How will Stephen Harper Spank Danny Williams over that "ABC" thing???
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I wish resources belong to the people nationally as well........but I might as well wish the sky was a deep forest green with orange polka-dots. The constitution says otherwise, and there is about as much chance of changing that as there is chance that the sun will rise tomorrow.......on a sky of deep forest green with orange polka-dots.
Ya gotta deal with what you got, and the constitution should not be ignored.
And lower energy costs for fossil fuels means increased GHGs
agreed.......with one exception......It matters not wht the price of fuel is...people will still make the trips they need to make...homes will still need to be heated, and if people can save a buck going to more energey efficient appliances/vehicles they will. For the most part it's not about the amount of GHG's they are spewing into the air, it's about saving the money on the bottom line. Even with gas prices being well over a buck this summer we still did a 3k trip in our gas guzzling motorhome, and we weren't the only Canadians to do that.
Source: globeandmail.com: Intolerable in a national party
Appearing two days later on CTV, Mr. Baker hardly backed away. If Stephen
Harper's Conservatives pursue a "vendetta" against Newfoundland Premier Danny
Williams, "a new political party in Newfoundland which would be comparable to
the Bloc" would be "inevitable" within three years' time. And would "the Bloc
Newfoundland and Labrador" press for a sovereignty referendum? "Well, how long
do you take it? ... We're not going to put up with this. The time is up. If they
keep doing this for another three years, what other option would there be?"
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Appearing two days later on CTV, Mr. Baker hardly backed away. If Stephen
Harper's Conservatives pursue a "vendetta" against Newfoundland Premier Danny
Williams, "a new political party in Newfoundland which would be comparable to
the Bloc" would be "inevitable" within three years' time. And would "the Bloc
Newfoundland and Labrador" press for a sovereignty referendum? "Well, how long
do you take it? ... We're not going to put up with this. The time is up. If they
keep doing this for another three years, what other option would there be?"
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There was actually talk of a maritime province "bloc". Squabbling between NS and Nfld put an end to it.
It would represent a significant factor though and definitely get more gov't cash directed their way
So it's Liberals supporting separatists. Why does that sound familiar? And everyone was worried that the federal conservatives would be spanking NL. If the Liberals have their way NL will be spanking themselves.
The George Baker comments are a non-issue in Newfoundland and Labrador. A quick review of the local papers in the province this morning didn’t turn up one story on Baker’s stance. The people of the province take Baker for what he is…a blowhole who talks out of his behind most times.
However, his comments don’t come as any surprise to me. He’s simply expressing the frustration that’s felt right across the province w.r.t. the federal government. All he’s done is kept the spotlight on Harper, further exposing the divisive nature of our so called leader and bringing pressure to bear on his political life.
Can someone explain to me how taking $1.5 billion out of a province’s coffers makes them a ‘have’ province? This move in the last federal budget has put NL at a serious disadvantage and has pushed the province back into ‘have not’ status. Way to go Canada.
However, his comments don’t come as any surprise to me. He’s simply expressing the frustration that’s felt right across the province w.r.t. the federal government. All he’s done is kept the spotlight on Harper, further exposing the divisive nature of our so called leader and bringing pressure to bear on his political life.
Can someone explain to me how taking $1.5 billion out of a province’s coffers makes them a ‘have’ province? This move in the last federal budget has put NL at a serious disadvantage and has pushed the province back into ‘have not’ status. Way to go Canada.
It's a little like living in your Mom's basement because you don't have a job, then when you find a job and start making some decent money, bitching cause mom won't pay your allowance anymore.
I think Harper has bigger fish to fry than Danny Boy. Danny is good for Nfld. he talks tough nudge, wink, so the Newfies get the message that Danny Boy is standing up to the Head Cheese and the Head Cheese understands that D.B. has a role to play for the folks at home. They both like each other.
Brilliant! Did you come up with that all on your own or did your mom tell you what to say?
So you consider NL a lost child living in Canada's basement, huh? That alone baffles the mind. I suggest you do some research and discover the real reasons for NL's disgruntled attitude. Be sure to go at it with an open mind though and don't be influenced by the rhetoric coming out of Ottawa or the Globe and Mail or your mom.
I think there are some jealousy issues here. I would not be surprised to find out that Stephen Harper actually wants to be like Danny Williams. Mr Williams represents Newfoundlanders, Harper does not represent the majority of Canadians. I've heard Mr. Williams donates his political salary to charity, if true very noble. I wonder how many other politicians do that? Seems like a stand up guy to me.
