ِHow disbelievers worked to impede the Quran

[Murphy]

(Translated from the Arabic by putting elders into a blender and pouring the resulting puree onto the heads of those at the Madrasa.)
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From the First Book of Hindl (NOT Hindi) Testamentum Novus (revised)

Time to get out your Codex Impelus and Lexicon.

When the countries of the Middle East were being divided up by the rich and powerful, many angry words were spoken. The wise and learned debated borders and governance, but came to no agreeable conclusions.

One member of this prominent estate of men was Mahna Mahna - Slayer of Stones, brother of Mahatma-Grady - Lord Protector of the Indias and Man-God of the Nibbly Piblixx.

Mahna Mahna rose in anger, screaming at the holy men ‑

"Ye vacillating fundaments! Who shall stand today and blaspheme that venerate endowment of God? Upon my soul, does no one hold His objects in reverent esteem? You (Mahna Mahna pojnted at one of the Imams), does thy heart not fairly sing at His art? Why do your followers destroy the beauty of things created by the children of God? The things He instructed His children to build!”

Then, he turned to the governors.

“My Lords, why do ye worship the musketoon and Skiver? Wouldst thy brave words and promises stand before its thunder and damn its might? Ye are like sheep before them!”

Finally, Mahna Mahna waved his hand over all assembled.

“Ye know only ignorance! In a thousand skirmishes, love rose to oppugn those who wouldst turn back this land's great history and plunge it back into the sands! Only a simpleton condemns that which he does not understand! You, my corpulent Lords, wouldst contrive to exile love into history's false judgements! "

He concluded by saying, “E'en now, your evil toils. Its damnation from the tongues of fools!"

The assembled sat silent. Their shame filling every dark space.

Mahna Mahna concluded ‑

"Should ye care so little that ye wouldst choose to scatter love into nothing, I wouldst remind ye ‑ 'twas before, and it remains still – the successful end to man's struggles. Nay, not lustrous or beauteous, a midge perhaps, to thee, my gathered legates. But pray, ask the provincials of its might. And hope that they do not rise up and smite ye down in the name of the thing you revile! Ye have no comprehension of the history!"

Then he drove a sandalwood spear through a holy man and all feasted upon his earthly remains.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

I read that as forbidding any editing of the book,

Wait, you mean St. John the Divine was just a dick about editors?

 

[MHz]

Take your pills.

 

[Ron in Regina]

You can provide those quotations as proof, but I wrote them in 1989.

You are acting from a false premise. But in view of your loyal usage, I have instructed my sales manager to send you a goat.

Mohammed-Ali Hassan Al-Hilly!!! I've heard your words quoted
over and over, and over....It's a pleasure to hear some new
material!!!

 

[darkbeaver]

No one would bother to say or do anything about your religion if your religion wasn't aggressively trying to push itself on the world and wasn't a violent , virulent infection .

There`s a bunch of stuff we could chart and get some numbers from, about which religion was fgavoured by the world elighte. Being of tgat elite Iike the way things are, with all you stuopid taxpayers, my class gonnna prosoper.

There`s this ladder. if you ain``t on it you don`t count. Of course you might be a nice person. The list of nice persons looking for work is expanding, I could employ all of you, under industry standards, can you meet them, PM mem for details, exciting work,

T he project deals with geocentric dominance. Canada I need a new keyboard, tomorow., eighteen bucks, stables.

 

[Murphy]

I would like to conclude this evening's religious harangue with a couple of big songs from back when I was chasing down Communists. Yeah, I used to do that before I found doctorates and cases of beer.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC5h4Uzciys

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi84maqHgxg

 

[MHz]

If they apply to religion they are hymns. Just thought you should know that.

Wait, you mean St. John the Divine was just a dick about editors?

Beloved Disciple, see what reading a different version does to the story?

T he project deals with geocentric dominance. Canada I need a new keyboard, tomorow., eighteen bucks, stables.

The kind to get has illuminated keys and a touch-pad instead of a mouse, with it you can mimic a touch-screen and that is what win 10 and all the other operating systems are moving to. The mouse it dead, here comes the rats where the sellers retain more rights to the computer than the one who 'purchased' it. The next step would be to have the smaller tabler act as the touch-screen for what is on the big monitors in front of you. The touch-screen keyboard would be a single hand dvorak layout and the users typing rate should increase in speed and accuracy as it could be made to accommodate a person's hand.

