Is this any logical science of NASA?

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Is this any logical science of NASA?

They now say: the north polar cap of Mars is composed of water ice. OK
And they add: the south polar cap is composed of CO2!
Why is this? Can this be any logical?

Moreover, they say the atmosphere of Mars is very thin 1% of the Earth atmosphere, but even it carries the cloud and the sandstorm?

They see the seasonal variations in the images of some gullies on Mars, and they say it indicates flowing water, and then they ignore this and say: no flowing water on Mars.

They see the melting of Martian caps in their summers of the north and south hemispheres of Mars, then say: no flowing water!

So what's all this contradiction?
And if they see such seasonal variations, why don't they investigate this point and go to places where such flowing water is most probable?

Unless, they deliberately conceal many facts about Mars related to the existence of flowing free water and of life on Mars.
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How could it be there is such extensive polar cup in the north composed of water ice, and that there is very trivial amount of oxygen? While water is a combination of hydrogen and oxygen.

While I am convinced completely that:
>> The atmosphere of Mars is clear and nice.
>> Oxygen is ample.
>> Flowing water is available.
>> Atmospheric pressure may be slightly more than our atmosphere on Earth.
>> Plant, animal and man of Mars (with similarity and some varying from that on Earth) do exist in large number.

If man will go (as do they plan) will find the circumstances OK, and they know this, or else why do they plan such journeys and work with zeal to send this large number of rovers and tools to Mars, in spite of their economic crisis?

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Quran 5: 60, which means:
{60. Say [Mohammedd]: "Shall I tell you [Jews] about something worse than that [you mock at, of our religion]e – concerning a reward from God [that will be for us?f]
They are those [your ancestors and you] whom God cursed g, and His wrath was kindled against them h,
and He made out of their [dead bodies] the apes and swines] i [in Palestine, after the coming of Nabuchodonosor],
and [those who] served the Taghoot: the tyrant [: Nabuchodonosor, and Pharaoh before him.] j
Those [who served Baal and Astaroth] are [today] worst in abode and farthest [than others] astray from the right way."}
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d To these Jews who mocked your prayers and denied your belief.
e Because we believe in God alone and we do not associate anything with Him.
f And we will not have evil as do you claim, but the evil will be for you and your ancestors who associated with God, and worshipped the calf, Baal, and Astaroth.
g i.e. God shifted them away from His mercy, and humiliated them.
h Because of their disbelieving and worshipping the idols.
i i.e. He created the apes and swines, in the country of Palestine, out of their dead corpses, and that was after the event of Nabuchodonosor.
j i.e. God caused them to be slaves of Nabuchodonosor who enslaved them for seventy years, as had Pharaoh enslaved them for two hundred years. This is in the in the life of the World; while in the Next Life, the spirits of the associaters and idolaters among them serve the devils in the Barzakh world (or the spirit world or the afterlife world.)
 
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Quran 5: 60, which means:
{60. Say [Mohammedd]: "Shall I tell you [Jews] about something worse than that [you mock at, of our religion]e – concerning a reward from God [that will be for us?f]
They are those [your ancestors and you] whom God cursed g, and His wrath was kindled against them h,
and He made out of their [dead bodies] the apes and swines] i [in Palestine, after the coming of Nabuchodonosor],
and [those who] served the Taghoot: the tyrant [: Nabuchodonosor, and Pharaoh before him.] j
Those [who served Baal and Astaroth] are [today] worst in abode and farthest [than others] astray from the right way."}
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d To these Jews who mocked your prayers and denied your belief.
e Because we believe in God alone and we do not associate anything with Him.
f And we will not have evil as do you claim, but the evil will be for you and your ancestors who associated with God, and worshipped the calf, Baal, and Astaroth.
g i.e. God shifted them away from His mercy, and humiliated them.
h Because of their disbelieving and worshipping the idols.
i i.e. He created the apes and swines, in the country of Palestine, out of their dead corpses, and that was after the event of Nabuchodonosor.
j i.e. God caused them to be slaves of Nabuchodonosor who enslaved them for seventy years, as had Pharaoh enslaved them for two hundred years. This is in the in the life of the World; while in the Next Life, the spirits of the associaters and idolaters among them serve the devils in the Barzakh world (or the spirit world or the afterlife world.)
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Someone wasn't paying much attention in science classes. Or else they grew up where some goofy religion controlled what was taught in the classes. It shows a pretty sad level of ignorance about science anyways.
 
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Someone wasn't paying much attention in science classes. Or else they grew up where some goofy religion controlled what was taught in the classes. It shows a pretty sad level of ignorance about science anyways.
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How much do you learn in Madrasa other than how to hate and envy? The concept of "science" itself is an athema to these stoneage throw backs.
 
