921, when France ruled Syria. Ankara regards it as sovereign territory and has repeatedly made clear that it will defend the mausoleum if it is attacked.
And not far from the Turkish border.
The area around Kobani was always dominated by Kurds. Turkey may use this area for displaced Syrians and change the demographics in their favor.
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/w...es-bid-to-expand-military-role.html?ref=world
The Turkish government sought a mandate from Parliament on Tuesday to expand cross-border military operations into Iraq and Syria, signaling that it will play a more active role in a United States-led international military campaign to combat Islamic State militants.
Parliament will vote this week on a comprehensive motion that would authorize Turkish troops to make incursions into Syria and Iraq, and allow foreign military forces to use Turkish military bases, Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said after a cabinet meeting on Tuesday.
“We have worked out and prepared a document uniting two separate motions on Iraq and Syria, enabling all necessary measures at one time, so as to respond to all threats and risks,” Mr. Arinc said. The new measure is an extension of the current law, which will expire in a matter of days.
Continue reading the main story
Related Coverage
Until now, Turkey, a NATO member that shares a 560-mile border with Syria, has hesitated to take an active military role at the front lines of the battle against the Islamic State, which is also known as ISIS. The government fears strengthening its staunch opponent, President Bashar al-Assad of Syria, as well as Kurdish separatists in southeastern Turkey.
Then we have this.
Ancient Tomb May Determine Turkey's Role in IS Fight
ISTANBUL—
A vow to defend the 700-year-old tomb of Suleyman Shah, grandfather of the founder of the Ottoman Empire, in a Turkish enclave in northern Syria could decide Turkey's role in the military campaign against Islamic State militants.
Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said on Tuesday that the militants were advancing on the white stone mausoleum, guarded by several dozen Turkish soldiers and perched on a manicured lawn under a Turkish flag on the banks of the Euphrates.
The tomb was made Turkish territory under a treaty signed with France in 1921, when France ruled Syria. Ankara regards it as sovereign territory and has repeatedly made clear that it will defend the mausoleum if it is attacked.
ISTANBUL—
A vow to defend the 700-year-old tomb of Suleyman Shah, grandfather of the founder of the Ottoman Empire, in a Turkish enclave in northern Syria could decide Turkey's role in the military campaign against Islamic State militants.
Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc said on Tuesday that the militants were advancing on the white stone mausoleum, guarded by several dozen Turkish soldiers and perched on a manicured lawn under a Turkish flag on the banks of the Euphrates.
The tomb was made Turkish territory under a treaty signed with France in 1921, when France ruled Syria. Ankara regards it as sovereign territory and has repeatedly made clear that it will defend the mausoleum if it is attacked.
And not far from the Turkish border.
Big red for you Walter, Christmas was the day May conceived Jesus, 9 months later He was born in Sept. Most holy day the world has known so far, the seed of Eve in Ge:3:15 was born. Stop speaking of things you know nothing about. (that felt rather good, lol)
Kurdish female fighter ‘killed herself’ to avoid being ISIS hostage
Ceylan Ozalp, 19, was reportedly surrounded by ISIS fighters near the Syrian Kurdish city of Kobane. (Couresty of the BBC)
A Syrian Kurdish female combatant, who appeared on a BBC report in September, shot herself with a last bullet during fighting with militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) last week, according to media reports.
Ceylan Ozalp, 19, was reportedly surrounded by ISIS fighters near the Syrian Kurdish city of Kobane also known as Ain al-Arab. After she run out of ammunition Ozalp said “goodbye” over the radio and spent her last bullet on killing herself.
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http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...lled-herself-to-avoid-being-ISIS-hostage.html
Ceylan Ozalp, 19, was reportedly surrounded by ISIS fighters near the Syrian Kurdish city of Kobane. (Couresty of the BBC)
A Syrian Kurdish female combatant, who appeared on a BBC report in September, shot herself with a last bullet during fighting with militants of the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) last week, according to media reports.
Ceylan Ozalp, 19, was reportedly surrounded by ISIS fighters near the Syrian Kurdish city of Kobane also known as Ain al-Arab. After she run out of ammunition Ozalp said “goodbye” over the radio and spent her last bullet on killing herself.
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http://english.alarabiya.net/en/New...lled-herself-to-avoid-being-ISIS-hostage.html
Every war starts with lies.
Is Former Israeli IDF Officer Behind Fake Videos of Beheadings?