Have to be pretty credulous and gullible to find any of that compelling.

That is something you can't determine until you have read and understood the book in question. As you seem to be in the 'listening mode' I'll take this opportunity to expand on my original post to you as it leave out the parts that convinced me that it fits together a certain way and that way makes the book extra-ordinary.
It won't be too painful but it may seem a bit dry if you are used to finding conflicts in the text rather than agreements.

That directive is also on the last page of the Bible. Since there are many copyright versions of the English version of the 'Holy Bible' you need a certain variance in the actual text, that also goes for the name of the book itself. The first English version is the KJV1611 edition and according to the preface to the Holy Bible the text is from the original Greek for the NT and the original Hebrew for the OT. The translators did the Greek into English and the OT was translated into English by Jews in Jerusalem and that would have been based on the written version that was made during the time Daniel (and others) were in exile in Babylon. Because God is the author of the book the same 'sermon' He gave to Moses was restored to that condition as that has a bearing on what was added when the NT was added to the overall text.

That is the start of the 'authority' the book has or the oral translation would have allowed errors on with the passage of a lot of time and that would be as flawed as the other English Bible are.
In this case the current divisions are 'wrong' basically and reading it with the intent to understand it in the shortest amount of time is done with these changes, the beginning and end of this earth, the one that was made slightly less than perfect and the start of the perfected one where mankind is all of Adam and Eve's children that were ever conceived in this earth. Using the method that the 'audience' that fits the characteristics of the verse below is basically all of Gentile mankind, chapters 1-3 cover who the message is for and it is not for the readers of the time it was written down. It was the last action from God that fits the qualities written down in various verses. In this case the people would be the Gentiles from Luke:21:24 that marks the start of a period of time that has 42 months left to it before Christ arrives with a sword. The 4 Gospels cover a period of 42 months if you start the clock when God calls John the Baptist to start preaching and this is the beginning of the prophecies that lead to the bruise to the heel being completed as written about in the 4 Gospels. The bruise to the serpents head is also given a time-frame of of 3 1/2 years as that is what time the Beast from the Pit is from. That time is also from the days of Adam. Somebody who had read about 1,000 years being equal to a day would be able to read Ge:1-3 with the mind that it was written for somebody in the age that Re:1 was applying to and specifically witnesses to how the bruise to the serpents head played out, compared to 12 witnesses to Jesus during the 3 1/2 years before the bruise to the seed of Eve took place. That is what Jesus was referencing when He said, 'It is finished.' moments before He died. The bruise to the head is completed when Christ says. 'It is done.' as He pours out the last vial on the serpent's kingdom in Re:16.

Re:1:7:
Behold,
he cometh with clouds;
and every eye shall see him,
and they also which pierced him:
and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him.
Even so,
Amen.

Somebody who is aware of that method of telling time would understand how Adam could live 930 years and still die in the same day he sinned. The 'sons of God' from Ge:6 were under the Re:21 set of laws and those are the ones that were in effect until Moses brought in the 10 Commandments and then went and killed all the giants as they represented the law of the 'sons of God'. Moses was the first person to be bound by the 120 year determination in Ge:6 as to how long a person can be alive during the time the 10 Commandments became the laws. When Christ comes that method of keeping time starts again as the ones that are alive at the end of the first day are immortal and sinless and the Re:21 laws are the ones they now go by and the 1,000 years they are with Christ learning how to act in the kingdom of God. That is also referenced as being 'a day' just like it did with Adam.

Another aspect of using the first and last 3 books as being 'lesson 1, Who is God?' is Ge:1 is the beginning of this imperfect earth and Re:21 is about the start of the perfected earth. With knowledge that there is a perfected earth it can also be 'suggested' that the Ge:2 version is more in line with Adam (and Eve and all their children behind them) stepping out of New Jerusalem as it lands on the new earth.

There are a few other things that can be floated as being intentionally written for the readers in the 21st century rather than 100AD. More compelling even.

It also lends support that Ge:3:15 and the two bruises have a large impact on how the book's prophetic passages should be taken. The cross was the final act in the completion of the bruise to the heel of the 'seed of Eve', the teachings in the NT are slightly different because they are for the people that will be involved in the final events that will be the completion of the other bruise and all that comes with that.

