Is the Illuminati Real

GL Schmitt

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jjw1965 said:

Pyramid at sunset, the Louvre. Paris, France complete with the 666 stained glass windows.

BOMP, BOMP, BOMP, BOMP!

Another one* bites the dust. :p



* Da Vinci Code errors that is.
 

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hey this isn't a real conspirisy because i think you will find most of you are low income earners and look at the world as not fair when infact it is very fair those who work hard AND smart or those whose parents worked hard and smart think its fair, where your parents worked hard but never went further trust me once you start earning real dollars you stop caring about money or why you can't do this or that cause you have to buy this thing or that thing you could be spending time working on your buissiness how can i stop spending this much time on this thing that doesn't earn me money work smart the money is irrelivent once you have it
 

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hey this isn't a real conspirisy because i think you will find most of you are low income earners and look at the world as not fair when infact it is very fair those who work hard AND smart or those whose parents worked hard and smart think its fair, where your parents worked hard but never went further trust me once you start earning real dollars you stop caring about money or why you can't do this or that cause you have to buy this thing or that thing you could be spending time working on your buissiness how can i stop spending this much time on this thing that doesn't earn me money work smart the money is irrelivent once you have it
Wow, I've never seen a new member go back to the first post on the entire board before......this should be fun. I think the ones at the lowest end might get a little mad at the ones who stopped printing money just at the same time they decided they had just the right amount. When us poor lose our money we don't head for the highest bridge.....unless we have a banker under each arm.
 

Ron in Regina

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Fattymallen, Welcome to Canadian Content Forums!!! If you look above
each post, you can see when that post was posted. You posted your first
post 30 minutes ago, and the last post before you on this Thread was
posted close to four years ago. There are much more current things
going on here....8O :lol::lol::lol:
 

Dexter Sinister

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No, the Illuminati are not real, it just looks like they are. It's a subtle sort of double-blind game they're playing to keep everyone off balance... uh, wait a minute here... 8O
 

In Between Man

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No, the Illuminati are not real, it just looks like they are. It's a subtle sort of double-blind game they're playing to keep everyone off balance... uh, wait a minute here... 8O

:lol:

I would have to agree that they are not real. Secret societies most certainly, maybe even some group calling themselves the Illuminati, but not controlling the world as the thread title would suggest.

Besides, everyone knows it's actually the free masons who are running everything.8O
 

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Religion is man trying to reach God, whereas Christianity is just the opposite--it is man responding to God's reaching out.

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Nice slogan. Is it from an ad campaign?
 

Free your mind

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WikiAnswers - Do the Illuminati exist

Yes, they do. They were founded after the first crusade after two vetrans came up with the idea people say they only wanted peace others say they wanted to control the world all we know is that they still exist and are the best warriors (even tho not the best known) ever and they protect the ark of convenant and the holy grail they are the most secretive group ever formed (so why do we know of them) because big battles aren't easy to hide.
 

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:lol:

I would have to agree that they are not real. Secret societies most certainly, maybe even some group calling themselves the Illuminati, but not controlling the world as the thread title would suggest.

Besides, everyone knows it's actually the free masons who are running everything.8O
Like the 5 banks would ever share power, lol. BTW why are they called free masons if they are somewhat sneaky in what they do, free just doesn't seem the best word to use or is that part of the (not very good) deception?
 

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Briefly, the background of the Bavarian Illuminati puzzle is this. On May 1, 1776, in Bavaria, Dr. Adam Weishaupt, a professor of Canon Law at Ingolstadt University and a former Jesuit, formed a secret society called the Order of the Illuminati within the existing Masonic lodges of Germany. Since Masonry is itself a secret society, the Illuminati was a secret society within a secret society, a mystery inside a mystery, so to say. In 1785 the Illuminati were suppressed by the Bavarian government for allegedly plotting to overthrow all the kings in Europe and the Pope to boot. This much is generally agreed upon by all historians. 1 Everything else is a matter of heated, and sometimes fetid, controversy.
It has been claimed that Dr. Weishaupt was an atheist, a Cabalistic magician, a rationalist, a mystic; a democrat, a socialist, an anarchist, a fascist; a Machiavellian amoralist, an alchemist, a totalitarian and an "enthusiastic philanthropist." (The last was the verdict of Thomas Jefferson, by the way.) The Illuminati have also been credited with managing the French and American revolutions behind the scenes, taking over the world, being the brains behind Communism, continuing underground up to the 1970s, secretly worshipping the Devil, and mopery with intent to gawk. Some claim that Weishaupt didn't even invent the Illuminati, but only revived it. The Order of Illuminati has been traced back to the Knights Templar, to the Greek and Gnostic initiatory cults, to Egypt, even to Atlantis. The one safe generalization one can make is that Weishaupt's intent to maintain secrecy has worked; no two students of Illuminology have ever agreed totally about what the "inner secret" or purpose of the Order actually was (or is . . .). There is endless room for spooky speculation, and for pedantic paranoia, once one really gets into the literature of the subject; and there has been a wave of sensational "ex-poses" of the Illuminati every generation since 1776. If you were to believe all this sensational literature, the damned Bavarian conspirators were responsible for everything wrong with the world, including the energy crises and the fact that you can't even get a plumber on weekends
Illuminati Conspiracy Part One: A Precise Exegesis on the Available Evidence
 