F. William Engdahl (NEO) : Forensic medicine is not my specialty but certain things are so obvious they beg common sense questions from journalists. The infamous youTube “beheading” videos of two US journalists by the ISIS in Syria/Iraq, aka IS or Daash or Al Qaeda in Iraq depending on your preference in particular bear more serious attention. The details are emerging that show both videos are entirely fake events, staged apparently by professional actors to create the popular support for a US bombing of Syria to finally depose the democratically-elected Bashar al Assad.
Both videos when viewed are strangely similar. In both, a black-hooded executioner, nicknamed in the British press as “Jihadi John” for his strong London accent (!), supposedly takes a sharp knife to the throat of a kneeling, orange-clad James Foley and Steve Sotloff. Then, curiously, Jihadi John begins ostensibly slashing the throats of each, not once, but six times….not a drop of blood. Both Foley and Sotloff bravely kneel, head upright, no knee-jerk avoidance reaction one would expect. Then, just when the heads should be severed, in each, there is a blackout. Next scene: body on ground, head sitting atop. Professionally staged. Look for yourself.Is Former Israeli IDF Officer Behind Fake Videos of Beheadings? | nsnbc international
Lots of people want war and have plenty of able armchair warrior generals to win it all:
When you don't correct mistakes they are bound to be repeated. I guess being totally delusioned is better than being dragged along kicking and screaming.
NATION OF LIES: Purposeful Division (Part 1/7) - YouTube
NATION OF LIES: Purposeful Division (Part 1/7) - YouTube
8 K from Baghdad airport and with manpads.
Wonder when the Iranians will put more troops- armor on the ground.
http://rt.com/news/195072-baghdad-airport-isis-manpads/
Islamic State’s offensive on the Iraqi capital intensified as the jihadist fighters advanced as far as Abu Ghraib, a suburb only 8 miles away from Baghdad’s international airport.
The outer suburb of Abu Ghraib is also the site of the infamous prison the US military used to humiliate and torture Iraqi detainees.
There are reports by the Iraqi military that the militants are in possession of MANPAD anti-aircraft missiles. The short-range, shoulder-fired missiles can shoot down airplanes within a range of 15,000 feet.
The Iraqi military, aided by US military personnel, have so far failed in foiling the advance toward Baghdad of the Islamic State militia (also known as ISIS, or ISIL), which has expanded its control of huge swathes of Iraq and Syria despite the increase in US-led airstrikes.
It used to be that lying got politicians into trouble. For Vice President Joe Biden, it’s truth-telling that causes a stir.
The latest furor started after he spoke at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government last Thursday. Mr. Biden said American allies including Turkey, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates had extended unconditional financial and logistical support to Sunni fighters trying to oust the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad.
“Our allies poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against al-Assad,” he said, including jihadists planning to join the Nusra Front and Al Qaeda.
Mr. Biden also confided that Turkey’s “President Erdogan told me — he is an old friend — “‘You were right. We let too many people through. Now we are trying to seal the border.’”
There is little doubt that his basic facts are accurate, confirmed by news reports in The Times and other media and by Western officials. Yet Mr. Biden was forced to officially apologize to Turkey late Saturday after Mr. Erdogan demanded it. He issued another apology on Sunday after the United Arab Emirates also took umbrage.
“The vice president apologized for any implication that Turkey or other allies and partners in the region had intentionally supplied or facilitated the growth of ISIL or other violent extremists in Syria,” Mr. Biden’s spokeswoman said.
Mr. Biden, who may run for president in 2016, has a reputation for unvarnished pronouncements. In 2012 he caused a ruckus when, during a television interview, he endorsed same-sex marriage before President Obama did. The timing may have been impolitic but his position was the right one.
In the current instance, Mr. Biden should have exercised some restraint and not publicly shared his conversation with President Erdogan. But the basic truth — that Turkey and other countries enabled Islamic State and other extremists — can’t be wished away.
The United States, Turkey, Qatar, the U.A.E. and other countries in the region have a mutual need to work together to counter ISIS or ISIL. That means owning up to the mistakes that have allowed the group to flourish and correcting them, including shutting down Turkey as a transit corridor for ISIS revenue, weapons and foreign fighters.
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/joe-biden-apologizes-for-telling-the-truth
The latest furor started after he spoke at Harvard University’s John F. Kennedy School of Government last Thursday. Mr. Biden said American allies including Turkey, Qatar and the United Arab Emirates had extended unconditional financial and logistical support to Sunni fighters trying to oust the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad.
“Our allies poured hundreds of millions of dollars and tens of thousands of tons of weapons into anyone who would fight against al-Assad,” he said, including jihadists planning to join the Nusra Front and Al Qaeda.
