How about them Canucks!

[JLM]

Both Hartly and Torts should have got lengthy supensions

On this we will have to agree to disagree. -


(I know I get pissed off when people start "playing games", so I can understand John's reaction)

 

[talloola]

I understand more than you think. I just don't think Hartley should be penalized for "playing the game". It was torterella's choice to react the way he did. Hartley can't "make" anyone do anything.

no he can't, but he did something himself, hence, the fine, that is the only thing you can't see, as
you don't understand the game too well, and how coaches use each other.

hartley and torterella know each other from 'way back', they have had clashes years and years ago, hartley knew he could easily get torterella
going, knows his emotional reaction in life, he played torterella by doing what he did, he knew what
the reaction would be, but most of all, he 'attempted' to start the game with violence, that is what
'he' did that was suspendable, and i'm glad the league could 'easily' see that.

it is very very nieve, 'or pretending' to be nieve, to say that he just played players, without
any attempt to cause a problem.

i have listened to many many interviews with people all around the hockey world yesterday and today, and about
99% know that hartley attempted to start trouble, but they are not saying torterella is innocent, because
they also saw that torterella lost it by trying to get to hartley's dressing room.

its done now, i'm moving on, this has been discussed to its end.

just to add, all of the canuck players are rallying around torterella today, and commend him for having their backs, they feel well looked
after, by a coach who will go to the wall for them.
a funny little part of the bench argueing was burrows. he was pretending
to drink out of his glove, taunting shane o'brian, because o'brian had quite
areputation when with the canucks of visiting the 'roxie' pub often, and
tipping back too much booze, so, when they show replays of the bench
arguement, burrows is funny.

i would like to add one more thing;
ray ferraro suggested that, torterella should have called the referee over
just before puck drop, and informed him that he has told his players what
hartley is attempting to do, and they should not drop their gloves first,
that calgary players would be doing that, and wants the official to know
that he has to start 4th line as well, but doesn't want them to initiate
anything.
but he also can't tell them not to defend themselves, that is asking too much,
and would insight future problems.

by the way, the officials also knew exactly what was going to happen, before
it happened, they are also very 'saavy' to this behavior by hartley, or
any other coach attempting to do same.
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Henrik Sedin out as Canucks visit OilersMonday, 01.20.2014 / 1:57 PMBrian Hunter - NHL.com Staff Writer

CANUCKS (25-16-9) at OILERS (15-30-6)

TV: SNET-P, SNET-W

Last 10: Vancouver 2-5-3; Edmonton 2-6-2

Season series: This is the third of five games between the Vancouver Canucks and Edmonton Oilers. Vancouver has already claimed a pair of four-goal victories on home ice. Nine different Canucks have scored a goal and 14 have registered at least one point. Roberto Luongo has stopped 40 of Edmonton's 42 shots.

Big story: Luongo is back again for the Canucks, and though he's played only two games since originally getting hurt on Dec. 22 both have been tremendous efforts. He made 46 saves in a Jan. 4 loss to the Los Angeles Kings and then was back on the shelf until this past Saturday, when he turned in 31 stops in a shootout win against the Calgary Flames.

Team Scope:

Canucks: Since missing four games during the 2003-04 season due to an abdominal strain, Vancouver center Henrik Sedin has played in 679 consecutive games. However, he's failed to finish each of the past two due to a suspected rib injury and his ironman streak will come to an end Tuesday.

Canucks assistant coach Mike Sullivan confirmed Monday that Sedin, who has 40 points in 50 games (nine goals, 31 assists), will not be in the lineup in Edmonton.

"The fact he's been able to play that many games consecutively is just a testament to his determination and how tough he is," Sullivan said. "Him and [twin brother] Daniel both play in the hard areas of the rink on a consistent basis because they have the puck so much."

Sedin's offensive ability will be missed on a team that was shut out twice and limited to a single goal once in the three games prior to Saturday. The Canucks also were without forward Mike Santorelli (shoulder) against the Flames.

Oilers: This is the start of a three-game homestand for Edmonton, which had a rousing 4-3 overtime win against the Pittsburgh Penguins in its most recent time out at Rexall Place, but followed that up by getting swept on a four-game road trip.

