Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period
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As soon as the terrorists stop firing rockets and cluster bombs into Israel, the war will stop. In the meantime, munitions industries in other parts of the world are raking in the coin.They say it out loud but if I say Greater Israel Project is real and disgusting I'm a Joo hater.
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This needs to be stopped NOW!
They aren't terrorists unless you're tits deep into some of the all time stupidest propaganda pitched by nut job evangelical christians and Jewish supremacists.
Are you an evangelical christian or Jewish supremacist?
BTW, Tel Aviv is on fire.
I have trouble figuring this one out. Google maps shows UAE on the other side of the strait. Doesn't this mean they own half the strait? Are they afraid of Iran? Or don't care?
Oman is the otherside.
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Assuming whatever has happened today has already happened in these negotiations.
Iranian state media reported that technical discussions began after progress was made in reducing attacks in southern Lebanon = against Hezbollah.
Look at the borders of “Oman” here. Oman has the point, & an agreement with Iran over the Strait of Hormuz.
I am a firm believer in democracy. Israel is the only country in the region that is even close to a democracy. The Muslim holy book demands they kill everyone not muslim. So, obviously Iran and their whacked out religious leaders are the problem, and always have been.
The fact that you as a resident in a more or less democratic country and a supposedly christian support muslim terrorists is disturbing.
Yet? Thought it was done already. Iran and Oman are discussing a potential agreement for shared management of the Strait of Hormuz, with reports suggesting a potential joint venture to charge transit fees on vessels following a two-week ceasefire, according to sources. While Iran aims for a deal to secure control of the waterway, Omani officials have stressed adherence to international law.
Iran is seeking to involve Oman in a joint plan to manage the waterway, which handles 20% of the world's oil supplies, but Omani Transport Minister Said al-Maawali has stated that, under existing international maritime agreements, the country cannot and will not impose fees on ships in the strait…so that’s the fly in that ointment then? While Iranian officials view Oman as a partner in this, they have noted that Oman is considered "part of, not the basis for" their strategy for the strait.
Iran’s future strategy for the Strait of Hormuz focuses on leveraging the narrow waterway as a "permanent toll booth" and strategic deterrent, aimed at legitimizing its control, exacting fees, and enforcing an, as discussed in The Conversation and outlined in Atlantic Council, by enforcing an asymmetric blockade against Western-aligned shipping while creating new regional maritime security pacts.
No idea, but that’s a good possibility. Maybe it’s more that Oman is physically small & wants the American base there to remain there as a deterrent to Iran & its other neighbours, and that might change if it sides with Iran in this global economic hostage situation with the Strait of Hormuz?
Ah yes, war monger, war monger, war monger blah, blah, blah. These people who are so concerned about Iran just talk & talk & talk without even knowing what is actually going on, not caring a bit about the thousands who were killed in the streets protesting against the theocracy or Lebanon where missiles are being shot from into Isreal - war monger war monger blah blah blah. How about we wait & see what is truly going on instead of listening to people who have no clue.
Iran's semi-official Tasnim news agency said the waterway remains among the main points of "serious disagreement" in talks between Iranian and U.S. delegations in Islamabad.
The U.S. military said two of its warships had passed through the strait and conditions were being set to clear mines, while Iran's state media denied any U.S. ships had transited the waterway.
"We're now starting the process of clearing out the Strait of Hormuz as a favor (?) to Countries all over the World," Trump posted on social media?
The war has sent global oil prices soaring, killed thousands of people and led to strikes on Gulf Arab states.
Before the talks began, a senior Iranian source told Reuters the U.S. had agreed to release frozen assets in Qatar and other foreign banks. But a U.S. official denied it.
As well as the release of assets abroad, Tehran is demanding control of the Strait of Hormuz, payment of war reparations and a ceasefire across the region including in Lebanon, according to Iranian state TV and officials.
Trump's stated goals have varied during the campaign, but as a minimum he wants free passage for global shipping through the strait and the crippling of Iran's nuclear enrichment programme to ensure it cannot produce an atomic bomb, but Iran has not publicly indicated it has any interest in abandoning its nuclear program.
U.S. ally Israel, which joined the February 28 attacks on Iran that launched the war, has also been bombing Tehran-backed Hezbollah militants in Lebanon and says that conflict is not part of the Iran-U.S. ceasefire. Israeli and Lebanese officials plan talks in the U.S. on Tuesday.
Tehran's agenda includes aiming to collect transit fees in the Strait of Hormuz, a chokepoint for about 20% of global oil and liquefied natural gas shipments.
Three Liberian- and Chinese-flagged supertankers passed through the strait on Saturday, shipping data showed, marking what appeared to be the first vessels to exit the Gulf since the ceasefire. The vessels were monitored in the "Hormuz Passage trial anchorage" while navigating around Larak Island, with the Serifos bound for Malaysia's Malacca port.
While it is not explicitly confirmed if these specific three tankers paid a fee, they passed during a period where Iran has been actively enforcing a "tollbooth" system, demanding payment in Chinese yuan or cryptocurrency to allow passage.
