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petros

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You were a surveyor correct? Did it require more than just geometry?

Would you even hire a rodman without a grade 12?
 

JLM

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You were a surveyor correct? Did it require more than just geometry?

Would you even hire a rodman without a grade 12?

Yep, surveying was much different when I started, you HAD to fully understand trigonometry and even be able to derive formulas from scratch. There were no battery operated calculators then, not until about 1973. Rodmen on any sustained basis are obsolete today, sure you might use one on a building lot, but it's a lot different from running 20 or 30 miles of levels. The instruments used today have all the math built in, for general day to day performance you don't even have to understand a sine or a cosine. To establish co ordinates, bearing and elevations we used to have to find a couple of monuments and a bench mark. Today they just fix on 8 or 9 satellites and check it two or three times.

I've found about 95% of the time the way you are treated is a direct reflection on how you treat people, and about 99% of the hassels can be avoided by simply getting the waitress to repeat the order back.
 

petros

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I have and use a total station, somebody still has to hold the prism. The GPS units are too slow but great for setting your Control Point.
 

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I have and use a total station, somebody still has to hold the prism. The GPS units are too slow.

You're out of date, now they set up the total station and head out with the prism which has controls installed on it, they hold it up press a button and when they hear a beep move on to the next point.
 

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I just moved to Calgary from BC.. I have to go back to BC at month end to get my furniture, kitchen wares.. and back to home cooked meals. As a trucker, unfortunately I eat lot's of fast food.. as I am sure too many are guilty off.. after my move is complete.. I am going on a diet.. The Dr Bernstein diet..

My goal is to lose 25 lbs.

*cringe* you're joking, right? Dr.B's is like any other hokey diet scheme.... their patients tend to gain back the weight plus ten as soon as they can't stay on the super restrictive diet anymore.

Don't diet... see a nutritionist and get a trainer, but don't diet. The health care system is trying SO hard to discourage dieting right now. Consider the fact that most severely obese patients are chronic dieters, and don't start down that horrid road.
 

petros

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You're out of date, now they set up the total station and head out with the prism which has controls installed on it, they hold it up press a button and when they hear a beep move on to the next point.
Mine does that. Everything is preset off the CAD program but if the rodman doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground he/she is going to waste a ****load of time. When profiling you don't have the luxury of presets.
 

lone wolf

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when the bill says 10 double cheeseburgers and they put in 10 mcnuggets... this is not a Typo Has nothing to do with the register... It is their inability to learn the predominant language in the country they are in. This is not the only time it has happened. I appreciate you trying to defend these people immigrating... but lets face it, They think its up to us to learn their language as its too much of an inconvenience to learn the language in the country they are coming to.
Go ahead and read whatever you want into what I said. That doesn't make you intelligent ... just a gossip

Great example of miscommunication, eh? ...and you're "from here" too :roll:
 
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And i think big corporations are trying to push all salaries down to minimum wage,ecept the fat cats,they'll raise theirs beyond whats reasonable.

And you can hardly blame them, Gov't keeps mindlessly ramping up minimum wage, which has been going on since the 50s and hasn't really benefitted a single person in real spending terms. When the tide is up all the boats are still at the same level! :lol:
 

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They think its up to us to learn their language as its too much of an inconvenience to learn the language in the country they are coming to.
Yeah, but it's the Europeans that started that practise in North America near the end of the 15th century. lol

It's not the food that make people over weight.. It's their activity levels.
Not quite. It is a combination of a few things that makes people overweight.
I don't care how active uyou are, if you consume more than you can burn off, you'll gain weight.
And then there is this:
http://news.discovery.com/earth/air-pollution-obesity-120315.html

Exactly. It's like those asswholes who bring every lottery ticket purchased in the last year into a convenience store, then split their $18 winnings on assorted new tickets while 5 work commuters wait behind him. "No, give me two of these, three of those..wait, instead lets get a 649 quick pick, try my lucky Max numbers ... uh not sure if I want the extra .. what are the odds on Ride' M Cowboy $1 dollar scratches?"

The rest of us are like, 'will you get the fck out of here you thoughtless prick! Why don't you just make a bonfire with that crap?'
lol No-one ever had to wait for you.

Your mother likely had to go through a lot of pain waiting for you to decide to emerge.

Good one Kreskin, then there are the little old ladies (and some young ones) who stand at the checkout counter while $200 worth of groceries are tallied up, THEN they open up their purse and fumble around then ask "what's the total again", "oh $200. 26, hold on I may have the change, fumble, fumble, finally digging out the 26 cents including 16 pennies.
Perhaps they only had $200.27 to begin with.
 

eh1eh

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How does 10 double cheeseburgers sound like 10 chicken nuggets? That is what I had happen here in regina. Took food back showed them bill and then asked what was wrong with this picture? They said it was an honest mistake. Hmmmmmmmmmm well if you can't read the order why are you packaging it? What is worse is that I am all for new immigrants to have jobs here but there is one thing they need to understand, This is Canada, we do not speak punjabi, philippino, chinese, japanese, spanish, etc... LEARN TO SPEAK ENGLISH OR GET OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And you live north of the 49th. I am ashamed for you.
 