The Oilers did enough to squeeze a point out of a 3-2 overtime loss to the Winnipeg Jets on Saturday afternoon when David Perron drew them even with two minutes left in regulation. They gave up 39 shots on goalie Ilya Bryzgalov, though, and average nearly 32 shots allowed per game, in the bottom third of the NHL.

"Once we learn to enjoy the hard parts of the game, we'll be much better," defenseman and team captain Andrew Ference said in the Edmonton Journal.

Who's hot: Canucks forward Ryan Kesler had a goal and an assist against the Flames. … Oilers forward Jordan Eberle has goals in consecutive games.

Injury report: Santorelli, defensemen Ryan Stanton (ankle) and Andrew Alberts (concussion), and forward Jordan Schroeder (ankle) are on injured reserve. … Edmonton forward Nail Yakupov (head) missed the previous game and forward Ales Hemsky (foot) missed the past two. Also sidelined are defensemen Philip Larsen (illness) and Corey Potter (groin).

 

[gerryh]

no he can't, but he did something himself, hence, the fine, that is the only thing you can't see, as
you don't understand the game too well, and how coaches use each other.

Like I said, I understand, I just don't agree.

a funny little part of the bench argueing was burrows. he was pretending
to drink out of his glove, taunting shane o'brian, because o'brian had quite
areputation when with the canucks of visiting the 'roxie' pub often, and
tipping back too much booze, so, when they show replays of the bench
arguement, burrows is funny.

So, Burrows taunting O'Brian is just hunky dory, but hartley taunting torterella, by fielding his 4th line is not. True to form.

 

[talloola]

Like I said, I understand, I just don't agree.




So, Burrows taunting O'Brian is just hunky dory, but hartley taunting torterella, by fielding his 4th line is not. True to form.

it still remains that, hartley instigated the situation, 'nothing' would have happened out of the
ordinary, if he had chosen 'not' to insight violence, but he did, can't change that now.

by then, all the 'sh*t' had hit the fan,( and many players were taunting and yelling back and forth),as hartley wanted, who taunted who after that doesn't really
matter.
and if hartley had the 'guts' to actually confront torterella when hartley's actions were questioned,
he would have looked like a 'man' instead of a frozen statue, which was a big statement on its own.
(torterella hollering and hartley tight lipped, are one in the same, just look different)
i've not seen anyone who could press his lips that hard together, and as i said before, he would
be perfect as a 'german general' in a world war two movie.

i would love to see someone who can fiddle with pictures on the computer come up with a picture of 'him'
in full 'german general dress', it would be sweet, and hollywodd would come calling soon after. lol
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Like I said, I understand, I just don't agree.

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so if you understand hartley's intentions, you then agree with him, i don't understand that.
are you still nieve enough to still think that he wasn't deliberately trying to start trouble?
or, do you agree it was a good idea to try to start trouble, or would agree with anything he
did because he is a calgary coach, just don't know what you understand or don't understand.

try to explain yourself.
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with torterella's suspension, coaching will change.

sullivan, who was totally responsible for the defense, will now take torterella's spot, and be
responsible for all of the forwards.

gullickson, who has been totally responsible for the 'power play', will now have more responsibility,
by taking over the defense, as well as the power play, good luck with that.

the good part is that, the next few games are not the top end of the nhl for awhile, so games shouldn't
be too overwhelming, and hopefully canucks can pull off another win tonight.

 

[JLM]

There's a few games going against the tide tonight (for the good). Just keeping my fingers crossed. Looking like Luongo is on his way to a Stanley Cup (If he can play the next 55 games the way he is playing this one) -

 

[gopher]

Islanders rallied from a two goal deficit to defeat the Rangers tonight at the Garden 5-3.

A good match that takes me back to the days when their rivalry was one of the best in all of pro sports. The teams have an outdoor match scheduled next week at Yankee stadium and it should be a wild one!

 

[JLM]

Good road game for the 'Nucks tonight. The only fault I can see is no scoring from the veterans. Luongo is text book unless he just gets too overwhelmed with too much traffic right in front of the net.

