Ok. Then, because 16 of the 21 Flight Attendants that day where Saudi’s, & credit was taken by Osama bin Laden (a Saudi), Bush Jr invaded Iraq? Let’s Roll!!!
Is that what you were thinking I was thinking?
Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period
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Is that what you were thinking I was thinking?
Nah, you missed it.
You should be asking "why were that many Israelis investigated, arrested and deported for 911 if Saudis did it"?
I'd answer "gee Ron, I don't know, JOOOOOOZ, wrack it up as antisemitic "
Why was Iraq invaded if the Saudi’s did it?
The official version is, regarding your five Jews, who worked for a moving company, a thorough FBI investigation concluded that while their behavior was highly inappropriate, they had no prior knowledge of or involvement in the attacks. They were subsequently deported to Israel for visa violations. This real event became the origin of the "dancing Israelis" 9/11 conspiracy theory.
They were photographing the burning World Trade Center across the river and appeared to be acting in a festive, lighthearted manner—smiling, hugging, and high-fiving. Disturbed by their lack of shock, the witness reported the moving van’s license plate to the police. The five men were detained for 71 days, subjected to exhaustive interrogations, and given multiple polygraph tests. Despite being cleared by U.S. law enforcement, the incident was quickly weaponized by conspiracy theorists.
Then over time, accounts morphing from "acting jovially while taking photos" into "choreographed dancing in the streets" spread widely.
Then, the 9/11 attacks did not result in a US invasion of Saudi Arabia because the Saudi government was a critical strategic ally (with lots of oil), and the hijackers were part of Al-Qaeda, a non-state terrorist network that opposed the Saudi regime itself.
Then the United States invaded Afghanistan in 2001 because the ruling Taliban regime refused to hand over Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda leadership, and Bush Jr had to attack someone. The subsequent invasion of Iraq in 2003 was separate and highly controversial.
The Bush administration justified the Iraq War by claiming Saddam Hussein possessed Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMDs) and alleging vague, unproven ties between the Iraqi regime and Al-Qaeda, and they still needed Saudi oil. Congress passed the Homeland Security Act of 2002 to merge 22 separate federal agencies—such as FEMA, the Coast Guard, and Customs—into one single Cabinet department.
Then the 9/11 Commission found "strong evidence" that Iran facilitated the transit of al-Qaeda operatives. Iranian border inspectors were instructed not to stamp the passports of al-Qaeda members traveling through Iran to and from Afghanistan, which allowed them to move internationally without raising suspicion. At least eight of the 9/11 "muscle" hijackers utilized this route. The Commission found no evidence that Iran or its proxy Hezbollah had foreknowledge of, or intentionally funded, the specific 9/11 plot.
Saudi Arabia was long considered the primary geographical source of al-Qaeda’s money. 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens, as was Osama bin Laden. Millions of dollars flowed from wealthy Saudi nationals and poorly monitored state-linked charities
(such as the Al-Haramain Foundation).Then the Bakken oil field became heavily utilized by the United States during the late 2000s and early 2010s, driven by the rapid expansion of modern horizontal drilling and multi-stage hydraulic fracturing (fracking)
.Then President Donald Trump ordered the January 2026 military intervention in Venezuela publicly to stop drug trafficking and remove an authoritarian leader, but critics, analysts, and Trump's own statements show the real motivations were gaining control of Venezuela's oil and asserting regional power.
That brings us to the last six months and a few odd days. Am I warm in your opinion?
The United States has struck Larak Island in southern Iran in the first attack against the country since late July, a US official has confirmed to Al Jazeera.
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Tehran vowed to retaliate for Sunday’s attack. The strikes risk renewing the military confrontation as the US shifts from the bombing campaign to a financial pressure strategy as the US-Israel war on Iran enters its seventh month. The US official said the strikes targeted launchers that were set to fire rockets carrying mines towards the Strait of Hormuz.
“This act will be responded to by the sons of Islamic Iran and will result in punishment of the aggressor,” the IRGC said in a statement. Negotiations with Tehran are at a stalemate, the Strait of Hormuz remains effectively closed, Americans are increasingly frustrated with the protracted conflict and defence officials are worried about depleted stockpiles.
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In recent weeks, the US has been claiming control over the strategic waterway, saying that it is managing to get millions of barrels of oil through the strait under its military protection even as Iran blockades the waterway.Still, attacks on ships in Hormuz have been reported almost daily, and Iran has maintained that the strait is closed.
Sunday’s strikes show that the US is still willing to use military force despite the focus on sanctions to pressure Iran to make concessions over its nuclear programme and claims of control over Hormuz. Iran has previously responded to similar US attacks by launching missiles and drones at military bases hosting US troops in neighbouring countries.
US officials have been touting what they describe as Iran’s loss of control over Hormuz while arguing that the country is on the verge of economic collapse due to sanctions and the military blockade against its ports. Tehran, however, has remained defiant, stressing that it is prepared for a long conflict.
