Iran's Nuclear Program

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earth_as_one

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Israel is not a signatory to the NPT- Iran is. Any more UFI coming.

But you place a greater standard on only one side..
The standard is that all countries must sign at least the required parts of the NPT and all country's nuclear programs must respect the NPT or face penalties. So far Iran meets the standard, while most of their adversaries do not.
Am I wrong in recalling some Iranian leaders shouting Death to Israel?
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Israel also chants "Death to Iran" on a regular basis.

Israel wants to attack Iran before U.S. vote: Israeli report
Friday, Aug. 10 2012,

Israel wants to attack Iran before U.S. vote: Israeli report - The Globe and Mail

Iranians want peaceful nuclear technology and do not want nuclear weapons. An attack would likely change Iranian attitudes.
 

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The standard is that all countries should sign the NPT and all country's nuclear programs should respect the NPT or face penalties. So far Iran meets the standard, while most of their adversaries do not.
That's nice.

Now can you reply to my comment in context.

Thanks.

And it would be nice if you answered the question you ignored too.

Thanks again.

Israel constantly threatens to attack Iran.

Iran arms anti-Israeli militant groups.
Neat, I agree, now lets try something fun and informative...

Iran arms anti-Israeli militant groups.

Israel constantly threatens to attack Iran.
There we go, now it's more factual.

The fact is the Iranian people want peaceful nuclear technology and do not want nuclear weapons.
You posted a link to the TFT poll that says 51% want nuclear weapons now.
 

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The standard is that all countries should sign the NPT and all country's nuclear programs should respect the NPT or face penalties. So far Iran meets the standard, while most of their adversaries do not.
That is your standard- And not meeting their obligations according to the UN and the IAEA- I see that you finally admit that Iran is a true adversary to Israel.


Israel possesses nuke Iran doesn't. Israel constantly threatens to attack Iran. Iran arms anti-Israeli militant groups. Israel trains mercenaries to be assassins. ..

You have brought this claim against Israel on a repeated basis- Iran on the other hand has been indicted by the Federal Courts in Germany for murder- Argentina is also investigating Iranians regarding the bombing there- Of course their is no need to include what Iran has done about this.


The fact is the Iranian people want peaceful nuclear technology and do not want nuclear weapons.
An attack would like change Iranian attitudes.

And your proof of this is what...................... PS did you fill out that form yet?
 

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The standard is that all countries must sign at least the required parts of the NPT and all country's nuclear programs must respect the NPT or face penalties. So far Iran meets the standard, while most of their adversaries do not.


Israel also chants "Death to Iran" on a regular basis.

Israel wants to attack Iran before U.S. vote: Israeli report
Friday, Aug. 10 2012,

Israel wants to attack Iran before U.S. vote: Israeli report - The Globe and Mail

Iranians want peaceful nuclear technology and do not want nuclear weapons. An attack would likely change Iranian attitudes.

Nice spin but not factual as usual.
 

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The standard is that all countries must sign at least the required parts of the NPT and all country's nuclear programs must respect the NPT or face penalties. So far Iran meets the standard, while most of their adversaries do not.


Israel also chants "Death to Iran" on a regular basis.

Israel wants to attack Iran before U.S. vote: Israeli report
Friday, Aug. 10 2012,

Israel wants to attack Iran before U.S. vote: Israeli report - The Globe and Mail

Iranians want peaceful nuclear technology and do not want nuclear weapons. An attack would likely change Iranian attitudes.


:lol::roll:
 

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The standard is that all countries must sign at least the required parts of the NPT and all country's nuclear programs must respect the NPT or face penalties. So far Iran meets the standard, while most of their adversaries do not.

Some news articles from you on Iran - And they support Hamas and Hezbollah- Also linked to killings world wide for decades. Both Iranian dissidents and Jews.

This lists the main ones

Supreme Leader Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Khamenei: In His Own Words-The Israel Project

Iran

As leader of a country under a long-standing threat of military action from Israel and the United States, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned the Jewish state and its allies to expect “paralyzing blows” that a NATO missile shield could not prevent.

“Any plan that seeks to divide Palestine is totally rejected,” Khamenei told a conference on the Palestinian issue.

“The two-state scheme, which has been clad in the self-righteousness of the acceptance of the Palestinian government and membership at the United Nations, is nothing but a capitulation to the demands of the Zionists or the recognition of the Zionist regime on Palestinian land,” he declared.
 

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You have brought this claim against Israel on a repeated basis- Iran on the other hand has been indicted by the Federal Courts in Germany for murder- Argentina is also investigating Iranians regarding the bombing there- Of course their is no need to include what Iran has done about this.