Lots of "evening up" in the standings tonight!

The Jets just defeated the Mighty Ducks. THAT # Juan is why there is still hope for Canucks to win the Cup. You just can't write off any team. Who would have thunk that would be the team to beat the Ducks at home? -

 

[#juan]

Good road game for the 'Nucks tonight. The only fault I can see is no scoring from the veterans. Luongo is text book unless he just gets too overwhelmed with too much traffic right in front of the net.

Lots of "evening up" in the standings tonight!

The Jets just defeated the Mighty Ducks. THAT # Juan is why there is still hope for Canucks to win the Cup. You just can't write off any team. Who would have thunk that would be the team to beat the Ducks at home? -

JLM you must have missed the Canucks hanging for dear life onto a one goal lead against the Oilers tonight. The canucks
are just not consistant enough to be a contender. How many good years have the Sedins got left? Two? Three?

 

[talloola]

Good road game for the 'Nucks tonight. The only fault I can see is no scoring from the veterans. Luongo is text book unless he just gets too overwhelmed with too much traffic right in front of the net.

Lots of "evening up" in the standings tonight!

The Jets just defeated the Mighty Ducks. THAT # Juan is why there is still hope for Canucks to win the Cup. You just can't write off any team. Who would have thunk that would be the team to beat the Ducks at home? -

the ducks were not going to go all season without a loss at home, just doesn't happen. jets were outshot
by double, pavelec played awsome, and they hung in there for the win, good for them, i like the jets,
follow them closely, and their new coach is just what the doctor ordered for them.

luongo was the difference tonight, he mAde some very very difficult saves to give his team the win,
he even saved the eventual goal they did score, just lost sight of the puck, but his teamates should
have come to the rescue long before oilers put it in the net.

nashville on thursday

 

[JLM]

JLM you must have missed the Canucks hanging for dear life onto a one goal lead against the Oilers tonight. The canucks
are just not consistant enough to be a contender. How many good years have the Sedins got left? Two? Three?

I watched all three periods although I did miss Kassian's goal (would just have to happen while I helped my grand daughter on the computer for two minutes. - "Hanging on for dear life" was probably an apt description of about 30 - 40 seconds of play, Edmonton could just have easily been beaten by worse than they were.


P.S. Yep, Sedins are getting long in the tooth but there's the likes of Kessler, Higgins, Hansen, Sestito, Kassian and maybe Lain who will probably improve by the time the twins are history.

 

[talloola]

I watched all three periods although I did miss Kassian's goal (would just have to happen while I helped my grand daughter on the computer for two minutes. - "Hanging on for dear life" was probably an apt description of about 30 - 40 seconds of play, Edmonton could just have easily been beaten by worse than they were.

and edmonton could just as easily have won the game, if luongo hAdn''t stood on his head with those
saves, that had goal written all over them.

 

[JLM]

and edmonton could just as easily have won the game, if luongo hAdn''t stood on his head with those
saves, that had goal written all over them.

As old Yogi would say............................... -

 

[talloola]

As old Yogi would say............................... -

yep, 'it aint ova till its ova'

 

[#juan]

and edmonton could just as easily have won the game, if luongo hAdn''t stood on his head with those
saves, that had goal written all over them.

Yes they could have and Luongo was the difference. The defense seems to back in on their goaltender until i becomes absolutely neccessary for the goalie to corral the puck to settle things down.

 

[talloola]

Yes they could have and Luongo was the difference. The defense seems to back in on their goaltender until i becomes absolutely neccessary for the goalie to corral the puck to settle things down.

yes, and those talented and nifty forwards for oilers, zip in and out, and they can be very dangerous
when in shooting range, hence those very good shots.

once oilers get much stronger on defense, they will become a threat, maybe next year.

 

[talloola]

PREDATORS (22-22-7) at CANUCKS (26-16-9)

TV: FS-TN, SNET-P

Last 10: Nashville 4-4-2; Vancouver 3-5-2

Season series: The Vancouver Canucks won their only previous game this season against the Nashville Predators, 3-1 on Dec. 3 at Bridgestone Arena. They'll meet again on March 19 in Vancouver.

