Is Canada a peaceful country?

Lester

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I don't think there was much of a chance of that happening, If Canada was being invaded by the nazis I doubt the States would have sat by and watched them get a foot hold in North America.
 

talloola

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We are a very peaceful country, not perfect, (who wants to be anyway), but peaceful.

As I look around the world each day, (in the news), it is a bit scary, how many people in
many countries, have to live, scrounging for food, fearing their governments, and happy to get to
the end of the day, with something in their belly, and still alive. I feel happy and relieved
to be here, and not there.
 

dancing-loon

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Britain, not England, wanted to fight. And with good reason. Why should Britain, a European country, stand by to watch its fellow European countries being helplessly overrun by an evil force? It's lucky Britain, and France, decided to do something about it otherwise millions of Europeans would not be living under a NAZI Empire.

And, don't forget, if the Germans managed to invade Britain then Canada would have therefore fallen, too.
:smile: The right to amass an Empire was reserved exclusively for the British only, I guess? They feared competition, didn't they?

Again, to brutally amass an Empire is reserved for the Americans only, right?

So, what is good for the goose is not good for the gander in your opinion... did I read that right??
 

dancing-loon

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Growing Islamist Terror Threat in Canada

http://counterterrorismblog.org/2006/06/growing_islamist_terror_threat.php

As shown in the arrest of 17 individuals in the Greater Toronto Area - who police sources define as "Muslims, but not Arabs" there is a growing terrorist threat in Canada. Canada continues to struggle with not just foreign terrorists, but an increasing growth of "homegrown terrorists". These arrests are reported to have links to other terror suspects worldwide and in the United States.

The RCMP indicates the recent arrests averted a massive attack, potentially three times larger than the Oklahoma City bombing, finding three tons of 3 tons of ammonium nitrate fertilizer explosives - perhaps targeting a nuclear facility.

A CSIS report was recently reported to have anticipated terrorist attacks on Canada as "now probable". However, once this was reported, on May 10, CSIS spokespeople quickly minimized the potential concern to the public.

In April, the FBI announced arrest of two Georgia men who had met with three "like-minded Islamic extremists" in Toronto. The US State Department has frequently stated its concerns about the lack of terrorist controls in Canada stating that Canada is a "terror haven", and recently a Canadian senator has echoed those concerns on terror financing laws.

Canada's govt has been inconsistent in handling terrorism, and on May 23, a Canadian federal judge released on bail Al Qaeda suspect Harkat even though he lied about his Al Qaeda links.

Still, for many Canadians, the threat of Jihad is a distant concern. As former RCMP jihadism expert Tom Quiggin has stated: "A clear sense of denial exists in Canada about the degree to which terrorism activity occurs. Political correctness is wielded as a weapon against anyone who dares to speak out. Yet some of the world's most infamous terrorists have operated in Canada almost unhindered for years."
Blackleaf...
there is common doubt about the existence of al Qaeda. You can't be living with the Seven Dwarfs behind the Seven Mountains to not know how trumped up this so called "terrorist threat" is! It was cooked, artificially inflated and heaped onto our plates for blindfolded consumption!

Our RCMP hasn't got a leg to stand on!!! Not in my book anymore!
 

Zzarchov

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Im really curious how Germany was going to take Canada after Britain. Sail across the atlantic to take and hold a country bigger than their current territory (including already occupied restless territory) next the only larger industrialized nation in the world.

Ya.... Canada was in no danger other than economic in WWII.
 

einmensch

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What are you talking about Colpy?--Show me the PEACE Agreement the USA made with Germany--
 

EagleSmack

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um.... How would Canada have fallen? There's a big moat between us and U-boats weren't built with wheels.

Just an observation....

True. The Germans would have had a tough time getting across the English Canal never mind the Atlantic Ocean. The Germans had no surface Navy to speak of and their capital ships spent most of their time hiding in Norwegian fiords. The amphibious capabilities of Germany were almost nil and Japan was not too much better.
 

mt_pockets1000

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For the most part Canada is a peaceful nation. However, ethnic violence is slowly creeping into our country. Just yesterday here in Edmonton 25-30 Turkish men armed with knives, metal batons and other weapons stormed a local Kurdish cafe and proceeded to beat on people inside, smash windows, flatten furniture and create overall mayhem. We are not immune to this sort of behavior.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2008/05/23/5646961-sun.html
 

einmensch

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"They are like Nazis. They are Turkish Nazis," said Yesilcimer, who said he was speaking on behalf of the victims.
WE do love the word NAZIS don't we!
Two men in their 40s and one in his 50s were taken to hospital with non life-threatening injuries after a group of 20 to 25 armed men stoned Ankara Cafe at 15960 109 Ave., and assaulted eight people with metal batons, knives and stones, said eyewitnesses.
2 and 8 ??
 

lone wolf

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Peaceful ... or apathetic? We let the government crap on us, immigrants walk all over us, corporations bleed us white and unions pick our pockets. There's polite ... and then there's being backed into a corner. Maybe, what we are, is too damned patient.
 

Praxius

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I would like to ask, are we Canadians satisfied, even happy, not to be # 3? It should be our aim and ambition to be in the top five!!

Yeah, but being a country that doesn't care what others think of them makes you a "Cool" country :cool: ~ I mean if we keep trying to keep up to the world's image of what Canada should be, then we have no identity of our own, and we're always trying to fill other people's shoes.... then we start getting really superficial, start throwing up after meals, wearing trampy outfits, going on coke binges, showing up late for work, get fired.... and then the world finds out on the news that Canada was found face down in her own bathtub and OD'd on whippets....

