How about them Canucks!

[shadowshiv]

They ended up being outshot 52-35 and last 4-3 in OT. Of course, giving the Sharks a PP in OT is not a very smart thing to do. I haven't seen the play, so I don't know if it was warranted or not. That being said, they don't have anyone to blame but themselves. First round sweep. I imagine that AV will be getting turfed sooner rather than later.

 

[talloola]

At least they played their 'good' game tonight and not their 'bad' game.

It is very irritating to see them play this good, after watching the miserable
display of hockey in the last game, the first game and parts of the 2nd game.
I'm glad they didn't go down playing pitiful hockey, like we have seen of late.

Where was that
in the first three games.
A big question mark.

I have a lot of mixed feelings right now, because I can forsee so many changes coming. We won't
see Luongo any more (maybe?)

There will be player changes, and lots of them in the off season. The twins have one more year
on their contract, so they will be back, but who knows 'after that'.

How can edler play so bad, then play so good, he is a puzzle. (brain freeze)

They have only themselves to blame, they lost it in the third game, there was no coming all the
way back after that, it has only been done 3 times in the past.

Haven't heard from Gillis in a while, wonder if he's been holed up somewhere, afraid to come out.

I will be sorry to see vineault go, but i'm sure that will happen, and it is time. everything has
its time. that is just the way it is, the team needs new faces to lead them, and some new players
to join them, then they can come back next year, and try again.

the officiating was terrible, but that isn't why they are finished. officiating has been terrible
for a long time.
the sharks made a serious decision 'not' to take penalties, they didn't not want to face canucks'
power play, I don't know why, it hasn't been very good for a long time.

even mason raymond had a very good game last night, makes one scratch their head, as
the first 3 games he was terrible, just skated up and down the perimiter, got knocked
down constantly, had the puck taken away, but not last night.

canucks are the first one's knocked out in the playoffs, for the second year, very dissapointing indeed.

 

[JLM]

They ended up being outshot 52-35 and last 4-3 in OT. Of course, giving the Sharks a PP in OT is not a very smart thing to do. I haven't seen the play, so I don't know if it was warranted or not. That being said, they don't have anyone to blame but themselves. First round sweep. I imagine that AV will be getting turfed sooner rather than later.

Yep, possibly! How soon they forget he took them to the 7th game of the final round 2 years ago. Didn't a famous man say something to the effect that "the bad a guy does lives after him while the good is oft interred with his bones"? -

At least they played their 'good' game tonight and not their 'bad' game.

It is very irritating to see them play this good, after watching the miserable
display of hockey in the last game, the first game and parts of the 2nd game.
I'm glad they didn't go down playing pitiful hockey, like we have seen of late.

Where was that
in the first three games.
A big question mark.

I have a lot of mixed feelings right now, because I can forsee so many changes coming. We won't
see Luongo any more (maybe?)

There will be player changes, and lots of them in the off season. The twins have one more year
on their contract, so they will be back, but who knows 'after that'.

How can edler play so bad, then play so good, he is a puzzle. (brain freeze)

They have only themselves to blame, they lost it in the third game, there was no coming all the
way back after that, it has only been done 3 time in the past.

Haven't heard from Gillis in a while, wonder if he's been holed up somewhere, afraid to come out.

I will be sorry to see vineault go, but i'm sure that will happen, and it is time. everything has
its time. that is just the way it is, the team needs new faces to lead them, and some new players
to join them, then they can come back next year, and try again.

the officiating was terrible, but that isn't why they are finished. officiating has been terrible
for a long time.
the sharks made a serious decision 'not' to take penalties, they didn't not want to face canucks'
power play, I don't know why, it hasn't been very good for a long time.

canucks are the first one's knocked out in the playoffs, for the second year, very dissapointing indeed.

Yep, it's a sad day in Mudville!

 

[Kreskin]

Daniel is a goon.

 

[talloola]

Daniel is a goon.

its about time. lol

 

[JLM]

Daniel is a goon.

Ironically, it was exactly a year ago he got "gooned".

 

[talloola]

Ironically, it was exactly a year ago he got "gooned".

yep, i'll never forget him crawling to the bench door, then he knocked on it so one
of his teamates would open it for him, it was very sad.

that was 'dustin brown' who hit him, don't think there was even a penalty.

every time someone sends dustin brown flying through the air, I have such
a feeling of joy. lol

 

[talloola]

Canucks should've waved the towels ala Neilson after the Bieksa call. Reffing is pathetic.

yes the reffing is and has been for a long time, 'pathetic'. It has become the norm for the NHL, but
more noticeable in the playoffs I guess, for obvious reasons.