Big story: As the Predators attempt to climb the standings in the Western Conference, their opponent Thursday is another team fighting for positioning and a chance at the Stanley Cup Playoffs in the Canucks. In order to pull into one of the Western Conference's two wild-card spots the Predators will have to make up an eight-point deficit and jump over three teams. One of those teams is Vancouver, which means Nashville has a valuable opportunity to take two points off a direct competitor.

Team Scope:

Predators: If the Predators are looking to make a late playoff push, they're off to a good start. Nashville has won three of its past four games while averaging 3.75 goals per game, a marked change of pace for a team that has averaged more than a goal less than that over the course of the season.

Despite the improved play, however, Nashville is still sixth in the Central Division and a full eight points behind the Minnesota Wild, who currently occupy the West's final wild card spot. The Predators' visit to Vancouver will be the first stop on a four-game Western Canadian road trip.

As the Predators start the trip they'll have reinforcements; Nashville acquired defenseman Michael Del Zotto from the New York Rangers on Wednesday in exchange for defenseman Kevin Klein.

"Michael gives us another young, gifted left-handed shooting defenseman with significant offensive upside," Nashville general manager David Poile said. "We look forward to his presence on our already talented young blue line, further balancing our defensive corps."

Canucks: Vancouver is fourth in the Pacific, three points behind the Los Angeles Kings, but considering the Canucks' start to the year the gap could be much larger. After losing their final game of 2013 the Canucks opened 2014 with one win in their next eight games.

Since then, Vancouver has recovered with two straight wins, but as the team opens a four-game homestand on Thursday, obstacles still loom. Forward Henrik Sedin is likely to be absent after missing Vancouver's 2-1 win on Tuesday against the Edmonton Oilers. Sedin, who suffered a rib injury against the Phoenix Coyotes on Jan. 16, had the second-longest active ironman streak in the League at 679 games.

The game against Nashville will also be the Canucks' second without coach John Torotorella, who is serving a 15-day suspension for his actions during and after a first-period line brawl in Vancouver's 3-2 shootout win against the Calgary Flames on Jan. 18. Much was made following that game of the two-second debut of Kellan Lain, who was ejected following the game-starting altercation, but Lain had a far larger impact in his second NHL game, scoring the first goal in Vancouver's win against Edmonton on Tuesday.

"I don't know if you can picture a more memorable first two games in the NHL than that," goalie Roberto Luongo said of Lain. "But it was a huge goal for us to set the tone for us in the first period."

After facing Nashville on Thursday the Canucks wrap up their homestand against Phoenix, Edmonton and the Chicago Blackhawks before starting a five-game road trip.

Who's hot: Predators defenseman Roman Josi has two goals and four assists in the past four games. ... Canucks forward Ryan Kesler has a goal and two assists in the past two games.

Injury report: Predators goalie Pekka Rinne (hip) remains on injured reserve. ... Sedin (ribs) is doubtful, and Canucks forward Mike Santorelli (arm) is questionable. Defensemen Andrew Alberts (concussion) and Ryan Stanton (ankle) and forward Jordan Schroeder (ankle) are on IR.

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i think jordan schroeder is playing in abbotsford this week end with the utica team, then he will join
the canucks shortly after.

 

[#juan]

A little off the subject but I like Lain. He's young, He skates and carries the puck pretty well and he can intimidate some players. At six foot six he would intimidate me for sure.

 

[talloola]

A little off the subject but I like Lain. He's young, He skates and carries the puck pretty well and he can intimidate some players. At six foot six he would intimidate me for sure.

yes, he's definitely what the canucks need to bring them up to the next level, even if he doesn't become
a big goal scorer, his size will be an advantage, because it looks like he is going to be a decent
player.

i think ryan stanton is playing tonight too, and that is very good, he was a very bright light this
year on defense, looks like a good player for the future of this team.
he had an ankle injury.

 

[JLM]

I see another repeat of Canuck's 9 goal drubbing with the Maple Leafs, who have like the Canucks just come off a winning streak. Sh*t happens in the best regulated familes. L.O.L.

 

[bill barilko]

Not impressed.