May I remind you of wesern organizations like the CIA, MI6, Mossad etc that have all been linked to various murders, assassinations, coups. I find great hilarity and hypocrisy at the outrage from the west over political assassinations and torture etc when the US is the worst offender. Why are you not crying foul when the Americans carried out an ex-judicial assassination of a political nature within another sovereign nation just a while back. It was all over the news and they were proud of it but if a country that is not an ally does it it become criminal and hated. Talk about having your cake and eating it too! :roll:
 

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May I remind you of wesern organizations like the CIA, MI6, Mossad etc that have all been linked to various murders, assassinations, coups. I find great hilarity and hypocrisy at the outrage from the west over political assassinations and torture etc when the US is the worst offender. Why are you not crying foul when the Americans carried out an ex-judicial assassination of a political nature within another sovereign nation just a while back. It was all over the news and they were proud of it but if a country that is not an ally does it it become criminal and hated. Talk about having your cake and eating it too! :roll:

There is a bit of a difference between taking out an international terrorist and bombing school busses.
 

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May I remind you of wesern organizations like the CIA, MI6, Mossad etc that have all been linked to various murders, assassinations, coups. I find great hilarity and hypocrisy at the outrage from the west over political assassinations and torture etc when the US is the worst offender. Why are you not crying foul when the Americans carried out an ex-judicial assassination of a political nature within another sovereign nation just a while back. It was all over the news and they were proud of it but if a country that is not an ally does it it become criminal and hated. Talk about having your cake and eating it too! :roll:
Quick! Look over there>>>

SQUIRREL!!
 

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May I remind you of wesern organizations like the CIA, MI6, Mossad etc that have all been linked to various murders, assassinations, coups. I find great hilarity and hypocrisy at the outrage from the west over political assassinations and torture etc when the US is the worst offender. Why are you not crying foul when the Americans carried out an ex-judicial assassination of a political nature within another sovereign nation just a while back. It was all over the news and they were proud of it but if a country that is not an ally does it it become criminal and hated. Talk about having your cake and eating it too! :roll:

Yes we are aware. Perhaps you like the other choice- Kill a whole bunch because sanctions were not working and the Iranians were making faster progress- or kill those that work on the Nuke program-

You make the choice- 1 or the other.
 

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Should Iran be allowed to develop nuclear weapons? No, period. That being said, ALL nuclear weapons should be outlawed world wide. ALL nuclear weapons should be disposed of. There is no reason whatsoever to posses or develop such weapons.
 

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Should Iran be allowed to develop nuclear weapons? No, period. That being said, ALL nuclear weapons should be outlawed world wide. ALL nuclear weapons should be disposed of. There is no reason whatsoever to posses or develop such weapons.
+... F!ck it. You win!
 

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Should Iran be allowed to develop nuclear weapons? No, period. That being said, ALL nuclear weapons should be outlawed world wide. ALL nuclear weapons should be disposed of. There is no reason whatsoever to posses or develop such weapons.

The real scary ones are in vials under lock and key- and with information and knowledge on the fly it will not be as difficult as many think to weaponize a virus. Such as the Avian Flu.
 

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There is a bit of a difference between taking out an international terrorist and bombing school busses.
The western agencies don't just take out people they label terrorists, although labeling someone a terrorist before the assassination makes it look better to the public, they take out businessmen & politicians and, well, anyone they think might get in the way.

Quick! Look over there>>>

SQUIRREL!!
I saw that movie too....;-)
Yes we are aware. Perhaps you like the other choice- Kill a whole bunch because sanctions were not working and the Iranians were making faster progress- or kill those that work on the Nuke program-

You make the choice- 1 or the other.

No, you make the choice....all countries can undertake assassinations or none can. All countries can have nukes or none can.
 

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The real scary ones are in vials under lock and key- and with information and knowledge on the fly it will not be as difficult as many think to weaponize a virus. Such as the Avian Flu.


How is that any scarier? Weaponized viruses, chemicals, or nukes all have the same ability. The ability to wipe out all of mankind. Who wins then? Who, in their lofty ideals, has gained anything?
 

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How is that any scarier? Weaponized viruses, chemicals, or nukes all have the same ability. The ability to wipe out all of mankind. Who wins then? Who, in their lofty ideals, has gained anything?
You cannot put the knowledge and abilities back into a box. The best you will see is a massive reduction- but that is difficult to verify.
 

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The western agencies don't just take out people they label terrorists, although labeling someone a terrorist before the assassination makes it look better to the public, they take out businessmen & politicians and, well, anyone they think might get in the way.


I saw that movie too....;-)


No, you make the choice....all countries can undertake assassinations or none can. All countries can have nukes or none can.

I vote for none. I also vote for no nuclear power plants until they can be made safe and the byproducts disposed of safely. NOT just stored.