It isn't why canucks lost the series, and even last night after daniel's bad call, the winning goal was
schneider's mistake, as he thought he had sent the puck to the corner, not realizing it was right behind
him, just sitting there for marleau to shoot in the net., so canucks could very well have killed off
that penalty and the overtime would have continued on.

playing through poor reffing is a very sad part of the NHL, not sure if they will ever solve that
problem.

and if canucks think they can make some sort of impact on the reffing by openly complaining, criticizing,
and whining, they are wrong, it only makes it worse, 'for them', because the refs don't like to be
singled out and they don't forget, the complaining should come from management, to the league.

I admire 'burrows', as he has been a marked man ever since he had that run-in with the ref who told
him he would be out to get him in the game, (during the warm-up), burrows brought that out in the
open, it was a national story, and now players can 'almost' do anything they want to burrows without
being called for it, and also he is called for many penalties which he hasn't done much of anything.
They look for him on the ice, and just wait for him to do 'anything'.

He just bites his lip, and skates away, he is an elite player now, a smart player, he has made his
way to the top, any team would jump at the chance to get him, and he doesn't act up any more like he
did years ago.

He had a great game last night.
,

 

[coldstream]

More signs that the Regular Season mean almost nothing in the NHL with 16 teams making Playoffs.You might as well save your strength and come in eighth in the Division. The NFL and MLB at least limit their playoffs to 8 (or so) teams and wind things up in 4 to 5 weeks.. before exhaustion sets in.. for quality of play and intensity of fan interest.

 

[talloola]

More signs that the Regular Season mean almost nothing in the NHL with 16 teams making Playoffs.You might as well save your strength and come in eighth in the Division. The NFL and MLB at least limit their playoffs to 8 (or so) teams and wind things up in 4 to 5 weeks.. before exhaustion sets in.. for quality of play and intensity of fan interest.

I like the NHL method of playoffs.

I like the two conferences, and the 8 top teams playing off for the right to play for the cup.

I like the fact that once playoffs roll around, all teams are on a level playing field, and the
8th place team has a chance to knock off the 1st place team.

Many things happen during a season, such as injuries that can sometimes cause teams to fall in
the standings, then when all are healthy, fight to comeback, and at playoff time that team could
be strong and ready to compete, but are sitting in 6,7, or 8th spot.

With 16 teams in the playoffs, 16 cities are kept interested, and don't fade away because their
team is out of the loop long before playoffs, because there is only 6 or 8 teams eligible from the whole league.

The quality of play in playoffs is high, all teams rise to the occasion most of the
time, and if they don't they are out early, (eg. canucks).
I watch almost all of the games, at least in part and many of them, the whole game,
and it is exciting and very competetive.

I think NHL format is just fine.

 

[pkbii]

The Canucks pulled off a nice 3 - 1 win over the Red Wings. The new goaltenter did a good job.

Any comments?

You mean the Montreal Canadians right not the Vancouver Canucks ?

 

[Cliffy]

You mean the Montreal Canadians right not the Vancouver Canucks ?

The post you responded to is 7 years old.

 

[damngrumpy]

Yes seven years old and nothing has changed or improved. Here is a team poorly
managed, poorly coached, and a bunch of slackers without direction. the goalies
are hopeless and what else could one say.
Even Saint Jude couldn't turn this thing around.

 

[JLM]

Yes seven years old and nothing has changed or improved. Here is a team poorly
managed, poorly coached, and a bunch of slackers without direction. the goalies
are hopeless and what else could one say.
Even Saint Jude couldn't turn this thing around.

So, quite a bit has changed after only four games!
President's Trophy two years in a row, is at odds over that assessment!

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

The post you responded to is 7 years old.

He's just a Canuck fan reliving old glories rather than current dispair.

 

[Cannuck]

Yes seven years old and nothing has changed or improved. Here is a team poorly
managed, poorly coached, and a bunch of slackers without direction. the goalies
are hopeless and what else could one say.
Even Saint Jude couldn't turn this thing around.

It's not all bad for the Nucks. They have a decent regular season team. They just aren't built for the playoffs. Some folks are happy with Presidents trophies. Myself, not so much. I doubt the players care about it....I mean, when was the last time there was a President's Trophy parade. In any event, you got 80 games of relatively decent hockey and that's more than Flames fans got.

