"Identify the Beast"

darkbeaver

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Dexter Sinister

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How did I fool you?
By getting me to think briefly that the totally nonsensical post you put up might be serious. I think whoever wrote it originally thought he was being serious, but you weren't. And if you want to know something about quantum precession, which I didn't mention BTW, look up the details of magnetic resonance imaging, it works essentially by using a tuned alternating electromagnetic field to make the spin of protons precess so hard they flip upside down. When they flip back they produce detectable signals. MRI really just maps the hydrogen content--which usually means water--of whatever it's imaging; the isolated protons in hydrogen nuclei respond strongly to it, protons bound with other protons and/or neutrons don't react so nicely. Same technology is used in geophysics for logging boreholes, except there it's called by its real name, nuclear magnetic resonance, because unlike the general public, geophysicists aren't afraid of something just because it has the word nuclear in it.
Why would I want to fool you?
You have to ask? It's just your fun-loving nature. :smile:
Was it about cats? Was it about your latent spiritualism via alchemy? Did I enjoy it?
No, no, and yes.
 

Dexter Sinister

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I heard it was 629.99.......rollbaccus.............WalMart8O8O??????????? sometimes pretty bestial.
Yes, $666 is the regular price, $629.99 is the Wal-Mart price of the beast. The beast also drives a BMW 666i, and has a black cat called Millibeast whose number is 0.666. The binary number of the beast is 1010011010 and the Roman numeral of the beast is DCLXVI. The beast common denominator is 1/666. The oven temperature for cooking roast beast is 666 degrees, and the beast has a computer with an Intel 80666 processor (one of a kind) that uses Lotus 666 for a spreadsheet and Word 6.66 for word processing and... ah, I could go on forever.
 

darkbeaver

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By getting me to think briefly that the totally nonsensical post you put up might be serious. I think whoever wrote it originally thought he was being serious, but you weren't. And if you want to know something about quantum precession, which I didn't mention BTW, look up the details of magnetic resonance imaging, it works essentially by using a tuned alternating electromagnetic field to make the spin of protons precess so hard they flip upside down. When they flip back they produce detectable signals. MRI really just maps the hydrogen content--which usually means water--of whatever it's imaging; the isolated protons in hydrogen nuclei respond strongly to it, protons bound with other protons and/or neutrons don't react so nicely. Same technology is used in geophysics for logging boreholes, except there it's called by its real name, nuclear magnetic resonance, because unlike the general public, geophysicists aren't afraid of something just because it has the word nuclear in it.
You have to ask? It's just your fun-loving nature. :smile:
No, no, and yes.

Thanks Dex I'll sleep tonight. I have to have an MRI soon for me knee job. I suppose I should read up a bit before. I'm an industrial mechanic Dex not a common member of the general public, we're all fusion powered ain't we?:smile:
 

Stretch

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Nice Guy?

or the Devil's Spawn?


He snorted cocaine ... He dodged the draft....His friends knew him as an alcoholic womanizer with a bad temper....a complete failure at business until his wealthy friends bailed him out. Yet within a few short years he was elected Governor of Texas, and quickly catapulted into the White House, in spite of losing the popular vote. He was re-elected with last minute help from Osama Bin Laden, in spite of high disapproval ratings. He still couldn't think his way out of a wet paper bag .....and yet he's declared an endless war and instituted some of the most radical political changes in American history ....
.......Howhas He done it?
http://www.bushisantichrist.com/

:smile:
 

jimshort19

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The Beast

The beast was Rome at the time of original writing. Now the instrument of the beast in the 'free' world may be credentialism, without papers one may neither buy nor sell (an exaggeration - in keeping with the original), nor travel, work or prosper.

The beast is the shared oppression personified, was one thing, and will be another. The beast was Berlin, the beast was Moscow. The beast has been killed many times.

The beast was and is and will be. Who or where or what will the beast be next?
 

MHz

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The beast appears in Daniel as well. It was a common allegorical way to represent the pagan empires that oppressed the true believers. The beast referenced in Rev. 13:1, with the usual 7 heads and 10 horns, is the Roman Empire. "The name of blasphemy" on its heads refers to worshiping the emperors as gods, which was really just a formality in public rituals intended to bind together the multicultural diversity of the empire, in much the same way as some nations salute their flags and recite pledges of allegiance. Christian refusal to take part in it made them objects of suspicion.
The Beast from Vs:18 is not the very same Beast that is in Vs:1, but they (18) are the two that end up in the lake at Christ's return. The Beast of Vs:1 is a fallen angel, that is what is released from the pit when the 5th trump sounds. Satan is the star that falls from Heaven, the beginning of what are the first two woes.
Rome is the 6th king, this Beast is the 8th. Satan is the one that opens the pit, that makes him the 7th. Rome is the one 'that is', the one that had rule over Jerusalem.
Re:17:10:
And there are seven kings:
five are fallen,
and one is,
and the other is not yet come;
and when he cometh,
he must continue a short space.
Re:17:11:
And the beast that was,
and is not,
even he is the eighth,
and is of the seven,
and goeth into perdition.

(before the flood he was, is not now because he is in the pit, will be again when Satan is given a key that releases him)

13:1- 7 heads & blasphemy, 7 characteristics that Satan has taught man since the fall, each and everyone is an abomination to God's way of how things should be done. Re:21:8 is a list of what God would 'fight against'.
-The 10 horns are this Beasts human 'helpers', horn could specify language (10 different languages) or it is just a reference to that 10 being able to make noise.
Re:17:12:
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings,
which have received no kingdom as yet;
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13:2-a reference to the beasts in, the 3 covered were armies of men, it does not cover the beast of Da:7:7, that is the iron of the statue, the clay of that statue is the 10 men that align themselves with this beast. They are not kingdoms before that 1 hour (so none can yet be named) but they have kingdoms after that hour. Satan has power over this Beast, same as he was the most powerful of all the fallen angels that existed with man before the flood.