As mentioned the 1,000 years/ 1 day lasted until the last giant died in the exodus wars, that change of law was made with people under a different covenant and that applies to all people until the day the 7th trumps sounds and then a different covenant is made with the population from Re:20:4 as they are the first immortal people to come under a new law, one that has them 'tested' when fire from heaven comes down and sends all fallen angels to the fiery lake, perfected men are witnesses to that and they are unharmed by that same fire. That is one advantage they have over the people who come alive at the Great White Throne event.

Considering most do not use the 1611 text that is a good thing because it would be full of errors if the versions are compared. You cannot be a 'child of the light' and not claim to have the correct doctrine for what all the ancient prophecies mean to the generation that is around of the time that Revelations covers, 3 1/2 years from when the prophecies start to unwind until the return and people that are alive receive a glorified body once they visit the literal river from Eze:47.

That is part of what happens on the day Christ ends the Beast's 42 months, the 12 books after Daniel only cover that event so it is pretty detailed just what goes on.

The anxious part is caused by having more than 1 doctrine being preached. The part that takes away the fear is understanding what the prophecies promote and what they don't when viewed that 'the book' from Re:22 is a reference to Genesis also as it takes all of it to paint the picture the book promotes.

If you are going to understand Ge:3:15 you better be ready to reference the whole book rather than just 6 books. It is made easier as all historic writings are the 'proof' that it is about real people in a real place. Moses to the cross was the start and end of the heel bruise. Acts:10 is the dividing line between the heel bruise info and what would become 'useful information' to Gentiles during the completion of the head bruise. That makes sorting most of the prophecies easy. One un-answered question is how the books got to be after Daniel when they were written before Daniel? The 'error' is helpful as they pick up where Daniel left off, the end of the iron/clay kingdom and the beginning of an immortal kingdom.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I HAVE read and understood the book, but my understanding is quite different from yours. I remain unconvinced and deeply skeptical, and I believe your understanding of it is completely wrong. Nice try though, you sure put a lot of effort into it and I have to respect that, misguided though I think it is.

Wait, you mean St. John the Divine was just a dick about editors?

Aren't most writers? Especially ones as passionately convinced of their own rightness as he was? Take my immortal and brilliant prose stylings, twist them to suit somebody else's idea of how to write good...

 

[Angstrom]

misguided though I think it is.

Strong is the force, in this one.

 

[MHz]

Aren't most writers? Especially ones as passionately convinced of their own rightness as he was? Take my immortal and brilliant prose stylings, twist them to suit somebody else's idea of how to write good...

Are you sure that doesn't also cover a flaw in the other English Bibles, foot-notes to tell the reader what to think? The newer ones really push the 70 week as being split off and the first copyright English Bible does not have (or need) prompts as the verses themselves are clear enough to understand by 'this generation' as being the church members that survive the 7 vials events. That is also the time sin is eliminated as all sinners are in the Pit and the rebuilding of the Garden is the task the people take on. That is a task that takes 7 years btw.

There is nothing to suggest that the Beloved Disciple of John the Baptist was any different than she was in the verse below. Peter's letter to her certainly holds her in high regard considering the jealousy he exhibited in the same passage this verse comes from. The 4 Gospels were in print (Greek print) when Saul had his conversion as his mission was to teach about what happens after the scattering from De:4:30 and Luke:12:24 and James:1:1 as. Paul would have taught the same message that Peter began to teach in Acts:10, both of them being taught by the holy spirit as directed by Christ (Jesus in a glorified body, when Jesus was baptized he went for a 40 day fast so he could control all demons, among other things. The Disciples had 40 days with Christ during that period of time that seems to allow for a swing first, talk later kind of entrance. A more authoritative version of the first Passover that John's Gospel covers and the expulsion of the money-changers, this time (3rd time) is the last time that is needed, . . . ever.

Joh:21:24:
This is the disciple which testifieth of these things,
and wrote these things:
and we know that his testimony is true.

This part below is in a letter from Peter to the Beloved Disciple that acknowledges that she was there in person and she was actually there before Peter was as she is the unnamed Disciple of John the Baptist that went with Jesus at John's instructions.

1Jo:1:1-3:
That which was from the beginning,
which we have heard,
which we have seen with our eyes,
which we have looked upon,
and our hands have handled,
of the Word of life;
(For the life was manifested,
and we have seen it,
and bear witness,
and shew unto you that eternal life,
which was with the Father,
and was manifested unto us
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you,
that ye also may have fellowship with us:
and truly our fellowship is with the Father,
and with his Son Jesus Christ.

