Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period

Ron in Regina

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Excellent speech by Bibi at the UN. The fools who walked out are exactly that: fools who refuse to see the truth of what is taking place. The lies being told about what Israel is doing. It's astonishing how cognitive dissonance has taken over the world. Hey Petros? Cognitive dissonance??
Which delegations walked out? Just curious. The new stories just say dozens but they don’t say who.
 

Ron in Regina

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I believe it was the delegates of the country that he was yammering on about at the time.
I couldn’t be bothered to watch that speech, but I’ve read that dozens (plural of dozen) walked out. Was he talking about dozens of different countries?

I just wondered if there was a pattern to it like all of the European Union or whatever.
 

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I couldn’t be bothered to watch that speech, but I’ve read that dozens (plural of dozen) walked out. Was he talking about dozens of different countries?

I just wondered if there was a pattern to it like all of the European Union or whatever.
Yes so I believe it was the entire Cuban delegation that up and left when he started spewing his nonsense about Cuba.
 

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Hang me for saying so but I like Tucker.

Worth a viewing, but it's long so turn up the speed a bit and you don't really have to watch it just listen to it while you're doing other things.

 

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The U.S. President, who has declared victory since the earliest days of the seven-month fight, alternates between pursuing diplomacy, ordering airstrikes and tightening sanctions around Iran. His views today could shift as the war drags over the coming weeks, officials said, and could be affected by the results of the midterms. Back in January pre-Iran war the President “facetiously” suggested canceling the midterms entirely, arguing that his administration had been so successful that "we shouldn't even have an election," a comment the White House later clarified was a joke.

Tehran is seeking several concessions from the U.S. in return, including an end to the U.S. naval blockade of Iranian ports, waivers on sanctions targeting Iranian oil sales and a ceasefire that would extend to Lebanon, according to the Associated Press.
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Trump has not publicly responded to the proposal, but on Saturday morning, he reiterated his demand that Tehran not obtain a nuclear weapon and put an end to its uranium enrichment efforts. He reiterated his focus on foreign policy over domestic elections, stating that the upcoming midterms "don't even enter my mind" when dealing with Iran.
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Trump also posted an image Friday labeling the Strait of Hormuz, one of the world’s most important energy routes carrying roughly 20 percent of global oil supplies, the “Trump Strait.”
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Tehran’s proposal would have reopened the Strait of Hormuz and resumed nuclear talks in return for the U.S. lifting its blockade of Iranian ports, which is causing deep damage to the country’s economy. Trump says openly that Tehran is begging for a deal after the midterms that dismantles its nuclear program.
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Arab mediators said Iranian diplomats have presented a number of proposals to end the war and acknowledged the deepening economic crisis in their country. But the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, the powerful paramilitary and economic force that has essentially run Iran since the war began in February, has said that it won’t entertain new formulas for an agreement and that it is prepared for a long war.

Why would Tehran be begging for a deal but after the midterms? President Trump has rejected Iran’s proposal for a seven-day ceasefire and has told aides he expects to resume bombing Iran after the November midterms, U.S. officials said. After Tehran’s UN speech, privately Trump was skeptical Iran would meet his demands. Trump’s current position indicates the conflict’s stage—a liminal space between war and peace—is likely to tilt back toward hostilities.

The level of strikes Trump is contemplating couldn’t be determined. He is reluctant to resume major combat operations, the officials said, partly because the U.S. wants to reserve dwindling munitions for other contingencies. But Trump has also announced massive attacks to push through diplomatic deadlocks in U.S.-Iran negotiations, sometimes following through but always stepping back from his most audacious threats, including wiping out the entirety of Iranian civilization.

Trump told the United Nations this week politics don’t enter his mind when aiming to pry nuclear fuel from Iran.
“The Republican Party is running, and I’ll be helping them, but I am not running. I gave absolutely no credence and will not give credence through the election when it comes to Iran,” he told world leaders during the annual General Assembly in New York. “The only thing that does is that Iran will never have a nuclear weapon.” Trump has also told Republicans to pretend he is on the ballot when they head to the polls.

Media reports and political strategists highlight that despite claiming to prioritize national security and global positioning (such as dismissing AI safety regulations to counter China), Trump remains deeply reactive to domestic electoral hurdles, recently lashing out after the Supreme Court blocked his mail-in voting restrictions.

