Is Obama the worst president ever?

[DaSleeper]

Right. Same ol' Joey. Nothing new.

Yep, not two original ideas to rub together.....:lol::lol::lol:

Maybe we have all been wrong about Joey this past year...:lol:Like hell we have...
He is a very prolific poster....He can sure talk a lot...
He might have a lot to offer to this forum... Bloody hell he has...only If he took a long vacation
Some of you might think I've come up with something...Not if you can read between the lines
I have turned over a new leaf.....And seen a boat rat .. an aristocrat of a rat

 

[CDNBear]

Maybe we have all been wrong about Joey this past year...:lol:He is a very prolific poster....
He might have a lot to offer to this forum...
Some of you might think I've come up with something...
I have turned over a new leaf.....

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Speaking of 'Lame duck", how come we get a lame duck President on his first term? What is with you and Republicans, your a foreigner, you, democrats/republicans should mean nothing or very little to you. Now these guys are yours, how come we don't hear much about them?

What are you on about, ironsides? I never claimed that Obama is a lame duck president. Republicans may think that. If they do, they are seriously mistaken. Just recently he rolled the Republican minority leader Senator McConnell. After blustering repeatedly to filibuster the Wall Street reform bill, today he put his tail between his legs and said he is ready to negotiate. This after Obama blasted him for meeting with two dozen Wall Street executives and immediately after that threatening to filiibuster the bill in the senate.

Republicans consider Obama a lame duck president at thier peril.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

No question. About the only thing I will ever agree with you on. It was indeed Bush's watch.

Now if Obama can't fix it like he said he could...it will be on him.

I see. Bush took eight years to make the mess. If Obama cannot fix it completely in oen year, he is tried, convicted and executed? Obama is doing a stellar job of cleaning up the huge Bush mess, all the signs (including employment) are pointing to an economic recovery. If economy stays on this track for the next couple of years, Obama will be extremely difficult to beat in 2012.

Says who?

Says you (or at least you imply it).

When will you grow up. You act like a 12 year old.

That mature, eh? You flatter me,

 

[AnnaG]

That mature, eh? You flatter me,

No, he was exaggerating.

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I agree Bush was pretty awful, but to say Obama is doing a stellar job is uninformed.

Um, Daschie?
How many of G Dumbya's policies has Obama continued with?
How many of his have differed greatly from Bush's? Yet he downplays the differences.
Guantanamo?
He could have cited Dan Mitchell on how much mess he inherited from Bush to clarify things for people.
He could have pointed out how the Federal Reserve pretty much created the housing bubble.
He could have explained why his stimulus package is the appropriate answer to the economic crunch.
Apparently he's said nothing of Bush's big push on a huge, unfunded medicare expansion in 2003.
etc.
etc.
etc.

 

[JLM]

No, he was exaggerating.

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I agree Bush was pretty awful, but to say Obama is doing a stellar job is uninformed.

Um, Daschie?
How many of G Dumbya's policies has Obama continued with?
How many of his have differed greatly from Bush's? Yet he downplays the differences.
Guantanamo?
He could have cited Dan Mitchell on how much mess he inherited from Bush to clarify things for people.
He could have pointed out how the Federal Reserve pretty much created the housing bubble.
He could have explained why his stimulus package is the appropriate answer to the economic crunch.
Apparently he's said nothing of Bush's big push on a huge, unfunded medicare expansion in 2003.
etc.
etc.
etc.

I think you hit closer to the truth than a lot of people want to admit. To his credit he inherited a mess and I think he is trying to improve things to the best of his ability. But to face the facts, I doubt if he's really improved the health system, although he's probably "rearranged the deck chairs on the Titanic"...............some are getting better health care while other are either getting worse or paying more. The world economy is starting to straighten out so not sure how much credit he can claim there. Like Harper he's been bailing with taxpayer's money.

 

[gopher]

"Any thing Bush did, that was a masterstroke of diplomacy, a superb example of statesmanship. When Obama does the same thing, he is a Nazi, a Communist, a Fascist, a Muslim terrorist etc."


That's the way it is with these delusional right wingers. Not a shred of sense in anything they say but they love to repeat themselves.

 

[sombraa110]

mmmmm carter was a very bad president too

 

[theconqueror]

mmmmm carter was a very bad president too

I keep trying to tell them that Jimmy Carter allready owns that title. "Worst President" they have to pick another slogan I think.

"During his four years in the White House, he presided over the worst economic downturn since World War II, allowed a bunch of thugs to seize our embassy and our citizens, and supported Philippine dictator Fernando Marcos, Pakistani General Zia al Huq, Saudi King Faud and many other dictators. But Jimmy Carter was a much better president than he is an ex-president."

