Is Anonymity a right or a privilege?
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I think so, too. I was simply pointing out that discovering how to pinpoint someone to charge them with an offense like defamation, libel, slander, etc. is not that easy. Law enforcement has squads of people trying to track down sexual predators, scammers, and sleeper-recruiters. And even law enforcement's net experts have extreme difficulty catching people sometimes.
lol I have no idea. Perhaps the same way that guy had sex with apple pie in "American Pie"? :?:
roflmao So who would decide who was trolling and who was simply needling, joking, or using sarcasm?
Lawsuit is way outta my league - too much bother and hassle - the farther away from any court proceeding in my life the better I will be....
Trolls, insulters, all those netizens who can't seem to utter anything pleasant are easily discovered - those who go after particular people are also advertising themselves in their insular vendetta or "cause".
It has been my experience however that a couple of enemies over the ten years of my internetship have been right on in their criticism of me - letting it fly when people within my own hearing distance would never say those things to my face.
It has given me pause for thought that sometimes a stranger who is under no bonds of "politic or politeness" can speak the truth others may avoid saying....
It may be the best advice you can be hurt by.... but right on the money.
Trolls, insulters, all those netizens who can't seem to utter anything pleasant are easily discovered - those who go after particular people are also advertising themselves in their insular vendetta or "cause".
It has been my experience however that a couple of enemies over the ten years of my internetship have been right on in their criticism of me - letting it fly when people within my own hearing distance would never say those things to my face.
It has given me pause for thought that sometimes a stranger who is under no bonds of "politic or politeness" can speak the truth others may avoid saying....
It may be the best advice you can be hurt by.... but right on the money.
Right.
The problem prosecutors have with proving slander, defamation, etc. is that the perp actually has the intent of defaming, libeling, etc. If the defense can show reasonable evidence that the perp really was under the impression that what he/she said/wrote was true there is no case. And the courts have to decide. And the entire thing is complicated when people attach two simple words to the fronts of their accusations: "I think".
And the courts get extremely ticked at frivolous charges.
Another stipulation for using a forum like this is that you'd be ejected for doing something illegal like plagiarism, libel, etc.
But, the only way to find out if you are commiting an illegal act is by invading your privacy and investigating your life. Catch 22 I guess...
Any name calling or other things like saying you are just a greeter at Walmart or even more insulting stuff, could not be liable because, you are not a known figure like a public personality......you are just a figment of my imagination....
Now if you could prove that I knew who you are and I say lies about you then you have a case,
and the privacy laws would apply, but anonymity is a privilege afforded to us by the owners.
Yes. Take for example China and that Google conflict, every country has their own ways, but that's up to Interpol to decide who the culprit is.
Perhaps. I met a guy that called himself Bill Gates online and he convinced people that he was really Bill Gates. I met another guy who said he was Hugh Hefner, and he wasn't so convincing. Who is to say which was telling the truth? How would you know I wasn't exactly who I say I am? How do you know that I am not the singer, Anna Gilbert?
That is what I said when I outlined the problem the legal system has.
Why would Interpol have anything to say about that? Google committed no crime. China was within its rights to deny Google business there. Google left. There's NO culprit.
"We"? Speak for yourself. What you said was nonsense because sometimes people actually do commit obvious crimes on the net and sometimes an invasion of privacy is just not necessary until the law shows up on someone's doorstep with an arrest warrant.
I met Bill Gates one day at Comdex in Las Vegas, I know it's him because that is what his business card says.
And my neighbors sister hangs out at the Play Boy Mansion and knows Hugh Hefner because she brings back pictures of her and him standing together.
That is why we put things in writing, otherwise it's just heresay.