The Iranian Revolutionary Guard wants to return to the terms closer to the preliminary deal Trump struck with Iran in June. That agreement promised to provide relief from sanctions on oil sales, grant access to Iran’s frozen assets and acknowledge a role for Tehran administering the Strait of Hormuz in exchange for opening that waterway.
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Independent diplomatic reports show that Tehran is not offering an unconditional surrender or "begging" to scrap its nuclear program. Instead, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi and President Masoud Pezeshkian have proposed a highly conditional 7-day ceasefire plan.
According to congressional and political observers, many Republican candidates are attempting to create distance from the White House as foreign conflicts and economic pressures weigh on voter sentiment, suggesting that foreign policy preoccupations are creating a liability—rather than a helpful distraction—for the upcoming midterm elections.🤔
 

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Trump has said Tehran must never acquire a nuclear bomb, while a senior Iranian official told Reuters that Iran would show no flexibility ⁠over its nuclear program even if the US accepted its peace deal. Iran would grant no concessions over its rights, including enriching uranium or shipping its highly enriched uranium out of the country, the official said.
Araqchi told reporters at the United Nations on Friday the proposed deal would trigger a seven-day countdown to reopening the strait and a pause in regional fighting. "If there is seriousness on the US side to come to a deal and reopen the Strait of Hormuz, everything is now prepared," Araqchi said. If the US were to agree, the warring parties could start wider talks "on mutually agreed subjects."
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“They want to make a deal to open the Hormuz Strait immediately because they're losing so badly," Trump told reporters at the White House. Despite Trump's ⁠public statements, mediators facilitating Iran's talks with the United States have not officially relayed a US rejection of the plan, according to Araqchi. "We are waiting for the mediators to convey the definitive views to us, and we will make a decision based on them," Araqchi posted.
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The US has imposed an economic blockade on Iran to put pressure on Tehran to stop Iranian attacks on vessels in the Strait of Hormuz, which have drastically reduced shipping through the area even as Trump repeatedly asserts that the US controls the waterway. The Wall Street Journal first reported that Trump had rejected the Iranian proposal, citing unnamed US officials.
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It said Trump was privately skeptical that Iran would meet his demands and had told his staff that he sees a renewed bombing campaign as likely after the November US midterm elections. A US official had said earlier that discussions with Iran through mediators were "positive and constructive".
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In a post on Telegram, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi acknowledged Trump's rejection, but said Iran would wait for a "definitive" official US response. He said the president had made contradictory statements in the past.
 

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I watched the interview with the Iranian President & he's quite the glib liar. But a really interesting question made to him was: who is actually in charge because the IRGC have gone against what you had decided? Needless to say, he didn't answer the question. He stated that the civilians that were killed in the protests were ARMED, that many IRGC were killed but the total was only about 3,0000 and not the 40,000 (or whatever) was stated in the media. And Iranians have the right to protest peacefully. He said it with a straight face. You can't make this crap up!! It's unbelievable that anyone would think what he says was true because with communications as they are now-a-days, WE SEE what's happening with our own eyes but again, cognitive dissonance has spread around the world. People not believing how cruel some dictators are & what barbarians still remain on this planet.
 
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U.K. police arrest five on suspicion of preparing 'terrorist act' near air base
Residents in the village of close to Royal Air Force Fairford base in Gloucestershire advised to evacuate

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A U.S. Air Force B-1 Lancer bomber is pictured on the tarmac at RAF Fairford base in Fairford, southwest England on Sept. 27, 2026, as U.K. counter-terrorism police investigate an incident near the base in the village of Whelford.
A U.S. Air Force B-1 Lancer bomber is pictured on the tarmac at RAF Fairford base in Fairford, southwest England on Sept. 27, 2026, as U.K. counter-terrorism police investigate an incident near the base in the village of Whelford. Photo by JUSTIN TALLIS /AFP via Getty Images

FAIRFORD, United Kingdom — British counter-terrorism police were Sunday probing “a major” incident near a base used by the U.S. air force after arresting five men on suspicion of “preparing a terrorist act,” police said.


Armed officers detained the group in the early hours after a call to emergency services about three “suspicious vehicles which appeared to be travelling towards the air base”, London’s Metropolitan Police said in a statement.