Since we are looking at 'who wrote what' lets just go with the 3 Apostles who saw 2 specific events as being the authors that cover the events and give Peter the biggest one as he was the Chief Apostle. It could not have been written before the cross and it could have been in any language after the event in Acts:2 which would have had all Disciples attend. That lends to the introduction of Saul, a Jew who could read and write Greek and he later wrote a lot about the 'latter days tribulation' as do many other books in the Bible.
Peter and the Apostles stayed in Jerusalem after Stephen was killed and they left when Rome surrounded Jerusalem in 70AD. Between the two events they experienced all Luke:21:24 details while the Beloved Disciple would have left Judea with Jesus's mother and settled where the 7 Churches she established were. She was put into prison because she was a Jew and all Jews were rounded up so they could not support the uprising in Jerusalem. The whole Isle of Patmos was a prison.

Strong is the force, in this one.

Perhaps I'm just a careful reader and in my class questions are allowed. Revelations is a book that is laid out in sections and the sequence is there and that helps sort the OT prophecies into where they fit in. I won't say this summation was what I had after I first read that part of the book, it is where I am today though.

Re:1-3 the message is to 'the 7 Churches'
Re:4-5 the location and look inside the temple of God that took over when the 70AD event destroyed the Temple in Jerusalem. This temple will be in effect until the day the 7th trump sounds when the temple that holds Christ's throne will be around for the 1,000 year reign.
Re:6 the seals prophecy that is in the same format as the metal statue vision in Da:2, it is prophecy alone and the details of the prophecy is in the rest of the books. Daniel and Revelation share the end of the brass and all of the iron/clay kingdom. From 70AD to whenever is the length of the 'time of the Gentiles' that was started in 70AD (Luke:21:24)
Re:7 the sequence of who is gathered, the 144,000 are sealed before any trumps sound and the 2nd group mentioned are the Gentiles who appear at the Great White Throne Event and they are the last to be sealed for protection.
Re:8-9 the first 6 trumps and it can be promoted that the first 4 sound off in 4 days as that is the offset between the two witnesses start (sealed before any trump sounds) and when the 5th trump sounds as that is the start of the Beast from the Pit's time starts. Since they are equal in length and the two witnesses are in the grave for 4 days and the Beast is sent to the lake on the day they are resurrected so the 4 day offset works.
Re:10 is a chapter for the people who have their names in the book of life as being alive for the 1,000 year reign. The names are read out right after than last Vial's effects have been completed, (about 3 hours for all 7 to be poured out)
Re:11 is the Church during the last 3 1/2 years, the two witnesses will be the 'proof' that God exists for that last 3 1/2 years.
Re:12 is and expansion of Ge:3:15, the first woman is Eve and she was in the Garden for the determination of the two bruises. The next woman mentioned is Mary, mother of Jesus and that is the completion of the bruise to the heel. The last woman is the people who will be given protection from any harm the first 6 trumps could bring. They have nothing to feart from the 7th trump sounding as that only affects fallen angels and sinful Gentiles.
Re:13 is an over view of the 5th and 6th trumps and the change could be after 5 months as that is when the 1st woe ends and the 2nd one begins.
Re:14 the 144,000 are taken to the mountain where Moses and Elias were seen in a vision and from there they watch the vials be poured out and then the resurrection of the whole house of Israel
Re:15 Gentiles who escape the wrath of the vials.
Re:16 the wrath of God that is poured out on the whole world starting about an hour after the two witnesses are raised from the grave.
Re:17-19 who Satan is and the details of his defeat
Re:20 the 1st day of the 1,000 year reign and the last event connected to this heaven and earth, the Great White Throne.
Re:21-22 new earth verses, especially for the ones who just came alive at the GWT.

 

[selfsame]

The real dangers of Islam are its claim to be the last revelation from God that corrects all others, and the fact that no separation of church and state is possible or necessary in Islam. No other faith makes that first claim, and it makes Islam uniquely intolerant of dissent. The penalty for apostasy is death. All others are open to additional revelation, and the other monotheisms actively seek and expect it. On the second point, vesting religious and secular authority in the same people and institutions is a proven recipe for tyranny and oppression and that's what Islam mandates, the church and the state are the same institutions. Disbelievers impede the Quran because it's the right thing to do, it's a mythological document from a pre-scientific and largely pre-literate age that has almost no relation to reality.