On Saturday, Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi dismissed reports that the US is managing to get large amounts of oil out of Hormuz. “Our intelligence shows major efforts to game energy markets,” Araghchi wrote on X. “US Govt elements use gullible media to influence prices for personal gain and keep [Trump] mired in a losing war. Israel-aligned actors also promote war with rosy assessments. U.S. consumers feel the real bottom line.”
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US strikes Iranian launchers on Larak Island in first known attack in weeks — BBC News
Iran says the attack killed some civilians and is the first known US strike on Iran since late July.
“This act will be responded to by the sons of Islamic Iran and will result in punishment of the aggressor,” the IRGC said in a statement. Negotiations with Tehran are at a stalemate, the Strait of Hormuz remains effectively closed, Americans are increasingly frustrated with the protracted conflict and defence officials are worried about depleted stockpiles.
US strikes Iran for first time in a month — The Telegraph
Rocket launchers targeted in Hormuz strait after military chiefs tell Hegseth not to extend war
Sunday’s strikes show that the US is still willing to use military force despite the focus on sanctions to pressure Iran to make concessions over its nuclear programme and claims of control over Hormuz. Iran has previously responded to similar US attacks by launching missiles and drones at military bases hosting US troops in neighbouring countries.
US officials have been touting what they describe as Iran’s loss of control over Hormuz while arguing that the country is on the verge of economic collapse due to sanctions and the military blockade against its ports. Tehran, however, has remained defiant, stressing that it is prepared for a long conflict.
On Saturday, Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi dismissed reports that the US is managing to get large amounts of oil out of Hormuz. “Our intelligence shows major efforts to game energy markets,” Araghchi wrote on X. “US Govt elements use gullible media to influence prices for personal gain and keep [Trump] mired in a losing war. Israel-aligned actors also promote war with rosy assessments. U.S. consumers feel the real bottom line.”
US strikes Iran's Larak Island in first attack in weeks — Al Jazeera
IRGC says attack in southern Iran killed and injured several soldiers.
Iran's energy hub of Kharg Island is being blown to smithereens, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday in a one-line social media post accompanied by an AI-generated video clip.
There was no other evidence that the Iranian energy hub was under attack. The White House and the U.S. Defense Department did not immediately respond to Reuters requests for comment outside regular business hours.
Reuters confirmed that an accompanying video clip showing dramatic explosions was most likely synthetically-generated, using software that detects AI-manipulated imagery.
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Iran responded to an earlier U.S. attack on rocket launchers on its island of Larak, about 660 km (410 miles) east of Kharg, with an assault on two U.S. bases in Jordan, Iranian media said.
Washington Post military affairs reporter Dan Lamothe defended his colleagues’ work with a response to Parnell. “Independent journalism is not a crime,” he said. “It’s also especially important at a time when government officials are withholding key details and concerns about a war being fought on behalf of the American people with their taxpayer dollars.”
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There was no other evidence that the Iranian energy hub was under attack. The White House and the U.S. Defense Department did not immediately respond to Reuters requests for comment outside regular business hours.
Reuters confirmed that an accompanying video clip showing dramatic explosions was most likely synthetically-generated, using software that detects AI-manipulated imagery.
Trump says Iran's Kharg is being 'blown to smithereens', but gives no details — Reuters
Iran's energy hub of Kharg Island is being blown to smithereens, U.S. President Donald Trump said on Sunday in a one-line social media post accompanied by an AI-generated video clip.
Washington Post military affairs reporter Dan Lamothe defended his colleagues’ work with a response to Parnell. “Independent journalism is not a crime,” he said. “It’s also especially important at a time when government officials are withholding key details and concerns about a war being fought on behalf of the American people with their taxpayer dollars.”
Pentagon erupts over classified leak of Iran war dissent — The Hill
The Pentagon is seething over a Washington Post report that top military leaders recently warned Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth against extending large-scale Iran war operations.
Army Secretary Resigns After Months of Friction With Hegseth — The Wall Street Journal
Dan Driscoll had a close relationship with ousted Army chief of staff
Two tankers carrying Saudi oil attacked in Strait of Hormuz — Reuters
Two supertankers carrying Saudi oil were struck by unknown projectiles within minutes of each other while transiting outbound through the Strait of Hormuz late on Monday, according to shipping intelligence and tracking firms Marisks and Kpler.
Iran's state broadcaster said there had been reports of explosions on Iran's Qeshm Island, on the northern side of the strait. The state-linked news agency Nour News said there had been reports of explosions in the port city of Bandar Abbas and in Chabahar, a port on the southern coast. The state news agency IRNA also reported the sound of explosions in Jask and Sirik, and state media said U.S. forces attacked a civilian airport in Jiroft in southern Iran.