U.S. President Donald Trump told reporters they had been “looking to do big damage” at the Royal Air Force (RAF) Fairford air base in Gloucestershire, southwest England.

“We had them under view for a long time, and we got them,” he said, adding the U.S. and U.K. had been working together on the incident.

A local resident who said it was known locally that the base was on lockdown due to a “terror threat” alerted emergency services after seeing three vans blocking the road and a large group of men wearing hoods and balaclavas.


Police man a roadblock while posted outside RAF Fairford base in Fairford, southwest England on Sept. 27, 2026, as U.K. counter-terrorism police investigate an incident near the base in the village of Whelford.
Police man a roadblock while posted outside RAF Fairford base in Fairford, southwest England on Sept. 27, 2026, as U.K. counter-terrorism police investigate an incident near the base in the village of Whelford. Photo by JUSTIN TALLIS /AFP via Getty Images
She told the PA news agency she found it “astonishing” it had been effectively down to a “plucky amateur” spotting unusual activity to raise the alarm.

Some 85 households in the nearby village of Whelford were advised to evacuate and army bomb disposal experts called in to examine three large white vans stopped on a rural road.

Incident ‘contained’
“Counter Terrorism Policing can now confirm they are leading an investigation into an incident which took place overnight near RAF Fairford in Gloucestershire,” the Met statement added.

Broadcast aerial footage showed a bomb disposal robot moving around the vans, two of which had their rear doors open.

Police believed the incident had been “contained” and a 400 metre (1,300 feet) cordon had been put in place.

Armed officers could be seen guarding the entrance to the base.

In March, then prime minister Keir Starmer granted permission for “defensive” U.S. action against Iranian missile sites from two U.K. bases including Fairford.


New Prime Minister Andy Burnham was being kept updated on the incident, a government spokesperson said.

Burnham, who was in the northwestern city of Liverpool along with other senior ministers for his Labour Party’s annual conference, thanked the police, armed forces and residents who had been asked to leave their homes “while precautionary checks are carried out.”

Defence Minister Wes Streeting said in Liverpool he had been in contact with U.S. Secretary of War Pete Hegseth and the U.K. was “working closely with our American friends.”

Asked if there was any Iranian involvement, he said it would be “irresponsible to speculate.”

Gloucestershire police said earlier it had declared a “major incident” with several men arrested “on suspicion of offences under the Explosives Act.”

Villagers evacuated
Residents from Whelford were evacuated to a nearby leisure centre.

“My understanding is that the whole village was evacuated in the early hours of this morning,” district councillor Tristan Wilkinson told AFP.


“Most people got in their cars, so when the police knocked on the doors and told them to go, most people were able to kind of drive away.”

They were now waiting to see if the cordon would be relaxed later Sunday, as many were worried about pets which had to be left behind. “I’m hoping that the police will actually reduce the cordon quite quickly,” Wilkinson said.

Villager Julian Tudsbery said it was his fellow villager who had alerted police first after they “phoned the airbase police who didn’t answer the phone. It just rang out so she dialled 999.”

Fairford is the U.K. base of the 501st Combat Support Wing, a U.S. air force administrative support wing, which said in a statement that no U.S. air force personnel had been involved in the incident.

“The 501st Combat Support Wing appreciates the swift response and continued support of our local law enforcement partners,” it said.

“We remain in close coordination with our U.K. partners to help ensure the safety and security of both our military and local communities,” it added.

The incident comes amid concerns about the actions of hostile foreign states.

Interior Minister Shabana Mahmood has accused Iran and Russia of using proxies to carry out criminal activities on their behalf on U.K. territory.

Earlier this month, reports said British military sites had been targeted by drones more than 300 times over the past year.

 

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Iran Guards say seized U.S. underwater drone in Hormuz
IRGC claims the drone was in the strait for 'espionage purposes'

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Published Sep 27, 2026 • 1 minute read
A motorist rides a scooter near a giant billboard erected on the facade of a building depicting a member of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) placing his foot on a US sea drone, reportedly seized by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz, in Vanak Square in Tehran on Sept. 24, 2026. Iran had previously said on Sept. 9 that it captured an unmanned U.S. submarine drone. The U.S. military at the time said that one of its underwater drones had "malfunctioned."
A motorist rides a scooter near a giant billboard erected on the facade of a building depicting a member of Iran's Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) placing his foot on a US sea drone, reportedly seized by Iran in the Strait of Hormuz, in Vanak Square in Tehran on Sept. 24, 2026. Iran had previously said on Sept. 9 that it captured an unmanned U.S. submarine drone. The U.S. military at the time said that one of its underwater drones had "malfunctioned." Photo by AFP via Getty Images

TEHRAN — Iran’s Revolutionary Guards said on Sunday that they seized an American submarine drone in the strategic Strait of Hormuz, which Tehran has blockaded in the months-long Middle East war.