"In fact, Jimmy Carter holds the hands-down record for being the worst ex-president the United States has ever known."

 

[ironsides]

If the so called Messiah (Obama) has not change many of the Bush policies, how wrong could have Bush been.

 

[TenPenny]

"During his four years in the White House, he presided over the worst economic downturn since World War II, allowed a bunch of thugs to seize our embassy and our citizens, and supported Philippine dictator Fernando Marcos, Pakistani General Zia al Huq, Saudi King Faud and many other dictators.

Hmm, use those standards to look at GWBush: he outdid Carter, because he allowed a bunch of thugs to crash jets into buildings on US soil, killing thousands.

I think that tops the 'thugs seizing embassies' thing.

 

[DaSleeper]

Hmm, use those standards to look at GWBush: he outdid Carter, because he allowed a bunch of thugs to crash jets into buildings on US soil, killing thousands.

I think that tops the 'thugs seizing embassies' thing.

I was wondering when someone was gonna mention that.....even as a possible reason for his big deficit.....and the resulting war can sure do things to the national debt....non?

 

[YukonJack]

Gopher made the following remark:


"That's the way it is with these delusional right wingers. Not a shred of sense in anything they say but they love to repeat themselves."

about the following quote:

"Any thing Bush did, that was a masterstroke of diplomacy, a superb example of statesmanship. When Obama does the same thing, he is a Nazi, a Communist, a Fascist, a Muslim terrorist etc."

The 'delusional right winger' is none other than SirJosephPorter. (Post #203)




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[AnnaG]

"Any thing Bush did, that was a masterstroke of diplomacy, a superb example of statesmanship. When Obama does the same thing, he is a Nazi, a Communist, a Fascist, a Muslim terrorist etc."


That's the way it is with these delusional right wingers. Not a shred of sense in anything they say but they love to repeat themselves.

SJP must be a delusional right-winger then because he repeats stuff like that a lot. lol

 

[AnnaG]

I keep trying to tell them that Jimmy Carter allready owns that title. "Worst President" they have to pick another slogan I think.

"During his four years in the White House, he presided over the worst economic downturn since World War II, allowed a bunch of thugs to seize our embassy and our citizens, and supported Philippine dictator Fernando Marcos, Pakistani General Zia al Huq, Saudi King Faud and many other dictators. But Jimmy Carter was a much better president than he is an ex-president."

"In fact, Jimmy Carter holds the hands-down record for being the worst ex-president the United States has ever known."

Has anyone done a poll on the worst president since Obama took over? I bet good ol' G. Dumbya would be right up there.A ways back I posted a link to a "worst presidents" list:

The 10 Worst Presidents - US News and World Report (usnews.com)

Here's a link to the collection of polls Wikipedia gathered:

Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think it's not terribly intelligent and it is premature to judge Obama on how he did before he finished doing.

 

[JLM]

SJP must be a delusional right-winger then because he repeats stuff like that a lot. lol

You took the words right out of my mouth......:lol::lol:

 

[CDNBear]

You took the words right out of my mouth......:lol::lol:

I hope she washed them before she hung them on the wall in here...8O

 

[JLM]

Has anyone done a poll on the worst president since Obama took over? I bet good ol' G. Dumbya would be right up there.A ways back I posted a link to a "worst presidents" list:

The 10 Worst Presidents - US News and World Report (usnews.com)

Here's a link to the collection of polls Wikipedia gathered:

Historical rankings of Presidents of the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think it's not terribly intelligent and it is premature to judge Obama on how he did before he finished doing.

I don't want to p*ss on your parade Anna (or anyone else) but these polls about best/worst presidents are absolutely useless. What do you or I actually know about Millard Fillmore or Rutherford Hayes?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

mmmmm carter was a very bad president too

That is the problem. Republicans hate all the Democratic presidents with such visceral hatred that they have difficulty deciding who was the worst president ever. That is why Obama, Clinton, Carter, Kennedy etc. are the worst presidents ever, and Bush, Reagan, Nixon etc. are the best presidents ever. I don't think Republicans grade Democratic presidents as to who was the worst ever (nor do they grade Republican presidents as to who was the best ever).

Saying that one Democrat was the worst ever implies that others were not so bad (e.g. if Obama is the worst ever, that means that Carter or Clinton wasn't so bad). Or saying that one Republican was the best ever implies that others were not so good (e.g. if they claim that Bush was the best ever, that would imply that Reagan, Nixon etc. were not so good). We can't have that now, can we? That would be blasphemy.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

If the so called Messiah (Obama) has not change many of the Bush policies, how wrong could have Bush been.

But Bush wasn't wrong (if obama continued Bush's policies then he will be wrong), he was the best president ever, remember? Just as Obama (and Carter, Clinton etc.) is the worst president ever.