US launches new barrage of strikes on Iran around Strait of Hormuz — Reuters
The U.S. launched new air strikes on Iranian targets on Tuesday, in a move that threatened to reignite the six-month-old conflict that has driven global energy prices higher and weighed heavily on President Donald Trump's popularity at home.
Thats what a Zionist is. I can't believe you had no idea what a Zionist is. Your ignorance knows no bounds.
What is a zionist
A Zionist is a person who supports the development and continued existence of a Jewish nation-state in the ancestral homeland of the Jewish people, historically referred to as the Land of Israel. [1, 2]
Rights...thats why oppose the brand of Zionist/Jew Supremacists that thinks it is unique and superior to not just Palestinians but you and me too. Are you an inferior subhuman Goyim? I know I'm not. How the hell is this acceptable? Would White Power ever hold the balance of power in Canada? Could they even exist let alone hold top positions in our society? Don't you dare say they don't exist or are a fringe element. The fringe would never be incharge of the nation's finance or its national security.
Jewish supremacy refers to the ideological belief in Jewish superiority over non-Jews, as well as a critical concept used in political and sociological discourse regarding state policies and ethno-nationalism. [1]
Conceptual Context and Discourse
- Israeli-Palestinian Conflict: Critics, human rights organizations (such as B'Tselem), and various scholars use the term to describe what they characterize as institutionalized discrimination, land policies, and legal frameworks—such as Israel's Nation-State Law—that prioritize Jewish citizens over Palestinian residents and non-Jews. [1, 2, 3]
- Political Movements: Far-right extremist ideologies, such as Kahanism and political parties like Otzma Yehudit, have historically been accused of promoting Jewish supremacy and anti-Arab policie
How far are you willing to go to fight for equality and the existence of Canada. If the US made us the 51st State, cut your rights and freedoms, took your property, your voting rights, did everything it could to keep you from learning, earning getting healthcare, no passport and in the process murdered 1/3 of the population and another 1/3 fleeing for their lives?
Would you fight as hard as a Palestinian?
**B’Tselem, an Israeli human rights organization, published a 2021 position paper arguing that the entire area under Israeli control—from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River—is run as a single system designed to keep one group (Jews) dominant over another (Palestinians).**
Roughly equal numbers of Jews and Palestinians (around 7 million each at the time) live in this territory. The common view treats Israel proper as a democracy and the West Bank, East Jerusalem, and Gaza as a temporary military occupation. B’Tselem rejects that framing. It says the “temporary” situation has lasted more than half a century, hundreds of thousands of Israeli Jewish settlers live in permanent communities in the West Bank, East Jerusalem has been formally annexed, and the rest of the West Bank is treated in practice as Israeli territory. The organizing principle, according to the group, is maintaining Jewish supremacy across the whole area.
**In practice, this means Jews can live, move, and exercise full political rights across almost the entire territory as one continuous space, while Palestinians are split into separate categories with different (and always lesser) rights.** Inside Israel, Palestinian citizens have voting rights but face systematic inequality in land, resources, and political legitimacy. In annexed East Jerusalem they are mostly permanent residents who can vote only in local elections. In the West Bank they live under military rule in disconnected enclaves without political rights in the system that governs them. In Gaza they live under blockade with no political rights. Land is allocated primarily for Jewish communities and development; Palestinians are largely confined to crowded areas and face severe restrictions on building, movement, and citizenship. Jews anywhere in the world can immigrate and gain citizenship; Palestinians generally cannot. Millions of Palestinians are excluded from meaningful political participation in the regime that controls their lives.
B’Tselem concludes that a regime using laws, practices, and force to establish and maintain the supremacy of one group over another meets the definition of apartheid, even though the specific methods differ by location and the situation developed gradually rather than overnight. The paper points to the 2018 Nation-State Law and talk of further annexation as making the underlying principle more explicit. The organization presents this as a call to name the reality in order to change it toward equal rights.
The chance for Rights and Peace came and went 31 years ago.
This is probably new to you as well so take your time and absorb it before you dismiss it.
If you truly believe in Rights and Peace you'd feel the same way I do about fascist Netanyahu and the Jewish Supremacists he crawled in bed with. They are the reason why resistance factions like Hamas and Hezbollah exist and why Oct 7 happened.
There could have been a well established independent and free from tyranny and occupation Palestine and peace in the Middle East but Netanyahu has said repeatedly there will never be a Palestinian state as long as has the ability to stop it
The past 31 years of death and destruction could have been avoided. No second war with Iraq, no Iran war, no war with Afghanistan, no mes in Libya, no 3rd war with Hezbollah, no multiple slaughters and no utterly disgusting genocide in Gaza, no up coming Israel civil war when 700,000 terrorist "settlers" will be forced out of West Bank.
Expecting Rights and Peace through Netanyahu and his Jew Klux Klan cronies was downright silly.
Before you go off about no genocide, ask yourself "why didn't they let every damn journalist on the planet into Gaza to prove it wasn't happening?"
