INTELLECT vs. WISDOM

Francis2004

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That is funny. A month ago the Dollar Store was selling little plastic Canadian flags that you fit in one of the back windows and buzz the window up to hold it in place. We thought we were pretty clever because the flag sticks up over a foot above the roof of the car and we could pick out our car from a distance. We looked very patriotic but the big thing was that we could find our damn car. Then the Olympics came along and there were dozens of these damn flags in every parking lot. We've had to revert back to using the remote thingy to beep the horn. Progress?...;-):smile:

Ever think of just making a #1 ( play on #juan or other unique design ) Flag of your own :?:

I guess using one of my old Canucks Flags I could easily make one up.. Best of all it would not cost me anything more now that the rest of the flag is worn out..

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SirJosephPorter

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Yep, emotion screws up a lot of people and generally works in the opposite direction of wisdom. That's how these car salesmen get so rich and why when you are buying a car they like you to bring the "little woman" along.

I disagree; wisdom and emotions are not incompatible. Indeed, emotion is an essential, an integral part of wisdom.

One can have intelligence without wisdom. Thus a teenage boy or girl may have high level of intelligence (high IQ), but usually has very little wisdom.

Wisdom comes from knowledge, but knowledge by itself is not wisdom. An encyclopedia is full of information, but no wisdom. Wisdom is the ability to analyze the knowledge obtained with intelligence and form conclusions based upon that.

Emotions play a big part in wisdom. Thus, knowledge may tell you that it is wrong to lie; Wisdom tells you that sometimes it is better to lie than tell the truth. While intelligence may tell you that logical response is the best, wisdom may tell you that in this particular instance, an emotional response would be better.
 

Curiosity

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Hi Sir Joseph

Agree with your suggestion however emotions can also impact wisdom negatively skewing a clear and positive viewpoint if a person has bias and is unable to weigh all sides of a topic or issue regardless of his/her learned "wisdom".

People will often go headstrong into what they know is something to be avoided
because of an affinity for whatever that decision or activity or thought or opinion is.

An example:
A learned professor or practitioner of medicine is an addict or alcoholic on his/her personal time and only on occasion.
 

JLM

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I disagree; wisdom and emotions are not incompatible. Indeed, emotion is an essential, an integral part of wisdom.

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I didn't say they were incompatible- I said they often work in opposite directions. Here's an example- A guy is looking at an expensive car he really likes but his wisdom tells him that the monthly payments would stretch his budget to the limit and he'd have to forgo certain conveniences and niceties that he enjoys, but on second thought it's a beautiful car, it's a once in a lifetime purchase, after all these years of working so hard I deserve it, I could manage if I cut out two golf games a week, and I shaved $100 a week off the wife's allowance and the wife could take that part time job that's been offered her.
 

china

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Modern education, in developing the intellect, offers more and more theories and facts, without bringing about the understanding of the total process of human existence. We are highly intellectual; we have developed cunning minds, and are caught up in explanations. The intellect is satisfied with theories and explanations, but intelligence is not; and for the understanding of the total process of existence, there must be an integration of the mind and heart in action.Wisdom is not separate from love.
 

SirJosephPorter

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I didn't say they were incompatible- I said they often work in opposite directions. Here's an example- A guy is looking at an expensive car he really likes but his wisdom tells him that the monthly payments would stretch his budget to the limit and he'd have to forgo certain conveniences and niceties that he enjoys, but on second thought it's a beautiful car, it's a once in a lifetime purchase, after all these years of working so hard I deserve it, I could manage if I cut out two golf games a week, and I shaved $100 a week off the wife's allowance and the wife could take that part time job that's been offered her.

Sure, emotion can have good effect or bad effect on wisdom. Now, we are all familiar with bad effect of emotion. But sometimes wisdom tells us that it is better to go with emotion than logic.

For instance, suppose the wife asks you “Do I look fat in this dress?”, logic may tell you to answer yes, but wisdom tells you to answer no, to keep peace in the house.

Or say husband has an old tattered coat which the wife wants to throw away but the husband wouldn’t let her. Then the coat gets stolen or gets caught in something and gets torn beyond use.

The logic may tell the wife to do cartwheels with joy, but the wisdom tells her to show sympathy to the husband, for losing his favorite coat.

So sometimes emotion can influence wisdom in a positive way.
 

JLM

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Sure, emotion can have good effect or bad effect on wisdom. Now, we are all familiar with bad effect of emotion. But sometimes wisdom tells us that it is better to go with emotion than logic.

For instance, suppose the wife asks you “Do I look fat in this dress?”, logic may tell you to answer yes, but wisdom tells you to answer no, to keep peace in the house.

Or say husband has an old tattered coat which the wife wants to throw away but the husband wouldn’t let her. Then the coat gets stolen or gets caught in something and gets torn beyond use.

The logic may tell the wife to do cartwheels with joy, but the wisdom tells her to show sympathy to the husband, for losing his favorite coat.

So sometimes emotion can influence wisdom in a positive way.

OK- You've sold me.
 

talloola

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I disagree; wisdom and emotions are not incompatible. Indeed, emotion is an essential, an integral part of wisdom.

One can have intelligence without wisdom. Thus a teenage boy or girl may have high level of intelligence (high IQ), but usually has very little wisdom.

Wisdom comes from knowledge, but knowledge by itself is not wisdom. An encyclopedia is full of information, but no wisdom. Wisdom is the ability to analyze the knowledge obtained with intelligence and form conclusions based upon that.

Emotions play a big part in wisdom. Thus, knowledge may tell you that it is wrong to lie; Wisdom tells you that sometimes it is better to lie than tell the truth. While intelligence may tell you that logical response is the best, wisdom may tell you that in this particular instance, an emotional response would be better.

No one is suggesting that emotion be cancelled, so that one
can be wise, but when one is young, emotion often plays
too strong a role, and gets in the way of the wiseness
of one's statements, later on one can have the nice balance
of all. intelligence, knowledge, wisdom and emotion.

No one is interested in chatting with a robot.
 

JLM

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Good question about politically correct and wisdom. I think it's a tough one to use all of one's intellect because politics involve a great deal of emotional input and bias too - and it's a tough struggle to remain purely responsible or knowledgable to reality or facts.

It's ironic but most often the ones you are trying to protect like the lame, the deaf and the blind with phrases like "****** challenged", or "****** impaired" are the ones who are laughing the hardest. WHAT is wrong with "lame", "deaf" or "blind"?
 

Curiosity

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It's ironic but most often the ones you are trying to protect like the lame, the deaf and the blind with phrases like "****** challenged", or "****** impaired" are the ones who are laughing the hardest. WHAT is wrong with "lame", "deaf" or "blind"?

JLM

You nailed that one - especially on me - I write like a stuffy school teacher because I am wading through the bomb-laced fields when it comes to "politically correct" when in real life I have more freedom knowing the audience which will read or hear my intent. I too am challenged when it comes to common sense.