Mr. Biden also confided that Turkey’s “President Erdogan told me — he is an old friend — “‘You were right. We let too many people through. Now we are trying to seal the border.’”
There is little doubt that his basic facts are accurate, confirmed by news reports in The Times and other media and by Western officials. Yet Mr. Biden was forced to officially apologize to Turkey late Saturday after Mr. Erdogan demanded it. He issued another apology on Sunday after the United Arab Emirates also took umbrage.
“The vice president apologized for any implication that Turkey or other allies and partners in the region had intentionally supplied or facilitated the growth of ISIL or other violent extremists in Syria,” Mr. Biden’s spokeswoman said.
Mr. Biden, who may run for president in 2016, has a reputation for unvarnished pronouncements. In 2012 he caused a ruckus when, during a television interview, he endorsed same-sex marriage before President Obama did. The timing may have been impolitic but his position was the right one.
In the current instance, Mr. Biden should have exercised some restraint and not publicly shared his conversation with President Erdogan. But the basic truth — that Turkey and other countries enabled Islamic State and other extremists — can’t be wished away.
The United States, Turkey, Qatar, the U.A.E. and other countries in the region have a mutual need to work together to counter ISIS or ISIL. That means owning up to the mistakes that have allowed the group to flourish and correcting them, including shutting down Turkey as a transit corridor for ISIS revenue, weapons and foreign fighters.
http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/06/joe-biden-apologizes-for-telling-the-truth
Nor should they be. The ones that helped get them where they are are just as bad if not worse as ISIS is taking direction from others rather than being a force unto itself (homegrown) . Nor am I saying that women haven been raped and the 'allowed to escape' or put to death so they couldn't be a witness or as an example to other people in the area. To say that ISIS is the only group that does it is niave at best. The solution in the West would be to take her statement and file charges and have a trial and then punishment. In Canada the Courts are equiped to handle that, over there not so much, the ICC (or similar) could certainly put her statement into a file with statements from many other women who have had similar experiences. With all the video that could be collected there might be a lineup they could be picked from and if one person could have 10 such recordings then his movements could be plotted as to time/location/event. The ability to do that exists today, the will and the money to do it isn't there and money is a bad excuse at best, especially the part about it being in short supply.
Why has nobody mentioned the marriage before the rape part as being worth further investigation? If this story happened in the Ukraine where some foregn fighter came in and raped a 14 year old girl after making her marry him and then after the war he spent the next 60 years living as her husband and father to their children etc happy ever after ending. In a society where meing a virgin at the wedding doesn't have clauses that escuses rapes (or horse riding accidents) so she won't be marrying up the social ladder and just became the NA adult chid who never left the basement, not by choice but because society sees her as being worthless. In the wild west if a woman was raped by an Indian the reaction was the same and in 'some cases' the potential captive was killed so the rape couldn't happen. The wild west was a Christian movement.
You only find the same story at the 'usual haunts', if it is still making headlines a week from now then it is based on facts, if it dies away and nothing like it surfaces then it is for drama alone. Drama with a specific agenda of connecting the bad taste in you mouth that the story shoul cause and then connect it to Muslims when war and rape and war brides have existed side by side since the time the OT covers.
If you want to wring out all there is about the article and the reactions to it then lets start with above theory, if there was captivity/marriage until death by old age/rape is that better or worse than captivity/rape/murder (discarded). Both qualify as 'bad' one qualifies to be worse that the other. By that rule it is as bad as it gets in my book. Use the 'news' button and I get nothing. The web button has more than 10 pages of returns.
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A top Pentagon general has informally rebranded the jihadists of Isis with the name “Daesh” after allies in the middle east asked he not use the group’s other monikers for fear they legitimize its ambitions of an Islamic state.
Lieutenant General James Terry almost exclusively used Daesh in reference to the militants at a press conference Thursday, although the Pentagon’s policy to primarily use “Isil” – an acronym for “the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant” – has not changed.
Terry, who leads US operations against Isis in Iraq, said partners in the region had asked him not to use the terms Islamic State, Isil or Isis (the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria).
Secretary of state John Kerry has also shifted his language in recent weeks, using Daesh 16 times and Isil only twice during remarks to Nato counterparts in Belgium. Retired general John Allen, the US envoy to coordinate the coalition against Isis, also prefers Daesh. French president Francois Hollande has used Daesh interchangeably with the group’s other names.
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US general rebrands Isis 'Daesh' after requests from regional partners | World news | The Guardian