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darkbeaver, NASA admits that the north pole of Mars consists of water ice, but says: the south pole consists of frozen CO2!
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NASA says a lot of stuff that isn't true. Why do you use the great Satans science slaves as a reliable source of science. Dust storms on Mars are the result of charge diffential and sheets of currentinteracting with charged dust particles. If you read at NASA you read evil works prepared for unsuspecting innocents. Thier engineering is very good though, but thier space and planetary physics is all big bang junk. IMO have a nice time EA
 
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darkbeaver said:
NASA says a lot of stuff that isn't true. Why do you use the great Satans science slaves as a reliable source of science. Dust storms on Mars are the result of charge diffential and sheets of currentinteracting with charged dust particles. If you read at NASA you read evil works prepared for unsuspecting innocents. Thier engineering is very good though, but thier space and planetary physics is all big bang junk. IMO have a nice time EA
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I shall take your advice, darky :smile:
I in fact don't pay attention to NASA or others; I only take it a pretext to explain about the Quran; that's it.
 
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I would use Venus, a planet mankind witnessed being born. Saturn Theory.

Third, Velikovsky rightly drew attention to the voluminous body of mythical traditions concerning the birth of the morning star. The spectacular ascent to heaven of the feathered serpent, Quetzalcoatl, in Aztec mythology, is a textbook example for this motif. However, Velikovsky hopelessly muddled the issue by force-fitting this mythical event into the 15th century BCE.

In reality, the birth of the morning star represents one of the final chapters in the global cycle of creation mythology. In the traditions of numerous cultures, the background to the story is the transfer of mythical beings such as gods and ancestors from their original home on the ‘earth’ into the sky, where they live on in the form of celestial bodies. When the protagonists of the myth were thus placed in the sky as stars and planets, the hitherto dark sky was for the first time illuminated and the process of creation reached completion. This episode bears a close relationship to the collapse of the polar column and is best evaluated on a par with the mythology of the axis mundi as a whole. It cannot be isolated from this narrative context.

In conclusion, Velikovsky’s conviction that Venus originated no earlier than 1500 BCE is untenable. Nevertheless, more robust than ever is the case that Venus has experienced a recent change in its orbit, however slight; that it featured a filamentary tail; and that its first appearance formed part of the complex chain of events anciently known as ‘creation.'

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darkbeaver said:
I would use Venus, a planet mankind witnessed being born. Saturn Theory.

Third, Velikovsky rightly drew attention to the voluminous body of mythical traditions concerning the birth of the morning star. The spectacular ascent to heaven of the feathered serpent, Quetzalcoatl, in Aztec mythology, is a textbook example for this motif. However, Velikovsky hopelessly muddled the issue by force-fitting this mythical event into the 15th century BCE.

In reality, the birth of the morning star represents one of the final chapters in the global cycle of creation mythology. In the traditions of numerous cultures, the background to the story is the transfer of mythical beings such as gods and ancestors from their original home on the ‘earth’ into the sky, where they live on in the form of celestial bodies. When the protagonists of the myth were thus placed in the sky as stars and planets, the hitherto dark sky was for the first time illuminated and the process of creation reached completion. This episode bears a close relationship to the collapse of the polar column and is best evaluated on a par with the mythology of the axis mundi as a whole. It cannot be isolated from this narrative context.

In conclusion, Velikovsky’s conviction that Venus originated no earlier than 1500 BCE is untenable. Nevertheless, more robust than ever is the case that Venus has experienced a recent change in its orbit, however slight; that it featured a filamentary tail; and that its first appearance formed part of the complex chain of events anciently known as ‘creation.'

Contributed by Rens Van der Sluijs
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The planets of our solar system, including Venus, Earth, Mars and the rest of the planets, were formed simultaneously, and their origin is the same; all of them were one planet or one earth, and this earth had been a sun, then it cooled in 3000 years and acquired a cold crust, then it burst into 9 pieces (the present earth and the other planets), and they being captured by the nearest sun to them, which was our present sun; and in this way the present solar system was formed, and in this way every solar system is formed.
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The planets of our solar system, including Venus, Earth, Mars and the rest of the planets, were formed simultaneously, and their origin is the same; all of them were one planet or one earth, and this earth had been a sun, then it cooled in 3000 years and acquired a cold crust, then it burst into 9 pieces (the present earth and the other planets), and they being captured by the nearest sun to them, which was our present sun; and in this way the present solar system was formed, and in this way every solar system is formed.
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And don't forget to add that there is life on Mars and Saturn, Jupiter, and Uranus aren't gas planets!
 
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Think I prefer the scientific answers. At least they'll keep checking and analyzing their results and findings, instead relying on a book that says the stars are Allah shooting demons.
 
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