How clever are you at using decorated words and evading the truth!

What I said is that disbelievers in the time of Prophet Mohammed, and as the aya of the Quran declares; they used to interrupt the one who recite the Quran with much speaking and shouting so as to silence the reciter of the Quran; then I said the same way is used by many posters in this forum: Zionists most of them. Because their way and hatred expose them obviously.

Why didn't you see and condemn the many posters and how they posted their same way of mockery and ridicule and their porn pictures and their transgression on the Prophet and on the Quran and on God Himself?

But only that you are one of them obviously.

Would it not stand to reason then that just because someone views God differently than you, believes differently, worships differently, that does not mean they are somehow not going to Heaven? As you said, not even believers have the same levels of belief and differ according to their work.

Yet by your own words, anyone who does not see God as YOU do are vile, evil, etc and so on.

By your own words you say to others "you don't believe" even if they do. To you they do not believe because they do not follow God as YOU think God should be followed. Yet to their beliefs they are doing just as they should.

You are speaking hypocrisy.

What I said that you might have understood some of my words: because you once said: Are you trying to send us to Hell? And I answered you at that time. No more than this.

So you now say words of lies: I didn't say about the one who does not agree with my words .. no, I only said about those who blaspheme and revile God and the Prophet: of course they are losers and hundred times losers and vile.

 

[Murphy]

Because he knows you are actually a Jehovah's Witness. It is a visual age. You are an idolater.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MdpaoBbK8c

 

[selfsame]

Quran 26: 139, which speaks about the consequence of the disbelievers among the Aad tribe; it means:
{And they denied him, so We destroyed them [with the hurricanes]; surely that [event] indicated a sign [of Our might], yet most of them were not believers.}

 

[Angstrom]

Quran 26: 139, which speaks about the consequence of the disbelievers among the Aad tribe; it means:
{And they denied him, so We destroyed them [with the hurricanes]; surely that [event] indicated a sign [of Our might], yet most of them were not believers.}

Your a dick head.

 

[Murphy]

And I wrote in 56:139 - Because they were wicked, and spoke in lies, Mahna Mahna came down from the high mountain and smote them all with sno-cones, soaked in Manischewitz. There was a thunderous noise. A huge eruption, as the evil was consumed by Mahna Mahna.

You can take that to the bank. It is coming for you, idolater!

But first, this message from Kermit the Frog. It's called Rainbow Connection. It's not really about rainbows though. It's about gay Muslims walking toward the light.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSFLZ-MzIhM

 

[selfsame]

Why don't you, sons of vipers, take lesson of the destruction of Jerusalem by the hand of Titus the Roman general.

That was because they denied the apostles of the Christ when they invited them to refrain from the wrong-doing and the enthusiasm about the tombs of the prophets and sages.

 

[Murphy]

What you need is a little Julie Andrews!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLkp_Dx6VdI

 

[Angstrom]

Why don't you, sons of vipers, take lesson of the destruction of Jerusalem by the hand of Titus the Roman general.

That was because they denied the apostles of the Christ when they invited them to refrain from the wrong-doing and the enthusiasm about the tombs of the prophets and sages.

Go back to your tribe

 

[MHz]

Why don't you, sons of vipers, take lesson of the destruction of Jerusalem by the hand of Titus the Roman general.

That was because they denied the apostles of the Christ when they invited them to refrain from the wrong-doing and the enthusiasm about the tombs of the prophets and sages.

Actually Rome was on a mission from God. He had the temple taken down so Satan could not use any part of it in his attempt to be the God of the bible. It was part of the 70 week prophecy and the little horn prophecy.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Why didn't you see and condemn the many posters and how they posted their same way of mockery and ridicule and their porn pictures and their transgression on the Prophet and on the Quran and on God Himself?

I did see them, and I didn't condemn them because I agree with them, I just express myself differently. Evidently you're not familiar with the idea of free speech and what it means in a civilized society. They have every right to mock and ridicule you and anything you believe in, up to and including the Quran, the Prophet, and Allah, just as you are free to spout all the nonsense you do in here, unless you or they cross some line that gets people tossed out. I believe that's already happened to you here once, under a different user name.

Oh, and those were pork pictures, not porn pictures. People aren't allowed to post porn in here, that's one of the things that'll get them tossed out.