Irish workers feel betrayed. Twenty labourers laid off

petros

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A group of 20 Irish pipefitters laid off from their jobs outside Saskatoon are grateful for the help they're getting from the local union and the provincial government, but feel they're being "screwed over" by the company that brought them here.

Speaking on behalf of the group Thursday, workers Derek Brennan and Daniel Dunne said they have been left in limbo. The workers were recruited in the spring by Monad Industrial to work on the $1.5-billion expansion at Agrium's Vanscoy potash mine. After signing multi-year contracts to work for about $37 per hour, they were told there had been some unavoidable delays in the construction process. They've been laid off.

A Monad official said Wednesday the workers had been offered positions in Regina for now and will be needed once the work begins at Vanscoy early next year.

The workers declined, saying the company refused to guarantee a minimum of 12 weeks work in Regina and won't guarantee their jobs at Vanscoy for next year.

"They said, 'Come here. Bring your family,'" said Dunne, whose wife and three daughters arrive Tuesday.

"I saw this as an opportunity to have a better life for my family. We've been screwed over."

Most of the men worked for a few weeks before the layoff. Brennan arrived earlier this month, opened a bank account and obtained a social insurance number.

He said he travelled to the mine site for a daylong orientation, but was turned back at the gate after being told there was no work. He said he has not been reimbursed for his flight, as was promised, and no one has apologized.

The workers' lawyer, Leslie Prosser, said the priority is to get the men working, but they are "looking at their legal options."

The men are looking for other jobs and the provincial government is working to ensure their immigration status and ability to work in Saskatchewan are not affected by the turmoil.

Both men say it would be hard to return to Monad, even with guarantees.

"I'd find it hard to trust them," Dunne said.

Monad spokesperson Mike Long said Wednesday the temporary layoffs of 20 workers were due to unforeseen delays in the company's work at the mine, but they'll be needed soon.

Since the March recruitment drive to Ireland by Saskatchewan government officials and employers, 282 workers have been offered positions.

Premier Brad Wall said from Halifax he was "disappointed" for the workers recruited to Saskatchewan, but praised quick government action to allow the workers the option to take other offers.








They should have joined UA in the first place.

 

JLM

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That sh*t happens a lot, don't know how many times my son has been phoned to report to the patch immediately, just to get up there and find a week or twos delay before a "wheel turns".
 

Bar Sinister

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They should have had a WRITTEN contract in the first place.

That's easy to say, but foreigners are generally unfamiliar with Canadian labour laws. If you were offered a job by a company in Ireland would you know what to do, or would you take it at face value? The Irish are used to EU labour codes which tend to be pretty much the same no matter where you go. They are also used to the fact that if a job falls though they are only a $200 plane trip from home. Coming to Canada is something else again.

There is a real problem in Canada with foreign workers being invited to the country and then finding that the job they thought was there has disappeared. This is especially true for Asian workers who often have to apply through brokers at a fairly high expense and who may wind up deeply in debt if the supposed job terminates early. It is nice that the provincial government is helping out, but there should be tighter regulation so far as foreign workers are concerned in the first place.
 

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The Oirish are cold cynical people with a penchant for strong drink, lots of talk and little action-if they want sympathy they can look in the dictionary between sh!t & syphilis.
 

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That's easy to say, but foreigners are generally unfamiliar with Canadian labour laws. If you were offered a job by a company in Ireland would you know what to do, or would you take it at face value? The Irish are used to EU labour codes which tend to be pretty much the same no matter where you go. They are also used to the fact that if a job falls though they are only a $200 plane trip from home. Coming to Canada is something else again.

There is a real problem in Canada with foreign workers being invited to the country and then finding that the job they thought was there has disappeared. This is especially true for Asian workers who often have to apply through brokers at a fairly high expense and who may wind up deeply in debt if the supposed job terminates early. It is nice that the provincial government is helping out, but there should be tighter regulation so far as foreign workers are concerned in the first place.

Happens all the time to people that are born here. Just a fact of industrial life. Not everyone has a cushy 9-3 government job with every second friday off.
 

petros

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I feel sorry for those who took the jobs. They were used as anti-union bait by Brad Wall but in the end it was UA who gladly gave them membership and other jobs. Good thing UA was there to bail them out leaving egg on Wall's face.
 

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The Oirish are cold cynical people with a penchant for strong drink, lots of talk and little action

Ah, I love the smell of stereotypical b.s. in the morning.

Although I'm not entirely sure who the "Oirish" are.

-if they want sympathy they can look in the dictionary between sh!t & syphilis.
Yeah, speaking of cold and cynical people.......
 

JLM

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Ah, I love the smell of stereotypical b.s. in the morning.

Although I'm not entirely sure who the "Oirish" are.

Yeah, speaking of cold and cynical people.......

Just a little ethnic humour, which I think is quite acceptable as long as it's not mean spirited. We all have to be able to laugh at ourselves - the French talk with their hands, the Scots are frugal (cheap) and the Irish drink! :lol:
 

Bar Sinister

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Happens all the time to people that are born here. Just a fact of industrial life. Not everyone has a cushy 9-3 government job with every second friday off.

No it doesn't happen all the time to people who are born here. People who are born here who lose their jobs do not have to travel ten thousand km to a completely different culture, risking everything on that move and in many cases playing broker for the opportunity.

And what's with the 9-3 remark? That seems utterly irrelevant.
 

petros

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No it doesn't happen all the time to people who are born here. People who are born here who lose their jobs do not have to travel ten thousand km to a completely different culture, risking everything on that move and in many cases playing broker for the opportunity.

And what's with the 9-3 remark? That seems utterly irrelevant.
There is no shortage of work for fitters. None. Zero. Zip.

They won the ****ing Irish Sweepstakes!
 

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I feel sorry for those who took the jobs. They were used as anti-union bait by Brad Wall but in the end it was UA who gladly gave them membership and other jobs. Good thing UA was there to bail them out leaving egg on Wall's face.


Wall apparently likes getting in the way of eggs. ****ing conbot. Nothing like ****ing with peoples' lives to win friends and influence folks.

No it doesn't happen all the time to people who are born here. People who are born here who lose their jobs do not have to travel ten thousand km to a completely different culture, risking everything on that move and in many cases playing broker for the opportunity.

And what's with the 9-3 remark? That seems utterly irrelevant.


He can't help it. Not a bad guy but he can't help it. Anyone with an education pisses him off.