 

[talloola]

I watched the complete 'mike gillis' press conference' at noon today. It was very interesting, and
many pertinent subjects were addressed.
He realizes along with the aquilini family that there needs to be major changes made to the team
to bring it into the present hockey style, which is changing from top high end, talented players, to
younger more gritty players, and a style of game that is more dump and chase, blocking shots, and
battling in the corners, and more size as well.

I agree with that analogy, it is very apparent, that is the game being played today, and the officiating
is catering to that style as well.

He won't be addressing vineault's situation for a week or so, along with 'his own' situation, and he
will be presenting a 'new' format for the team to the aquilini family at that time, for them to
address, and make 'their' decision as to what 'they' want to do as well.

He said that his job, as well as vineault's job will be evaluated, along with the teams, then decisions
will be made, how to move forward.

I was satisfied with his statements, and if they decide to keep him on, I am in favour of that, from
what he said during the press conference, he 'does' recognize the problems, and does recognize
what needs to be done to change that.

Even if they keep vineault and gillis, going forward, that is fine with me, as the team 'will' change,
and no one 'coming into the team' will know the team like they do, and they can make the changes
much easier, than someone who needs to 'get to know' everyone, then move forward without being
familiar with everyone involved.

If they let vineault go, and keep gillis, that will work as well, as he allready knows, in depth
who he is working with, and what he needs to do.

He recognizes that things haven't always worked, but he also stated that in a 48 game season, it
was very difficult to make everything happen, there wasn't time.

Of course he did not discuss individual players today, that is understandable, and he said
all the players will have their season end meetings with management, and they will go from there,
and begin making their changes.

The Luongo situation will be dealt with during the summer.

I believe the 'entry draft' is around June 15th, so all of management needs to be in place at that
time, to make their picks.

 

[talloola]

I watched the complete 'mike gillis' press conference' at noon today. It was very interesting, and
many pertinent subjects were addressed.
He realizes along with the aquilini family that there needs to be major changes made to the team
I believe the 'entry draft' is around June 15th, so all of management needs to be in place at that
time, to make their picks.

I just want to add 'that'. The expression 'blow up the team' is a convenient, but empty saying.
If one blows up a team, each player has to be replaced with a player who is 'better', 'impossible'
as there are 29 other teams trying to get better players too.

There has to be a core left to build from, to give support players to.

The core on the canucks is pretty obvious, and even a small number of 'those' players might go, as age
is a factor, and younger is also cheaper.

The cap is going down about 9 million I think, so every team who is at the top of the cap will be
scrambling to do the same.

We also cannot wonder how canucks can't have players like edmonton, pittsburgh, chicago, etc., unless
of course, you want your team to go down the toilet for about 6 or 7 years, and have all of those
top draft picks, then wait for them to develope together, NOPE, I will be happy with a very competetive
team, like we have had for a number of years, that can compete with any team all season, and not be
the door mats of the league, then make the playoffs, and battle in the playoffs, and that is where
the problem is right now.

They know it, and will do their best to fix it, with or without a new coach, and/or general manager.
I don't think the g.m. would have been sent out the other day to take questions and make statements
if they were going to fire him a week later, that would be dumb.

 

[talloola]

the following letter is legit, but the canucks sports and entertainment letterhead title did not
copy, as well as the final ending, as well as the aquilini name.

I have no comment, just sending this along for your information.

___________________________________________________________________________________________





To all Canucks fans,

Thank you for your passion and support for our team; it is an honour and a privilege to host and play in front of you. However, this season and the way it ended was a disappointment to all of us.

Everyone in our organization expects more – and we know you do as well. It is my responsibility as the leader of this organization to evaluate all aspects of our hockey club and find ways to improve. This off-season will lead to difficult decisions including roster adjustments and changes in personnel. We're going to have to reinvent ourselves in order to be successful.

On behalf of our entire organization, I thank you for your loyalty and assure you we will work as hard as we can to make you proud and to ultimately win the Stanley Cup.


Sincerely,





Michael D. Gillis
President & General Manager
Vancouver Canucks



WE ARE ALL CANUCKS

 

[talloola]

Unconfirmed, but definitely seems that vineault and his coaching staff have been fired. The news
came out of quebec, and team 1040 stated they have other reports as well.

Nothing from the canucks yet.

Unconfirmed, but definitely seems that vineault and his coaching staff have been fired. The news
came out of quebec, and team 1040 stated they have other reports as well.

Nothing from the canucks yet.

mike gillis press conference at 3:30