Having achieved its chokehold on this vital waterway, Iran seems determined to formalise it, calling it sovereign Iranian water and talking about a new set of rules to govern what can and can't pass through.
U.S. Vice President JD Vance, special envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner flew in on Saturday and met Iranian Parliamentary Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi for two hours before a rest, according to a source from mediator Pakistan.
"There were mood swings from the two sides and the temperature went up and down during the meeting," another Pakistani source said in reference to the first round of talks aimed at ending the six-week conflict.
Iran's state-affiliated Nournews said talks would resume later on Saturday night or Sunday.
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Iran's network of regional allies and proxies – Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, Hamas in Gaza and an assortment of militias in Iraq – has given Tehran regional clout, allowing Iran to exercise what is often called "forward defence" in its long-running disputes with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the governments of Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon, as well as the United States.
Since the start of the Gaza war in October 2023, the network Iran calls the "Axis of Resistance" has been under constant attack. One part of it, the regime of the former Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, no longer exists. The new Syrian government has shifted toward distancing itself from Iran, with its leaders explicitly denouncing Iranian proxies as a regional threat and a detriment to Syrian stability. The new government has sought to break ties with Tehran and reduce the presence of Iranian-aligned militias.
After a session lasting more than two hours, Iran's Mehr News Agency reported that Washington had agreed to release Iran's frozen funds, a claim the United States subsequently denied. A senior Iranian source had told Reutersearlier that the potential unfreezing of assets held in Qatar and other foreign banks was "directly linked" to ensuring safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz.
The U.S. military said two of its warships had passed through the strait and conditions were being set to clear mines, while Iran's state media denied any U.S. ships had transited the waterway.
"We're now starting the process of clearing out the Strait of Hormuz as a favor (?) to Countries all over the World," Trump posted on social media?
The war has sent global oil prices soaring, killed thousands of people and led to strikes on Gulf Arab states.
Before the talks began, a senior Iranian source told Reuters the U.S. had agreed to release frozen assets in Qatar and other foreign banks. But a U.S. official denied it.
As well as the release of assets abroad, Tehran is demanding control of the Strait of Hormuz, payment of war reparations and a ceasefire across the region including in Lebanon, according to Iranian state TV and officials.
Trump's stated goals have varied during the campaign, but as a minimum he wants free passage for global shipping through the strait and the crippling of Iran's nuclear enrichment programme to ensure it cannot produce an atomic bomb, but Iran has not publicly indicated it has any interest in abandoning its nuclear program.
U.S. ally Israel, which joined the February 28 attacks on Iran that launched the war, has also been bombing Tehran-backed Hezbollah militants in Lebanon and says that conflict is not part of the Iran-U.S. ceasefire. Israeli and Lebanese officials plan talks in the U.S. on Tuesday.
Tehran's agenda includes aiming to collect transit fees in the Strait of Hormuz, a chokepoint for about 20% of global oil and liquefied natural gas shipments.
Three Liberian- and Chinese-flagged supertankers passed through the strait on Saturday, shipping data showed, marking what appeared to be the first vessels to exit the Gulf since the ceasefire. The vessels were monitored in the "Hormuz Passage trial anchorage" while navigating around Larak Island, with the Serifos bound for Malaysia's Malacca port.
While it is not explicitly confirmed if these specific three tankers paid a fee, they passed during a period where Iran has been actively enforcing a "tollbooth" system, demanding payment in Chinese yuan or cryptocurrency to allow passage.
Having achieved its chokehold on this vital waterway, Iran seems determined to formalise it, calling it sovereign Iranian water and talking about a new set of rules to govern what can and can't pass through.
U.S. Vice President JD Vance, special envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner flew in on Saturday and met Iranian Parliamentary Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi for two hours before a rest, according to a source from mediator Pakistan.
"There were mood swings from the two sides and the temperature went up and down during the meeting," another Pakistani source said in reference to the first round of talks aimed at ending the six-week conflict.
Iran's state-affiliated Nournews said talks would resume later on Saturday night or Sunday.
US-Iran negotiations underway, Trump says Strait of Hormuz being cleared — Reuters
U.S. and Iranian negotiators held their highest-level talks in half a century in Pakistan on Saturday to try to end their six-week war as President Donald Trump said his military was starting the process of clearing the Strait of Hormuz.
Since the start of the Gaza war in October 2023, the network Iran calls the "Axis of Resistance" has been under constant attack. One part of it, the regime of the former Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, no longer exists. The new Syrian government has shifted toward distancing itself from Iran, with its leaders explicitly denouncing Iranian proxies as a regional threat and a detriment to Syrian stability. The new government has sought to break ties with Tehran and reduce the presence of Iranian-aligned militias.
After a session lasting more than two hours, Iran's Mehr News Agency reported that Washington had agreed to release Iran's frozen funds, a claim the United States subsequently denied. A senior Iranian source had told Reutersearlier that the potential unfreezing of assets held in Qatar and other foreign banks was "directly linked" to ensuring safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz.