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Does it include these people?

N.M. Rothschild , London - Bank of England
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| J. Henry Schroder

| Banking | Corp.
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Brown, Shipley - Morgan Grenfell - Lazard - |
& Company & Company Brothers |
| | | |
--------------------| -------| | |
| | | | | |
Alex Brown - Brown Bros. - Lord Mantagu - Morgan et Cie -- Lazard ---|
& Son | Harriman Norman | Paris Bros |
| | / | N.Y. |
| | | | | |
| Governor, Bank | J.P. Morgan Co -- Lazard ---|
| of England / N.Y. Morgan Freres |
| 1924-1938 / Guaranty Co. Paris |
| / Morgan Stanley Co. | /
| / | \Schroder Bank
| / | Hamburg/Berlin
| / Drexel & Company /
| / Philadelphia /
| / /
| / Lord Airlie
| / /
| / M. M. Warburg Chmn J. Henry Schroder
| | Hamburg --------- marr. Virginia F. Ryan
| | | grand-daughter of Otto
| | | Kahn of Kuhn Loeb Co.
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| | |
Lehman Brothers N.Y -------------- Kuhn Loeb Co. N. Y.
| | --------------------------
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Lehman Brothers - Mont. Alabama Solomon Loeb Abraham Kuhn
| | __|______________________|_________
Lehman-Stern, New Orleans Jacob Schiff/Theresa Loeb Nina Loeb/Paul Warburg
------------------------- | | |
| | Mortimer Schiff James Paul Warburg
_____________|_______________/ |
| | | | |
Mayer Lehman | Emmanuel Lehman \
| | | \
Herbert Lehman Irving Lehman \
| | | \
Arthur Lehman \ Phillip Lehman John Schiff/Edith Brevoort Baker
/ | Present Chairman Lehman Bros
/ Robert Owen Lehman Kuhn Loeb - Granddaughter of
/ | George F. Baker
| / |
| / |
| / Lehman Bros Kuhn Loeb (1980)
| / |
| / Thomas Fortune Ryan
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Federal Reserve Bank Of New York |
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______National City Bank N. Y. |
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| National Bank of Commerce N.Y ---|
| | \
| Hanover National Bank N.Y. \
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| Chase National Bank N.Y. \
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Shareholders - National City Bank - N.Y. |
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| /
James Stillman /
Elsie m. William Rockefeller /
Isabel m. Percy Rockefeller /
William Rockefeller Shareholders - National Bank of Commerce N. Y.
J. P. Morgan -----------------------------------------------
M.T. Pyne Equitable Life - J.P. Morgan
Percy Pyne Mutual Life - J.P. Morgan
J.W. Sterling H.P. Davison - J. P. Morgan
NY Trust/NY Edison Mary W. Harriman
Shearman & Sterling A.D. Jiullard - North British Merc. Insurance
| Jacob Schiff
| Thomas F. Ryan
| Paul Warburg
| Levi P. Morton - Guaranty Trust - J. P. Morgan
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Even these are just the top of men, that is not the top because what they know they practice, they did not lean this on their own. Oppression is a learned art, they learned by example. This piece below is how the majority of men are kept in the dark about 'illusions' that always occur when there is such a thing as secrets (when dealing with the welfare of man) As soon as the door is closed the topic becomes how to best take advantage of those outside the closed doors.

THE SECRET COVENANT


An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their
perception.

Those who will see it will be thought of as insane.

We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the
connection between us.

