How about them Canucks!
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The last three or four games should at least put a stop to those still hoping that the Canucks will win the cup. Vancouver is not going to win the cup. Somewhere in that 9 - 1 drubbing in California, it must have been clear that the Canucks are probably not cup contenders.
Playing a team like Calgary to a draw and a shoot out was another indication that the Canucks need some help. The best thing was that the Canucks actually scored some goals in the shoot out. The other good thing was that Luongo looked pretty good.
Can't say I fully agree there #Juan, every team has a stinker at one point. Those three games were no more typical of the Canucks than the previous 10 games were. The Cup all depends on what point the team is in their cycle when the playoffs occur. Maybe come playoff time the Ducks could fall flat on their A$$. Look what happened to the Sharks after their fantastic start to the season.
i agree juan, and i felt that way,' early on,' they just don't have the horses, and as i said before, i
have accepted them that way this season, they seem to be starting a transition now, and gillis needs to
slowly replace/add other players so that they don't slide too far down before they start to improve
again.
when they get their full team back, they will do better, but it is pretty clear, the groups who are
strongest at this point, but don't think some of them can't faulter too if they lose important
players from injury.
canucks can still make the playoffs, if they get healthy, but they are not going to blow the socks off
like l.a. did two years ago, but in playoffs, one never knows.
sure calgary isn't very strong in the league, BUT they know how to work now, they have learned that
aspect of the game, and that can carry teams along very well, get them some wins, and scare a few
teams who think they are pushovers.
our goalies are very good this season, have played an important part for sure, luongo has a huge
motivating factor, THE OLYMPICS, so the canucks benefit from that, so be it, he wants to be the
starter at the olympics, he has a huge push coming from price for that job, so he is playing with
that highly competetive effort, and it shows.
we just have to live with ebbs and flows with our hockey teams, everyone does, while edmonton struggles to
get better, and calgary, so, what i want for canucks is, for gillis to start now, to rebuild, 'forget
about the cup', start turning the team around before they hit the bottom, like calgary and edmonton did,
and some other teams in the league.
i can easily live with, and enjoy the team as a middle of the road team for awhile, which probably
means 3 or 4 years, if lucky, then start to push upward again.
the sharks are a very strong team, and if they stay healthy, can be a cup contender, but this pacific
division is the strongest in the nhl, and that includes the sharks.
For years the team has lived in an easy division with an unbalanced schedule (more against easy opponents) up until now. No chance to get high order draft picks etc. More often having to deal away whatever picks they had to keep the boat afloat. Chicago built an entire team by bottom feeding. The fact the Canucks are still competitive on most nights is probably as good as we can expect. I'm sure they'll head down for a few years.
Could be some truth in that Kreskin, the twins are getting a little long in the tooth and will likely be gone in 5-7 years and they could be hard to replace. Maybe Luongo too.
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they won't be hard to replace if 'gillis' helps the team transition over the next 3 to 4 years, it
should be a smooth seamless transition, just as it was when naslund left, he had lost much of his
top end talent by then as well, and the twins were there, but they didn't rise to fame for quite a
while when they first came, but we still had linden, and a few others, who were strong players, giving
the twins time to develope. it can be done, there is no reason for gillis to allow this team to hit
bottom, just start now, and 'do your job'.
i checked the farm team, and they are at the bottom of the ahl league now, lots of players, but not
many who look dangerous, i hope gillis isn't planning a vacation this year, cAuse he doesn't have
time, he needs to nuckle down and make a difference.
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True, he looks like he's about to have a heart attack or stroke whenever I see him.
my guess about torterella seems a bit light, as the tv so-called experts figure he will
be suspended for a couple of weeks.
he does have a hearing tomorrow, not a phone hearing, he has to go there, so he is definitely
in hot water, whatever, i don't really care, it was all ridiculous on both sides, bob hartley
will probably get fined as well for his attempt to start the game with some sort of violence, which did
happen.
life goes on, assistant coaches will coach, the teams will play, and torts can watch from the press box,
but he has brought his pristine personality to an end in vancouver, and the attitude about how much he
is behaving like an adult, is tarnished now, and the media is having a ball with it, they love it, it
seems they are the winners.
be suspended for a couple of weeks.
he does have a hearing tomorrow, not a phone hearing, he has to go there, so he is definitely
in hot water, whatever, i don't really care, it was all ridiculous on both sides, bob hartley
will probably get fined as well for his attempt to start the game with some sort of violence, which did
happen.
life goes on, assistant coaches will coach, the teams will play, and torts can watch from the press box,
but he has brought his pristine personality to an end in vancouver, and the attitude about how much he
is behaving like an adult, is tarnished now, and the media is having a ball with it, they love it, it
seems they are the winners.
you're right, a time out would be good for 'all', give the team some time to exhale and think about their
season, their situation, and 'he' can sit there and know he gave everyone a little bit of what he
has been storing up, and he can think about 'that', he has to know now that all of vancouver won't
look at him quite the same, they might wonder 'if' this was a good idea or not.
i sure wouldn't want bob hartley as the coach, i've always thought he should be in a world war two movie,
as a german general, perfect face for it, and after his behavior while torts was demanding an explanation,
he has the perfect personality as well.
yes, i've mentioned the same to my husband, as we watch him being interviewed, especially on 'after hours'
last year, the sweat was running down his face, he was red as a beet, and i sincerely felt concern that
he was oK.
I'm not sure I've ever seen a team miss so many gimme goals. Their inability to put a puck in a net, even when it's gaping wide, must be driving him crazy. Scoring on at least some of them would bring some sanity back to everyone, including him.
Absolutely. I don't suppose there is any way we can get Vigneault back........didn't think so.
I'm wondering if that Bob Hartley isn't just as much of an idiot as Torts. I'd say it was he that instigated the whole thing. (From my meagre knowledge) L.O.L.
I've wondered that- mind you during their 8 game winning stretch maybe they got one or two that were lucky.
Was Vigneault a little too passive?
I wouldn't want vineault back, i like torterella, and so do the players, he is a good coach.
i don't mind his reactions to 'stuff' that happens on the ice, goals etc. i like his passion,
and his honesty.
his interviews are intelligent and well said, eg. he answered a question the other day about
kassian, and he gave a very well thought out answer concerning how he wants to coach him, etc.
his trip to the calgary dressing room was a bit over the top, he will have to answer for that, but
i agreed with his reaction to hartley putting all of tough guys on the ice to start the game,
he was right to be mad.
i didn't hear you whine about him when they were doing all the winning this season, had a lot of wins
in a row, and looked very good, was that 'in spite' of him or?
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Yep, the boy just has a bit of a temper, not much wrong with that under certain circumstances!
I think a suspension would be down right stupid, it would punish the team more than John and would put their success in jeopardy. But of course with so many idiots allowed to make decisions these days you just never know.
I see Hank is sidelined due to injury.