Iranian, U.S. delegations have "serious disagreement" over Strait of Hormuz: report
Iranian, U.S. delegations have "serious disagreement" over Strait of Hormuz: report-
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Why on Earth should they open it?Iran's semi-official Tasnim news agency said the waterway remains among the main points of "serious disagreement" in talks between Iranian and U.S. delegations in Islamabad.
The U.S. military said two of its warships had passed through the strait and conditions were being set to clear mines, while Iran's state media denied any U.S. ships had transited the waterway.
"We're now starting the process of clearing out the Strait of Hormuz as a favor (?) to Countries all over the World," Trump posted on social media?
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The war has sent global oil prices soaring, killed thousands of people and led to strikes on Gulf Arab states.
Before the talks began, a senior Iranian source told Reuters the U.S. had agreed to release frozen assets in Qatar and other foreign banks. But a U.S. official denied it.
As well as the release of assets abroad, Tehran is demanding control of the Strait of Hormuz, payment of war reparations and a ceasefire across the region including in Lebanon, according to Iranian state TV and officials.
Trump's stated goals have varied during the campaign, but as a minimum he wants free passage for global shipping through the strait and the crippling of Iran's nuclear enrichment programme to ensure it cannot produce an atomic bomb, but Iran has not publicly indicated it has any interest in abandoning its nuclear program.
U.S. ally Israel, which joined the February 28 attacks on Iran that launched the war, has also been bombing Tehran-backed Hezbollah militants in Lebanon and says that conflict is not part of the Iran-U.S. ceasefire. Israeli and Lebanese officials plan talks in the U.S. on Tuesday.
Tehran's agenda includes aiming to collect transit fees in the Strait of Hormuz, a chokepoint for about 20% of global oil and liquefied natural gas shipments.
Three Liberian- and Chinese-flagged supertankers passed through the strait on Saturday, shipping data showed, marking what appeared to be the first vessels to exit the Gulf since the ceasefire. The vessels were monitored in the "Hormuz Passage trial anchorage" while navigating around Larak Island, with the Serifos bound for Malaysia's Malacca port.
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While it is not explicitly confirmed if these specific three tankers paid a fee, they passed during a period where Iran has been actively enforcing a "tollbooth" system, demanding payment in Chinese yuan or cryptocurrency to allow passage.
Having achieved its chokehold on this vital waterway, Iran seems determined to formalise it, calling it sovereign Iranian water and talking about a new set of rules to govern what can and can't pass through.
U.S. Vice President JD Vance, special envoy Steve Witkoff and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner flew in on Saturday and met Iranian Parliamentary Speaker Mohammad Baqer Qalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araqchi for two hours before a rest, according to a source from mediator Pakistan.
"There were mood swings from the two sides and the temperature went up and down during the meeting," another Pakistani source said in reference to the first round of talks aimed at ending the six-week conflict.
Iran's state-affiliated Nournews said talks would resume later on Saturday night or Sunday.
Iran's network of regional allies and proxies – Hezbollah in Lebanon, the Houthis in Yemen, Hamas in Gaza and an assortment of militias in Iraq – has given Tehran regional clout, allowing Iran to exercise what is often called "forward defence" in its long-running disputes with Israel, Saudi Arabia, the governments of Iraq, Yemen, Syria, and Lebanon, as well as the United States.US-Iran negotiations underway, Trump says Strait of Hormuz being cleared — Reuters
U.S. and Iranian negotiators held their highest-level talks in half a century in Pakistan on Saturday to try to end their six-week war as President Donald Trump said his military was starting the process of clearing the Strait of Hormuz.
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Since the start of the Gaza war in October 2023, the network Iran calls the "Axis of Resistance" has been under constant attack. One part of it, the regime of the former Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad, no longer exists. The new Syrian government has shifted toward distancing itself from Iran, with its leaders explicitly denouncing Iranian proxies as a regional threat and a detriment to Syrian stability. The new government has sought to break ties with Tehran and reduce the presence of Iranian-aligned militias.
After a session lasting more than two hours, Iran's Mehr News Agency reported that Washington had agreed to release Iran's frozen funds, a claim the United States subsequently denied. A senior Iranian source had told Reutersearlier that the potential unfreezing of assets held in Qatar and other foreign banks was "directly linked" to ensuring safe passage through the Strait of Hormuz.
Iranian, U.S. delegations have "serious disagreement" over Strait of Hormuz: report
Iranian, U.S. delegations have "serious disagreement" over Strait of Hormuz: report-english.news.cn
Peace negotiations. Why on Earth should Israel stop fighting back against Hezbollah in Lebanon? Peace negotiations. Why should Trump stop attacking Iranian civilian infrastructure?
Time will tell. Both sides claim to have won and both side sides are waiting for the other to capitulate, so yeah, no reason whatsoever I guess, by anyone on any side of this latest chapter in the goat rodeo. If this Islamabad thing is just for optics for both sides, then neither has any real motivation to do anything except point fingers and take selfies I guess.