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Yep, surveying was much different when I started, you HAD to fully understand trigonometry and even be able to derive formulas from scratch. There were no battery operated calculators then, not until about 1973. Rodmen on any sustained basis are obsolete today, sure you might use one on a building lot, but it's a lot different from running 20 or 30 miles of levels. The instruments used today have all the math built in, for general day to day performance you don't even have to understand a sine or a cosine. To establish co ordinates, bearing and elevations we used to have to find a couple of monuments and a bench mark. Today they just fix on 8 or 9 satellites and check it two or three times.

I've found about 95% of the time the way you are treated is a direct reflection on how you treat people, and about 99% of the hassels can be avoided by simply getting the waitress to repeat the order back.
Try getting lost in the bush with only a map and a compass. No GPS or other gadget.
Even better, try getting lost in the bush with only a plain jane wristwatch to use as a tool.

Mine does that. Everything is preset off the CAD program but if the rodman doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground he/she is going to waste a ****load of time. When profiling you don't have the luxury of presets.
lol Someone has to pack the gear around and act as a gofer.

And you can hardly blame them, Gov't keeps mindlessly ramping up minimum wage, which has been going on since the 50s and hasn't really benefitted a single person in real spending terms. When the tide is up all the boats are still at the same level! :lol:
To carry on with that process, gov't also wants more and more taxes to do less and less work, the greedy CEOs and their businesses keep wanting to raise profits, the average Joes and Jills want more pay to compensate for raised taxes and corporate profiteering, and then the idiotic cycle keeps feeding on itself.
 

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Try getting lost in the bush with only a map and a compass. No GPS or other gadget.
Even better, try getting lost in the bush with only a plain jane wristwatch to use as a tool.

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Tell me about it. I wandered around in the bush west of Lone Butte about 35 years ago for hours a $3 compass, the ground was dead flat, the sky was over cast, I was north of Hwy. 24, near the gas pipeline, but anyway I got turned around and wandered this road back and forth until I finally got fed up and found my way back to the way I walked in. One big mistake people do make is doubting their compass- even a cheap one doesn't lie unless there is a major ore deposit, which in B.C. would pretty well have to iron!
 

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First world problems, for first world pussies.
 

JLM

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lol Someone has to pack the gear around and act as a gofer.

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That was the good old days, pickets, stakes, axe, machete, chain saw, rod, chain, gas, oil, tools. Now a days for a lot of jobs you'll need a data collector, a couple of rolls of flagging, a few nails, if you are in the bush you hire a slashing crew for the time required and they can pack stakes etc. You don't even need a pencil anymore.
 

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That's easy stuff.
Been a few times out in the bush I've been disoriented (fairly easy when firefighting) but managed fairly easily to reorient myself simply using my watch.

First world problems, for first world pussies.
Reminds me of the city critters who move out here for the "peace n quiet" and then start moaning about having to drive so far to the nearest Canuck Tire for something or even into town to get their fave ice cream. I say imagine doing that when all you have to carry your dumb self is your feet.
 

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Reminds me of the city critters who move out here for the "peace n quiet" and then start moaning about having to drive so far to the nearest Canuck Tire for something or even into town to get their fave ice cream. I say imagine doing that when all you have to carry your dumb self is your feet.
Better yet, when they move out to gods country, and bring hell with them.
 

JLM

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To carry on with that process, gov't also wants more and more taxes to do less and less work, the greedy CEOs and their businesses keep wanting to raise profits, the average Joes and Jills want more pay to compensate for raised taxes and corporate profiteering, and then the idiotic cycle keeps feeding on itself.

Of course 99.9% of the whole problem is driven by greed. That's the reason the system is the way it is, you raise the wage slave 5% his wage goes up 50 cents while the C.E.O.s goes up $50. Neat system eh?
 

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And even when the person at the front counter who takes theorder, gets it in the system perfectly, exactly what the customer asks for.What really bugs me is when whoever is putting the meal together, messes up.The customer always reams out the person at the counter. Same as many otherjobs. It’s not necessarily the person who screwed up. It’s the person whoanswers the phone, is at the counter, is nearby. I see and hear that quite regularly.

And no, I am not a lackey, I’m a manager. And not at a fast food place.


A WAKE UP CALL FOR YOU - No one is a loser who will go out and take whatever work is available to prevent him/herself from being a burden on the public purse. There is much more to a job than the wage it pays, there's the skills and knowledge learned, there is the people you come in contact with (employers and C.E.O.s eat at Big Macs too) A person who has good long record at Big Macs can probably move up to White Spot or Dennys much easier.
JLM, Yay, thank you for your post. Your first sentence is right on the money.

I was building roads in the rocky mountains when you were pooping in your diapers then.

Too funny! That explains a lot of your posts.

Kids!
I started working in the bush running a triple 6 clark skidder in 78.
Quit school to do it.
My very first real job and I got 6 bucks an hour or pennies a tree for every tree I skidded into the landing.
If i skidded in 2 truckloads it got me about $60.
Im trying to add some info to this forum even though im getting trolled.

Kakato, I agree, Too funny!That does explain a lot of their posts. Theyare just ‘kids’."Kids"with 'sooo' much life experience.
They 'know' everything…. I see a lot of thattoo. (Especially in their first days of work, while they’re training.)