13:3-the head with the deadly wound would be whatever sin the fallen angel committed that got him into the pit. That same (blasphemy) can again be practiced for the time he is 'doing things', wound healed.

13:4-Both Satan and him will be worshiped, some willingly, some through fear of death. Nobody will see them as being 'defeatable'.

To save space the next few verses are also about this same fallen angel, including the death of the two witnesses and the amount of time he has in total. So when it says worshiped above that applies right up to his demise.

Vs:11 is when the False Prophet is with this same Beast from the previous verses.
This is when Daniel put him as coming into power,
Da:7:8:
I considered the horns,
and,
behold,
there came up among them another little horn,
before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots:
and,
behold,
in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man,
and a mouth speaking great things.

Again this is shortened to save space.

Until relatively recently it was common to use letters of the alphabet to signify numbers, and there are still some people who do it. Jews, Greeks, and Romans all did it; Roman numerals are only the most obvious case. In Greek and Hebrew, every letter was assigned a numerical value, so of course any name made up of those letters could also be assigned a numerical value. Mystics assumed the words of the Bible must have numerical significance as well, and they spent a lot of time and energy trying to tease out meanings from them. It's called "gematria," a minor corruption of the Greek word that gave us "geometry." The number of the beast is the only significant example of gematria in the Bible.
One quick question, everybody, including me, sees his number as being 666. As obscure as God can be at times, can "Six hundred threescore and six" be written as 600606?

I hope this is clear and short enough.
 

BM5

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This is a challenge to all believers and non believers alike, have you wisdom?
I know who it is, and I dare say if I were to reveal it in this thread I will become an outcast.
So, I will give you all a chance to tell me if I am wrong, but first, lets hear it from you all, and at some point I will reveal it.

Peace>>>AJ



Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

The fact that you say you know won't say tells me that you are ignorant and are fishing, or that your idea of the matter is uncertain, or that you are afraid of the consequences as you say and are unworthy of the knowledge that you think you have due to cowardice.
 

look3467

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Thank you Dexter.

The beast is a lamb, the sacrificial lamb upon which all the sins of the world were placed on.

That makes Jesus a monster by comparison to say me, for I am responsible for my own sins, but He, for the worlds sins.

The number 666 is the same number doubled twice.

6 is the number of man, the first Adam. The first Adam brought us life in the flesh but also death or eternal separation.

God doubles twice before He brings it to pass.

Doubling then the first is a second Adam, that being Jesus as a man rectifies the first into a new 6 man Adam.

That new man Adam is what the bible calls the "new Creature" which is not of this world bu heavenly, yet can exist still in the flesh.

If you can understand all that, your fears of the Anti-Christ, the Devil, Satan, will open up a whole new understanding, mainly who wonderful God is.

Peace>>>AJ
 

BM5

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Thank you Dexter.

The beast is a lamb, the sacrificial lamb upon which all the sins of the world were placed on.

That makes Jesus a monster by comparison to say me, for I am responsible for my own sins, but He, for the worlds sins.

The number 666 is the same number doubled twice.

6 is the number of man, the first Adam. The first Adam brought us life in the flesh but also death or eternal separation.

God doubles twice before He brings it to pass.

Doubling then the first is a second Adam, that being Jesus as a man rectifies the first into a new 6 man Adam.

That new man Adam is what the bible calls the "new Creature" which is not of this world bu heavenly, yet can exist still in the flesh.

If you can understand all that, your fears of the Anti-Christ, the Devil, Satan, will open up a whole new understanding, mainly who wonderful God is.

Peace>>>AJ

Somebody outa revoke this guys subscription.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Thank you Dexter.
You're welcome. There is much we disagree on, but you're certainly no coward and I'll straighten out anyone who says you are.
If you can understand all that, your fears of the Anti-Christ, the Devil, Satan, will open up a whole new understanding, mainly who wonderful God is.
I have no fear of the Anti-Christ, the Devil, or Satan. Or God either for that matter. I do understand all that, I just think it's an incorrect view of reality. I know of no good reason to think any of those beings exist. Like I said, there is much we disagree on, but as far as I can tell you have never failed to be charitable and compassionate and honest, and that makes you worth knowing and talking to. If we agreed on everything there'd be nothing to talk about.
 

look3467

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Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

1. "Thrones and those who sat upon them"=The high priests, the Sanhedrin.

2. "Judgment was given to them", they were over Jesus in earthly power.

3. The souls beheaded=1 & 2 Above meaning, their standing with God was stolen from them by Christ when He said to them: Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

4. "witness of Jesus" =they made Jesus who Jesus represented by rejecting Him.

5."which had not worshiped the beast"= they rejected Jesus and "His image" of who He was.

6."neither did they receive His mark" (meaning recieved His massage) or "in their hands" (meaning did the work of Jesus)

7. "They lived and reigned with Christ one thousand years"= they saw to the end from the beginning of Jesus' travail to the cross, begun at sundown Friday eve at the Lords supper.

That one verse gives us a picture of what transpired that one day, as a thousand years to God is but one day.

Jesus, I hold as my Lord and Savior, my Redeemer and friend, on whose foundation I stand, and who has given me privilege to understand with great responsibility the mysteries of this one great day of the Lord, the day of His crucification.

The "lamb" of God who taketh away the sins of the world.

His name is written in my forehead (my minds heart) and the in my hands (Work of sharing this wonderful God of love to whomever He causes to cross my life's path.

There now is neither Jew nor Greek, but one body, and that body is Christ.

Peace>>>AJ