Absolutely ....................for the time it takes to deliver their message, but not to go tying it up if other people wish to use it!
Is Pepper Spray Humane In Breaking Up Protests
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Absolutely ....................for the time it takes to deliver their message, but not to go tying it up if other people wish to use it!
Therein lies the problem. They are entitled to use it for as long as they remain partial owners or basically forever. For example, if you go to a public beach and your favorite spot is taken you don't get to tell the people in it to move after lunch, you don't get to reserve the spot for tomorrow, you have to get there early or wait until that spot is empty. There is no 'its my turn' when it comes to public land or property. You may think there should be or want there to be but that is not how it is framed in the US constitution or the Canadian Charter.
There is more than the letter of the law at play here, it has a lot to do with establishing credibility and so far what they've mostly done is piss people off! :smile:
Frustration is more the word Nick. They have had plenty of time to deliver their message. They haven't really articulated what the problem is except to say the fat cats are fat through corrupt means. Everyone in the world knows that. People who don't have jobs and or rely on welfare are NOT the ones being ripped off by the fat cats. They can protest forever in the way they have been doing and the fat cats aren't going to change a thing. The biggest problem they are causing is cost taxpayers money having to deploy extra police, firemen etc.
The point is that decades of protest has got us nowhere with the establishment. It was decided to try a new tactic and that is to disrupt the flow, to cut off the supply the fat cats rely on - Wall Street. It is not so much a message. It is about disruption, hurt the pricks where it hurts most, their pocket books. What would really hurt more though, would be to shut down the system altogether: a general strike and a stop all shopping except for absolute necessities. They would have no choice but to listen. Do you think that would be doable? I doubt it after the display of stupidity on Black Friday and the fact that most people can't tell the difference between want and need..
nothing is humane in breaking up protests. If the protesters are within their rights, as they are 99% of the time, then f*** off and leave them alone.
Most protests are broken up because operatives come out dressed as anarchists and intentionally break the law giving a BS reason for the police to break up the protest. It's been caught several times. The Ottawa G20 protests, for example, it came out that it was the police dressed as anarchists. The G8-G20 protests in Toronto, you could see nike swooshes on the shoes of the supposed anarchists that were tipping cars etc. everybody knows a real anarchist wouldn't wear nike. all of them were 6'4 240 too. It was an obvious police attempt to stir the shyte pot and shut things down. We shouldn't tolerate that crap. The whole idea that they set up a "protest zone" when wherever the hell people want to protest should be the protests zone, ie the entire damn country, is also a disgrace.
dissent is the finest form of patriotism. we can't lose our right to protest these bastards even if some of the protests, ie the occupy movement, are completely stupid and co-opted by liberal moron think tanks.
Most protests are broken up because operatives come out dressed as anarchists and intentionally break the law giving a BS reason for the police to break up the protest. It's been caught several times. The Ottawa G20 protests, for example, it came out that it was the police dressed as anarchists. The G8-G20 protests in Toronto, you could see nike swooshes on the shoes of the supposed anarchists that were tipping cars etc. everybody knows a real anarchist wouldn't wear nike. all of them were 6'4 240 too. It was an obvious police attempt to stir the shyte pot and shut things down. We shouldn't tolerate that crap. The whole idea that they set up a "protest zone" when wherever the hell people want to protest should be the protests zone, ie the entire damn country, is also a disgrace.
dissent is the finest form of patriotism. we can't lose our right to protest these bastards even if some of the protests, ie the occupy movement, are completely stupid and co-opted by liberal moron think tanks.
They are against corporations. They would never wear something made in malaysia. I'm not an anarchist though, don't take my word for it, find one and ask them.
You would think all the taxpayer subsided training they get would include some anger-management classes. Perhaps some victim sensitivity training at the same time, that way they would treat the protesters in the proper light, as used and abused citizens.
You forgot having their Lear-jet fueled up an ready.
Thrift shops and UNICEF. After the West gets done wearing them we send them back via the Goodwill.
You just said it better than I ever could. Quit borrowing at high interest, quit spending money on cosmetic features, buy the Chev Biscayne, leave the Cadillacs in the showroom, anyway you know the procedure. I've said it a million times, the fat cats are NOT hurting anyone earning minimum wage or drawing welfare.
Anybody ever do a study to see how much more inexpensive it would be for both groups if shipping and delivery costs were eliminated?