Is Obama a fraud?

darkbeaver

the universe is electric
Jan 26, 2006
41,035
201
63
RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia

A Message from Barac k:
Thank you for taking a look at this booklet.
I believe it’s critically important that those of
us who want to lead this nation be open, candid,
and clear with the American people about how
we will move forward. So I hope this booklet
gives you a good sense about where I stand on
the fundamental issues facing our country“
I am in this race to tell the corporate lobbyists
that their days of setting the agenda in
Washington are over. I have done more than
any other candidate in this race to take on
lobbyists – and won. They have not funded my
campaign, they will not get a job in my White
House, and they will not drown out the voices
of the American people when I am president.”
-- Barack Obama, Speech in Des Moines, IA, November 10, 2007

The man, and I use the term with deep reservations, is a consumate liar and displays nothing but contempt for the electorate, not a crime in the case of the American body, however the slick booklet is servile rubbish that has no bearing on reality. It's instructive to realise those same corporate lobbyist have just completed the power and asset grab of all time, Paulson is the President as of friday. Oblahblah is an actor Kreskin and a liar.
 

Kreskin

Doctor of Thinkology
Feb 23, 2006
21,155
149
63
Well he's been campaigning with basically the same consistent message for almost 2 years. He debated Hillary 21-ish times. He didn't just parachute in or get a quick pass to Go. He has fought his way to where he is through some tough campaigning. It appears you don't disagree with the message, you're just prepared to call him a liar. If he's a liar he's a damn good one. If cynicism is the only the standard of measurement then his incredible lying skills make him very experienced and ready for the position.
 

talloola

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 14, 2006
19,576
113
63
Vancouver Island
Not one terrorist attack on our soil since September 11, 2001.

So regardless of what the rest of the world thinks, and the entire "left", that is what is important.

Its understandable that so many people don't like Bush..its that "sheep" mentality that we are so often accused of...

Its fashionable to not like him, so why buck the trend, correct?

Mark this post, come back to it in the future if you will..

An Obama Presidency will be the worst thing to ever happen to this country. Ever. Period.

Or any other effete, socialist, America hater, Presidency.
Bush is an embarrassment to the american people and the rest of the world.
He has done so much harm to his own people, then look at afghanistan and Iraq,
and count the deaths there caused by him.
Sure there has been no terrorist threats since 911, he is killing so many people abroad, and
he has so many people in jail in the u.s., and I would like to know how many of those
haven't done anything wrong, and then there is guantonimo, another embarrassment.
I watched the interview with many of the past secretaries of state last night, and they all
said that quantonimo should be shut down, it is a black mark on the u.s.
And he has drained his own country of money, taken them so far into debt, because of
his 'insane' spending in the military , and at the same time it keeps all of his big
corporate friends rich making military machines/guns/bombs/planes/etc.
The people in the u.s. are left out, the only thing he wants them for is to 'die' in
war, then he pretends he cares.
If Obama becomes president, it would take him a long long time to ever stoop that low
as this sitting president has done.
 

darkbeaver

the universe is electric
Jan 26, 2006
41,035
201
63
RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia
Well he's been campaigning with basically the same consistent message for almost 2 years. He debated Hillary 21-ish times. He didn't just parachute in or get a quick pass to Go. He has fought his way to where he is through some tough campaigning. It appears you don't disagree with the message, you're just prepared to call him a liar. If he's a liar he's a damn good one. If cynicism is the only the standard of measurement then his incredible lying skills make him very experienced and ready for the position.

I'v seen and heard change as the message and the platform for over forty years but I'v never seen the change itself. It's the oldest promise in the book Kreskin it's always about change, he's a preacher he's a salesman he's got karisma sex appeal and he can deliver the change story with conviction, they all did, this guys just a polished example of the same old design.
Yes he's ready for the position, so what, Bush was the right hand man of god at one time.
So cynicism is not my only standard Kreskin, quality does count, he's very slick and convinced some of the herd that he's the solution when there is none. Have you heard his speech about America being so bankrupt it can never recover the standard of living it had in 1950? No I don't think you will either. He's full of **** like the rest of them and he'd sell his granny just like he did his spiritman whatshisname. You buy the car anyway man, it''s got a nice paint job. If you want high grade cynasism **** cynisism try Macheaveli. Have you got any beer?:smile:
 
Last edited:

darkbeaver

the universe is electric
Jan 26, 2006
41,035
201
63
RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia
It's called idealism and all virgins bring it to the table. It took a 7.62 round to kill Kennedy's

Exactly he's sacrificeable, something to be spent at the right time, remarkably like the JFK saga of hope fed to the nations by the executioneers, Camelot revisited maybe, only with a twenty-first century twist, maybe Spielbug will do it.:lol:
 

gopher

Hall of Fame Member
Jun 26, 2005
21,513
66
48
Minnesota: Gopher State
"Not one terrorist attack on our soil since September 11, 2001."

Here's why we had terrorism in the first place:







America's number one traitor: Reagan.















http://struggle.ws/anarchism/writers/anarcho/history/ronaldreagan.html
 

Colpy

Hall of Fame Member
Nov 5, 2005
21,887
848
113
70
Saint John, N.B.
I watched interviews with Obama and McCain last night on CBS 60 minutes.

I have to say they simply re-inforced my preference for McCain.

Obama on occassion seems forced, it is as if he resents these troublesome questions, this tripwires on the path to his coronation.....God I hope he hasn't been taken in by the Messiah complex awarded him by the Mary of the airwave (Ophra, may the flies of 1000 camels fly into her mouth on her next photo op).......way too touchy-feely, a little irritation showing..........nope

McCain the man.

Mind you, both have their good points.....both have their faults. Should Obama win, I wish him the best of luck......he has an impossibe job.

Oh yeah......speaking of insanity, neither of these guys will say what needs to be said: ie "You can't have guns and butter" in other words, if you are going to carry the fight into different camps all over the world, you've got to PAY for it, taxes have to go up.