I don't think Harper cares about Atlantic Canada. Nobody cares but us Atlantic Canadians. Its obvious how everyone else in the country refers to Easterners as lazy, deadbeats or my personal favorite ... irrelevant. To this I say GFY. If we are so lazy then why is it that Alberta recruits so many of us to work their tar pits. I'm sure there are plenty "more intelligent and harder working cowboys" to dig your holes. Are there any cowboys left in Alberta? Ah, thats right. The rig-pig overlords drove them out of the province? Too bad, I like ranchers. Our population is small, thats why so many of us have to leave our homes... to look for WORK. Also, if you lived here you would realize the obstacles to creating a diversified economy. Not sure how it works in other provinces but NS is a backwards mess: too many monopolies, incompetent politicians with no ideas or vision, wasted resources leading to shortages, gov/banks taking ridiculous percentages of your ideas for companies just to access start up capital. It is quite insane and politicians do nothing. How can we start a recovery with no support... must be that defeatist gene again. LOL.
Harper is ostracizing himself and his party here in Atlantic Canada. I think if he does retaliate or does anything stupid then his party will fall here and not regain its footing for a long time. Not that it has much to stand on now. We just tossed out the cons here in NS for incompetence and elected the NDP (Save your remarks I've heard them all). Cons are out in NB as well. PEI only voted for a conservative, federally, so they wouldn't be shut out of government, not because they support the cons. Its funny, the only PROGRESSIVE conservative province in Atlantic Canada and thats the one Harper has beef with. Harper can't guy play nice with anyone other than yanks, the lapdog.
I don't think Harper cares about Atlantic Canada. Nobody cares but us Atlantic Canadians. Its obvious how everyone else in the country refers to Easterners as lazy, deadbeats or my personal favorite ... irrelevant. To this I say GFY. If we are so lazy then why is it that Alberta recruits so many of us to work their tar pits. I'm sure there are plenty "more intelligent and harder working cowboys" to dig your holes. Are there any cowboys left in Alberta? Ah, thats right. The rig-pig overlords drove them out of the province? Too bad, I like ranchers. Our population is small, thats why so many of us have to leave our homes... to look for WORK. Also, if you lived here you would realize the obstacles to creating a diversified economy. Not sure how it works in other provinces but NS is a backwards mess: too many monopolies, incompetent politicians with no ideas or vision, wasted resources leading to shortages, gov/banks taking ridiculous percentages of your ideas for companies just to access start up capital. It is quite insane and politicians do nothing. How can we start a recovery with no support... must be that defeatist gene again. LOL.
Harper is ostracizing himself and his party here in Atlantic Canada. I think if he does retaliate or does anything stupid then his party will fall here and not regain its footing for a long time. Not that it has much to stand on now. We just tossed out the cons here in NS for incompetence and elected the NDP (Save your remarks I've heard them all). Cons are out in NB as well. PEI only voted for a conservative, federally, so they wouldn't be shut out of government, not because they support the cons. Its funny, the only PROGRESSIVE conservative province in Atlantic Canada and thats the one Harper has beef with. Harper can't guy play nice with anyone other than yanks, the lapdog.
The feds are screwing all provinces heavily. With no money left they will start cutting provincial transfer payments or they will take loans to pay the provinces our cuts. Either way it is coming out of our pockets. So what the people have to prepare for is higher taxes, transfer cuts and more federal debt racking up interest at an alarming rate.
The govt has to own up to one of two things. Either they ****ed up royally or are ****ing us over royal. There are no other options.
Odd comment.. Transfer payments penalize the 'have' provinces and redirect the money to the 'have nots'.. This has little to do with the fed gvt's decisions and more to do with the notion that the cupboards in AB, Sask and Ontario are bare.
Use your noggin dip****. No money means no money. It's gone. They blew it on magic beans. There are no "haves" when the money is gone.
I think if I was Harper I'd mail out a questionaire to the entire electorate and get their input- that might stem the whining. I'd ask to check off the services you want and to put a cross by the ones you don't want and put price tag on each & tell them what the total limit is. It doesn't matter really what you cut, not everyone is going to be happy, but at least it may be possible to keep a small percentage happy.
You're as dumb as a bloody bag of hammers, aren't you? This is the idiocy you posted:
What'd you think would happen when the have's aren't in the black? Did you think that they'd somehow, magically legislate that AB, Sask and Ontario generate profits to 'transfer'?.
Ohhh, that's right, you think that the feds will take out loans to pay as their 'cuts'..... Here's a hint for ya, those aren't transfer payments anymore, they are outright federal subsidizes aren't they?