How the liberals made Britain ashamed of being Great

[petros]

I read it all. Even the part where they try to justify the thousands of Indians who died building the Raj railroad by saying more died building the Taj Mahal under other rulers.

Thousands of Indians died building the railways of the Raj, but countless
more died building the Taj Mahal and other useless baubles for their earlier
rulers.

Or this little self admission of being rip off artists and again trying to justify the savagery of the briddish.

from article posted by blechloaf[/B]]




Of course, Empire was not a purely altruistic enterprise. Britain reaped
enormous profits from India at the expense of its growth.

And again with pompous justification

Yes, British rule was exploitative and took away more than it provided, but
compared to what Indians had known previously, there was much to be thankful
for.

 

[Blackleaf]

I read it all. Even the part where they try to justify the thousands of Indians who died building the Raj railroad by saying more died building the Taj Mahal under other rulers.

The article was right.

The railways that the British introduced to India benefitted India. Do you want India to have been free from railways for ever? Those railways that the British introduced benefitted India and her economy.

In 1849 there was not a single mile of Indian railway. By 1880 the British had spent £100 million and had built 9,000 miles of railway. By the 1920s, the Indian railways represented a capital value of some £687 million, and carried over 620 million passengers and approximately 90 million tons of goods a year.

The Indian Railway Association was formed in 1845 by Sir Jamsetjee Jejeebhoy, and Hon. Jaganath Shunkerseth, two Indians.

As for the numbers who died building the Indian railways, how many Chinese died building the American railways? How many Chinese died building the Canadian Pacific Railway?

The Taj Mahal, on the other hand, didn't benefit India. That was built just to benefit the brutal Islamic Mughal emperor Shah Jahan. It was just a building to bury one of his many wives in. If you want to see REAL brutality, look to India's Islamic rulers before the British arrived. And I bet he used slave labour for that.

Oh okay, here comes the deflection part of the programming. The "it's not me, it's you" spiel.....no, trust me, it's definitely you.


Left/right, up/down, backwards and forwards, I don't give a damn....it's still all about your ego.

Have the graciousness to accept your defeat.

 

[petros]

The article was right.

The justification of savagery by the British is a "good" article?

I suppose Hitler was justified too?

 

[Blackleaf]

The justification of savagery by the British is a "good" article?

"Savagery" that was completely dwarved by all the enormous benefits and advantages that the Empire brought the world.

If it hadn't been for the Empire then India wouldn't be the vibrant, English-speaking (which puts it at an advantage over countries such as China) country that it is today in which the inhabitants watch and play as much cricket as they can in their spare time.

I'm sure the Indians are enormously grateful to the British for their railways, their democratic freedom and cricket.

Of course, you don't live in the real world. You live in a world of whiny liberals in which the British Empire was an evil thing which brought no good things to the world and which every Britons should be ashamed of. Of course, there are millions and millions and millions of real-world inhabiting Indians who share the opposite view and are grateful to the British for giving them many wonderful things.

You'd probably struggle to even point to India on a map, never mind know the views of its peoples.

 

[petros]

"Savagery" that was completely dwarved by all the enormous benefits and advantages that the Empire brought the world.

There is no justification for savagery. Was Hitler justified in bringing order and culture to Poland? Was it justifiable for Stalin to kill 10 million Ukrainians to bring needed cash to the Soviet empire? Were the Muzzies justifiable in crashing planes into Jew York and Washington DC?

 

[DaSleeper]

The British Empire was the main thing that put the "Great" into Great Britain.

They put Great in Britain to distinguish it from the island of Brittany
Learn your history

 

[SLM]

They put Great in Britain to distinguish it from the island of Brittany
Learn your history

You smart *** colonist.

 

[CDNBear]

They put Great in Britain to distinguish it from the island of Brittany
Learn your history

 

[taxslave]

I'm wrong because I speak better English than you do?

Benign? Ask any native of a colony if they were benign. Ask any non-English immigrant to a colony if the English were benign.

You won't like what you hear I guarantee that.

Blackie is too full of hisself to hear anything.

i'm not going to do anything to please whiny, liberal lefties like you. I fight and defeat whiny, lefty liberals.

And this is a battle you and your pals are losing, badly.



Again, someone else who didn't bother to read the articles, otherwise you wouldn't keep writing such predictable, simplistic and historically inaccurate comments.

roflmfao yet again.

 

[gopher]

I'd just send it back to you where it belongs. Like Pandora's Box I'd keep it well closed.

You will NEVER get me to show humility about something which I have no need to show humility over except to please whiny liberals like you and your fellow self-righteous pals. Just give it up, now.



The British Empire was the most benign empire the world has ever seen.

I don't want to repeat that again - but I will if I have to.

 

[Blackleaf]

They put Great in Britain to distinguish it from the island of Brittany
Learn your history

No. It was the heroic Empire builders and all the other great peoples that Britain has produced - more than any other country - which put the Great into Great Britain.

 

[petros]

You're funny.

 

[Blackleaf]

Was Hitler justified in bringing order and culture to Poland?

What are you? A Nazi? You are a disgrace.

Hitler didn't bring order and culture to Poland. He brought the deaths of 6 million people - 21.4% of Poland's population.

The British Empire was run by heroes who brought culture, civilisation, free speech, the English language, English Common Law, railways and cricket to its empire.

The Nazis brought nothing but death and misery.

I'm afraid I have to keep repeating myself because it just doesn't sink in to the heads of some of the people that Mr Hannan was complaining about.

 

[petros]

Bin f*cking go! What makes you believe Britain was any different?

 

[Blackleaf]

Bin f*cking go! What makes you believe Britain was any different?

Any different from what?

 

[Spade]

No. It was the heroic Empire builders and all the other great peoples that Britain has produced - more than any other country - which put the Great into Great Britain.

You and DaS should know that the Great in Great Britain refers to the fact that after the union of Scotland and England, the greater part of the island became one nation.

 

[Blackleaf]

You and DaS should know that the Great in Great Britain referes to the fact that after the union of Scotland and England, the greater part of the island became one nation.

All of the island became one nation, not the greater part of it.

 

[Spade]

Well yes. so it became great Britain.

When Scotlanf becomes independent...

 

[petros]

Any different from what?

Short attention span?

Germany. They too believed they were spreading goodness and bringing a modern civil world to Europe, Asia and Africa

You and DaS should know that the Great in Great Britain refers to the fact that after the union of Scotland and England, the greater part of the island became one nation.

I considered posting the derinition of great but it wouldn't matter. This guy is waaaaay too thick.

 

[Blackleaf]

Well yes. so it became great Britain.

Great Britain predates the 1707 Act of Union between the Kingdom of England (now England and Wales) and the Kingdom of Scotland (now Scotland). That's because it's the name of the largest island of the British Isles.

The term "Great Britain" was first used in 1474 in the instrument drawing up the proposal for a marriage between Cecily the daughter of Edward IV of England, and James the son of James III of Scotland, which described it as "this Nobill Isle, callit Gret Britanee." It was used again in 1604, when King James VI and I styled himself "King of Great Brittaine, France and Ireland."

The 1707 Act of Union merely formed the Kingdom of Great Britain, meaning the kingdom which occupies the island of Great Britain.

In 1801 Ireland joined the Union, and the country became known as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland.

Ireland, except the northern bit, seceded from the UK in 1922, and now it is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

They too believed they were spreading goodness and bringing a modern civil world to Europe, Asia and Africa

Yeah. But they didn't bring goodness, did they? And I hope you aren't comparing the British Empire to the evil Nazi Empire.