We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive.

Our goal will be accomplished one drop at a time so as to never bring
suspicion upon ourselves.

This will also prevent them from seeing the changes as they occur.

We will always stand above the relative field of their experience
for we know the secrets of the absolute.

We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and
secrecy.

Death will come to he who speaks.

We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while
pretending to do the opposite.

We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle
ways so they will never see what is happening.

We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in
food and water, also in the air.

They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.

The soft metals will cause them to lose their minds.

We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will
feed them more poison.

The poisons will be absorbed trough their skin and mouths,
they will destroy their minds and reproductive systems.

From all this, their children will be born dead, and we
will conceal this information.

The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them,
in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

We must be ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they
can see far.

We will teach them that the poisons are good, with fun images
and musical tones.

Those they look up to will help.

We will enlist them to push our poisons.

They will see our products being used in film and will grow
accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood
of their children and convince them its for their help.

We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will
target their children with what children love most, sweet things.

When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals
that will kill their mind and steal their future.

When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create
medicine that will make them sicker and cause other diseases
for which we will create yet more medicine.

We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.

They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they
come to us for help, we will give them more poison.

We will focus their attention toward money and material goods
so they many never connect with their inner self.

We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and
games so they may never be one with the oneness of it all.

Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say.

If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering
technology into their lives.

We will use fear as our weapon.

We will establish their governments and establish opposites within.

We will own both sides.

We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.

They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper
from their toil.

Our families will never mix with theirs. Our blood must be pure
always, for it is the way.

We will make them kill each other when it suits us.

We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion.

We will control all aspects of their lives and tell them what
to think and how.

We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think they
are guiding themselves.

We will foment animosity between them through our factions.

When a light shall shine among them, we shall extinguish it by ridicule,
or death, whichever suits us best.

We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children.

We will accomplish this by using hate as our ally, anger as our friend.

The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that from
their conflicts we emerge as their rulers.

They will be busy killing each other.

They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long
as we see fit.

We will benefit greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they
cannot see us.

We will continue to prosper from their wars and their deaths.

We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is
accomplished.

We will continue to make them live in fear and anger
though images and sounds.

We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this.

The tools will be provided by their labor.

We will make them hate themselves and their neighbors.

We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one.
This they must never know!

They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always
think they are not equal.

Drop by drop, drop by drop we will advance our goal.

We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total
control over them.

We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little
freedom they will have.

We will establish a money system that will imprison them forever,
keeping them and their children in debt.

When they shall band together, we shall accuse them of crimes and
present a different story to the world for we shall own all the media.

We will use our media to control the flow of information and their
sentiment in our favor.

When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for
they are less than that.

They will be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.

We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will
promise them eternal life, but eternal life they will never have
for they are not of us.

The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated
to believe false rites of passage to higher realms.

Members of these groups will think they are one with us never
knowing the truth.

They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us.

For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and
great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us,
never will they receive the light and travel the stars.

They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of
their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment.

This they will never know.

The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not
be able to focus on it until its too late.

Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will
never know they are our slaves.

When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them
will own them.

This reality will be their prison.

They will live in self-delusion.

When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.

Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have
established from time immemorial.

But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then.
THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.

If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us,
they will take action.

They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do,
we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we
are once the veil has fallen.

Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down
and no person shall give us shelter.

This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our
present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many
generations and life spans.

This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from
heaven to earth came.

This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER
be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn
will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be
cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the
end time of infinity itself.


Author: Unknown

In this experiment if fallen angels are not part of your belief you have to stop at the highest level of plotting men and that could include 10 groups (bankers being just one) that are capable of doing the things listed in the covenant list. It is not race related it is based on a different set of parameters, liars would be an almost universal trait, greed for money, envy of persons (being envied rather than having envy themselves). Those traits can be found in all of mankind, no race has a monopoly or an absence of any of the traits that create a 'victim' (a person who is worse off for having met the illuminated ones)

 
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This topic was started in 2005. We'll have it figured out soon....I hope..;-)
 

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I can't even figure out how a person could find this particular thread as their first post.....is that the last time Illuminati have been mentioned?

They must be real, my spell-checker made me capitilize the (i).
 

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Have you looked under the fridge? That's where my wallet was.
And if you find a USA $1 note you will find the same All Seeing Eye Pyramid on it that the Rothshild family, at their own expense, built at the supreme court of Israel

coincidence