How will the media try and take down Andrew Scheer?

Cliffy

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Bar Sinister

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What the cons don't get is that the last election moved Canada farther to the left. Most Canadians want progressive social policies, not the same old BS about "lower taxes and balancing the budget" a catch phrase that usually means bigger tax breaks for the wealthy and erosion of social services. In addition, Scheer got a lot of support from the Conservative Party equivalent of the GOP, you know, the anti-abortion homophobic, anti-immigration crowd. Those policies are not only divisive, but most Canadians are hostile to them. Good luck to any Harper clone who tries to push them.
 

JLM

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What the cons don't get is that the last election moved Canada farther to the left. Most Canadians want progressive social policies, not the same old BS about "lower taxes and balancing the budget" a catch phrase that usually means bigger tax breaks for the wealthy and erosion of social services. In addition, Scheer got a lot of support from the Conservative Party equivalent of the GOP, you know, the anti-abortion homophobic, anti-immigration crowd. Those policies are not only divisive, but most Canadians are hostile to them. Good luck to any Harper clone who tries to push them.


It's a bitch when people want to "have their cake and eat it too"! :) I've found that many of the people who want more services DON'T want taxes increased. You just can't have it both ways, it won't work. I personally doubt if more taxes for more services is viable. I'd be willing to pay more taxes for one or two things, but services aren't one of them. Raising the living standards of the bottom 5% is. I also believe in a minimum standard for medical services- no one should be suffering in excruciating pain in 2015. :) :)
 

Bar Sinister

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It's a bitch when people want to "have their cake and eat it too"! :) I've found that many of the people who want more services DON'T want taxes increased. You just can't have it both ways, it won't work. I personally doubt if more taxes for more services is viable. I'd be willing to pay more taxes for one or two things, but services aren't one of them. Raising the living standards of the bottom 5% is. I also believe in a minimum standard for medical services- no one should be suffering in excruciating pain in 2015. :) :)

I must agree with you on a couple of points. Low taxes area always a bit deceiving in that it usually means the average citizen simply has to pay for more services out of pocket. A good example in a country like the UK which has higher taxes but a health care system that blows Canada's out of the water.
 

petros

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I must agree with you on a couple of points. Low taxes area always a bit deceiving in that it usually means the average citizen simply has to pay for more services out of pocket. A good example in a country like the UK which has higher taxes but a health care system that blows Canada's out of the water.

BC has a carbon tax, 7% PST, hydro electricity but you still have to pay $75 a month for health insurance.

BTW Canadian health care is Provincial, UK is Federal.
 

Corduroy

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They might try to mock his hair.

Why is the political right so prone to a conspiracy theory view of the world? C'mon Walter, you've got CNN and Fox clearly on your side in the U.S., the National Post clearly on your side in Canada, what do you want, that nobody should ever disagree with you?

They also have the Globe and Mail. In the last election they endorsed the Conservatives but not Stephen Harper and with have the Conservatives without Stephen Harper.
 

Musky

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He's a nice man, so it will have to be his policies. They already started on CBC by calling him Harper lite to his face.

He handled it well. Brushed it off.

Wow, after that insult what a man he is eh?

Harper was PM for ten years and calling him Harper lite is an insult?

 

Corduroy

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Calling him Harper lite is praise. Stephen Harper was a democratically successful PM and he made his party strong and viable. The last time a conservative party controlled the government it ended in them being wiped out. The subsequent Liberal government also ended in the party being wiped. Harper left the Conservative party as a strong opposition party. He broke the cycle.

Why did the Conservatives lose in 2015? Harper was unpopular but not grossly unpopular. The polls shifted from a strong NDP lead to a strong Liberal lead. People wanted change. If Scheer is "Harper lite" that's might be exactly what people want. "Harper lite" could have won in the election in 2015.

CBC called him Harper lite? They must be in the bag for Scheer.
 

Murphy

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The media is feeling him out like they do with all politicians. Find his interests, aggravations, hobbies, etc.

Over the coming weeks we will likely be bombarded with reports about him.
 

petros

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The media is feeling him out like they do with all politicians. Find his interests, aggravations, hobbies, etc.

Over the coming weeks we will likely be bombarded with reports about him.

Not much to know. Just a family man that got in the game young.
 

pgs

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Well that obviously explains your problem , eh Cliffy ?

What the cons don't get is that the last election moved Canada farther to the left. Most Canadians want progressive social policies, not the same old BS about "lower taxes and balancing the budget" a catch phrase that usually means bigger tax breaks for the wealthy and erosion of social services. In addition, Scheer got a lot of support from the Conservative Party equivalent of the GOP, you know, the anti-abortion homophobic, anti-immigration crowd. Those policies are not only divisive, but most Canadians are hostile to them. Good luck to any Harper clone who tries to push them.
Yes most Canadians want tax freedom day to be around December 25th .
 

Dexter Sinister

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He's a nice man, so it will have to be his policies. They already started on CBC by calling him Harper lite to his face.

He handled it well. Brushed it off.
He's called himself Harper with a smile, and in his victory speech he clearly identified himself as a Harper loyalist. Harper lite was really his invention, not the CBC's. I'm pretty sure he'll be the next PM, but probably not until 2023.

I must agree with you on a couple of points. Low taxes area always a bit deceiving in that it usually means the average citizen simply has to pay for more services out of pocket. A good example in a country like the UK which has higher taxes but a health care system that blows Canada's out of the water.
I've been watching and listening to governments for over 40 years. I also have all my income tax returns back to when I first started having to fill them out. No government has ever significantly lowered my tax bill. There have been some minor reductions, on the order of a few $hundred a year at most, just a pittance in the big picture. Any politicians who promise significant tax reductions are either lying or don't understand what they're talking about.
 

JLM

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He's called himself Harper with a smile, and in his victory speech he clearly identified himself as a Harper loyalist. Harper lite was really his invention, not the CBC's. I'm pretty sure he'll be the next PM, but probably not until 2023.


2023? We'll be a "dead" civilization by then- sort of like what Rome morphed into about 500 A.D.
 

Dexter Sinister

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Yeah, just what we need, religious domination of secular affairs, ruled by superstition and ignorance, a new Middle Ages. I hope you're wrong but I'm afraid you may not be.