.... and then the rest of the world will shake their heads and wonder what happened.... we had everything, everybody liked us and then we got sucked into the fame and fortune and went down hill like Spears.

Poor Canada.... she was beautiful once.
 

einmensch

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Colpy,Zz and you may wish to sit this one out --It's of no interest to you

To Loon-I don't know if you ever looked-
My uncle was a prisoner of war in Canada. -Where??? In Western Canada??? All he said was that he was treated very well. A man of no words when it came to war events.
http://www.pastforward.ca/perspectives/feb_152002.htm

http://www.u-35.com/pow/

http://archives.cbc.ca/war_conflict/prisoners_of_war/topics/1642/

http://www.aiipowmia.com/inter23/in230803powcamp.html

http://members.memlane.com/djcarter/photographs.htm
 

Praxius

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I don't have to help my fellow traveller....Just out run him:lol:

So what you're saying is Canada should build a super fast travel rocket for our citizens? If the planet is about doomed and everything on the face of the Earth is about to die, we should have a better rocket to out run the other countries and escape the planet's explosion and wake and leave the rest to die in their crappy forign rockets? Sounds like a plan. :p
 

Praxius

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Sorry, Karrie, I had to disturb your view of Canada. I rather agree with Lester's point of view... let's be proud peace keepers!

Unfortunatly I do not share you view of us being Peace Keepers and it being a good thing. I have heard of way too many examples from former soldiers who used to work as Peace Keepers under the UN back in the 90's, and they told me of situations where theire bases and roadblocks, etc were under fire by one of the sides they're supposed to keep the peace with, and they were not allowed to fire back.... exactly how safe is that for our troops? They are issued out less ammo and less equipment because they're not supposed to be in offensive positions, yet they're thrown into situations where they will be shot at on occasion, and in fact our troops over in Afghanistan today have been complaining about still using peacekeeping equipment, such as their ammo belts and such don't hold enough slots for the clips and ammo distributed to them now and they're going into battle ill-equipped due to this.

To me, all peacekeeping is, is just a mask of being at war, thrown right in the middle of two rivals, being shot at and not being able to do jack about it. It is not always this case and we're not always shot at, but it does happen, and those soldiers I listened to sure didn't enjoy having their buddies shot up and them not being able to do anything about it. I'm not sure if the rules of engagement have change since those situations I was told about, but I'd rather be trying to keep peace as a military force, then to try and keep peace as a peacekeeper and being restricted on how you can defend yourself.
 

dancing-loon

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For the most part Canada is a peaceful nation. However, ethnic violence is slowly creeping into our country. Just yesterday here in Edmonton 25-30 Turkish men armed with knives, metal batons and other weapons stormed a local Kurdish cafe and proceeded to beat on people inside, smash windows, flatten furniture and create overall mayhem. We are not immune to this sort of behavior.

http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Edmonton/2008/05/23/5646961-sun.html
They should be thrown out of the country without further ado!
 

dancing-loon

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Colpy,Zz and you may wish to sit this one out --It's of no interest to you

To Loon-I don't know if you ever looked-
My uncle was a prisoner of war in Canada. -Where??? In Western Canada??? All he said was that he was treated very well. A man of no words when it came to war events.
http://www.pastforward.ca/perspectives/feb_152002.htm

http://www.u-35.com/pow/

http://archives.cbc.ca/war_conflict/prisoners_of_war/topics/1642/

http://www.aiipowmia.com/inter23/in230803powcamp.html

http://members.memlane.com/djcarter/photographs.htm
Well, this is all new to me! Nobody I knew was in Canada as a POW. I am really happy to learn that Canada treated the POW humanely. That's how it should be.

It was the complete opposite in the Eastern countries!

I have read that is was in violation of the Capitulation rules to keep prisoners afterwards as slave laborers. That is what happened to my youngest brother... the Americans handed him over to the French, where he worked for over three years... until the fall of 1948.

Your uncle was extremely lucky!
 

dancing-loon

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Yeah, but being a country that doesn't care what others think of them makes you a "Cool" country :cool: ~ I mean if we keep trying to keep up to the world's image of what Canada should be, then we have no identity of our own, and we're always trying to fill other people's shoes.... then we start getting really superficial, start throwing up after meals, wearing trampy outfits, going on coke binges, showing up late for work, get fired.... and then the world finds out on the news that Canada was found face down in her own bathtub and OD'd on whippets....

.... and then the rest of the world will shake their heads and wonder what happened.... we had everything, everybody liked us and then we got sucked into the fame and fortune and went down hill like Spears.

Poor Canada.... she was beautiful once.
Praxi,
do you think she will be beautiful again, if she goes out and bloodies herself?
You are a young male... you think and feel very differently from me. You never experienced a war, you never lost your closest kin, you never saw the devastation for real, you never were subjected to a foreign military occupation, never were at their whim and mercy.

There is a difference between the two of us! Don't push it...you are too innocent yet.
I don't want Canada to fight for someone else and pretend it is necessary... it is all politics in the heads of our Government. They instill danger and fear into our minds about the terrorist boogyman, and a lot of plain Canadians believe that BS.
 

einmensch

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What are you talking about?

Japan and Germany have had completely independent, freely elected gov'ts for DECADES!

Education for Colpy

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Christopher Bollyn

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