“Through a coordinated, complex operation involving intelligence oversight and electronic warfare, IRGC naval forces’ personnel successfully captured an advanced unmanned underwater vehicle (UUV) belonging to the terrorist U.S. military,” the IRGC naval forces said in a statement, according to state TV.

They added that the drone was “operating in the Strait of Hormuz for espionage purposes,” identifying the model as a Remus 600 autonomous underwater vehicle that was “now in the hands of the force’s specialists for data recovery.”

Earlier this month, the Guards said they captured another U.S. submarine drone in the strait that was crucial for oil and gas trade before the Middle East war started in late February and choked off shipping.

Iran has maintained a blockade of the Hormuz strait since the outbreak of the conflict, while the United States has imposed a counter-blockade of Iranian ports.

 

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“I’m not affected by the election,” Trump told reporters in the Oval Office. “No. 1, I’m not running. But my party’s running, and I’m going to help my party. But I think my party respects the fact that we’re not allowing Iran to have a nuclear weapon.”
Trump has said Tehran must never acquire a nuclear bomb, while a senior Iranian official told Reuters that Iran would show no flexibility ⁠over its nuclear program even if the US accepted its peace deal. Iran would grant no concessions over its rights, including enriching uranium or shipping its highly enriched uranium out of the country, the official said.
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That rhetoric hasn’t been enough for Republicans in tough races who are, with more frequency, breaking with the president on Iran. In fact, so many Republicans last week were saying some version of the war needs to come to an end as quickly as possible, that there was a rumor going around D.C. about a possible memo that advised the line.

The war, and the mounting fuel and fertilizer prices it has caused, is a drag on Republican candidates, which is why nearly 20 of them have called for an end to the conflict. It’s not unusual for a war to affect an American election. But it’s highly unusual for an American election to affect a war, yet that’s apparently the remarkable phenomenon at play while the war between Iran and the United States remains in a quiet phase even as the U.S. midterm-election campaign enters its most contested period.
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Last week, President Donald Trump said he didn’t expect a peace agreement until after the elections, scheduled for Nov. 3. Over the weekend there were fresh indications that Mr. Trump, who last week rejected an Iranian proposal for a weeklong ceasefire, was holding out the possibility of ordering a new series of strikes after the midterms.
Despite Trump's ⁠public statements, mediators facilitating Iran's talks with the United States have not officially relayed a US rejection of the plan, according to Araqchi. "We are waiting for the mediators to convey the definitive views to us, and we will make a decision based on them," Araqchi posted.
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The result is a clear tie between American foreign policy and the domestic arena in a tacit, rare acknowledgement of how politics and war have become linked in the Trump era. In his speech at the United Nations last week, the President disavowed any connection between the two, but his emerging policy suggests otherwise.
In a post on Telegram, Iranian Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi acknowledged Trump's rejection, but said Iran would wait for a "definitive" official US response. He said the president had made contradictory statements in the past.
Average gasoline prices in the U.S. reached US$4.49 a gallon last week, up from US$3.15 a year ago, according to the American Automobile Association. Diesel prices, which affect the transport of food and other commodities, rose to a record US$6.53 last week. Rates on 30-year mortgages have climbed above 7 per cent. Mr. Trump, who has dealt with narrow Republican majorities in both chambers in his second term, the prospect of Democratic control of even one house could narrow his military options − or prompt him to push toward a wider war or a swift resolution to the conflict before Congress acts to stop him.

Then again, he has repeatedly demonstrated a refusal to be constrained by political and even legal barriers. Publicly, the Trump administration is either downplaying these breaks or arguing they don’t exist.

“I haven’t seen that break,” Vice President JD Vance said last week. “What I’ve seen is people who are very excited about what we’ve done, and frankly, who don’t want to give Washington — control of Washington, D.C., over to the far-left Democrats?”