How about them Canucks!

talloola

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Interesting that the Canucks got over the loss of Kesler by other people stepping up
and filling in. The Sedins again were excellent. Gillis seems to be resigned to keeping
both goaltenders for the rest of the season and that could also be a positive thing.

yes it is a positive thing, BUT he did say, again last night, that if he finds a reason to move a
goalie, 'that' will make the team better, he will do it.
 

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yes it is a positive thing, BUT he did say, again last night, that if he finds a reason to move a
goalie, 'that' will make the team better, he will do it.

I don't know what the Canucks need exactly......a few good defensmen........somebody who can score some goals........
consistent goaltending.........They'll be lucky to make the play-offs the way they are playing right now.
 

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I don't know what the Canucks need exactly......a few good defensmen........somebody who can score some goals........
consistent goaltending.........They'll be lucky to make the play-offs the way they are playing right now.

they need to fix their power-play.
 

#juan

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they need to fix their power-play.

They just gave Schnieder a bug contract and he hasn't been play like a ten
million dollar goaltender......not last night anyway. I probably would have
pulled Schnieder after the third goal but it likely wouldn't have helped.

Do Kesler and Biaksa(sp)make that much of a difference? Kesler will
be away for another few weeks anyway....I missed what was wrong with
Bieksa
 

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They just gave Schnieder a bug contract and he hasn't been play like a ten
million dollar goaltender......not last night anyway. I probably would have
pulled Schnieder after the third goal but it likely wouldn't have helped.

Do Kesler and Biaksa(sp)make that much of a difference? Kesler will
be away for another few weeks anyway....I missed what was wrong with
Bieksa

yeah, the goalies have been OK of late, but not great, but that can change.
Didn't schneider get a 5 mil per season contract?, which is about right for
a goalie like him, and he is very tradeable, and young. I don't see him as
better than luongo, so lu could stay, and they could get a good back up for
him, and a good strong player in return for schneider, 'just a thought'.

Bieksa is still suffering from that same groin injury, guess he came back too soon.
and Kesler has a broken bone in his foot, anoher 3 weeks I think for him.

I do think Bieksa makes a diference because it settles the defense into their more
comfortble pairings.
I wonder about Kesler, as the way he plays, i'm always waiting for him to get injured again,
as his body doesn't seem to respond well to all the banging and crashing he does, but he doesn't
seem to be able to play any other way, he has never been a smooth finess type player, he has to do
things his way, and that might be his downfall eventually.

Schraeder is going back to chicago and ebbet and pinizotto are coming up. pinizotto is a
fourth line guy, very tough, but has had injuries the past two years, hopefully he is free
of that now, I remember him in a training camp two years ago, and he really stood out as
a player to make the team, then he got a serious shoulder injury at that camp, and then
another injury later on the farm team, so now they will get another look at him to see if
he can stay, and of course he can't be expected to shine immediately, as he hasn't played at
nhl level yet.
Trade deadline coming in a about 3 weeks, I have a feeling gillis will be active then, maybe can get one
of the goalies moved out for strong forward.
 
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The Canucks game tonight was the usual debacle where the Canucks defense was weak and also as usual,
they had trouble scoring goals. The last time I looked it was 4 - 1 for the Red Wings.
 

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The Canucks game tonight was the usual debacle where the Canucks defense was weak and also as usual,
they had trouble scoring goals. The last time I looked it was 4 - 1 for the Red Wings.
You wouldn't have thunk it the way the first one went in. I fell asleep shortly thereafter!
 

talloola

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The Canucks game tonight was the usual debacle where the Canucks defense was weak and also as usual,
they had trouble scoring goals. The last time I looked it was 4 - 1 for the Red Wings.

final 5-2, some good games, some good periods, some not so good, that seems to be the way it is this
season, they play minnesota soon, they are tied in points again, but minny ahead on stat sheet.
Did you notice how much datsyuk 'controlled' last nights game, we all have to
admire the amazing skills he has, and feel lucky to see him play,he is a true
gentleman in the game, and so very talented.
 

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well Nashville lost to edmonton tonight, 3 straight losses in the northwest. They will not soon
forget this trip, not a good one.

from 3rd to 13th place in the northwest division, is squished, and down the stretch teams could
jump up the list and drop down the list, and the top 8 teams that will make the playoffs, with exception
of 'chicago and anaheim', might not be settled till right near the end of the season.

a dog fight, I love it.

Winnipeg lost to ottawa today, but it was their second game in 'less' than 24 hours,
asking a lot of a team, they will bounce back, i'm hoping for the jets to make
the playoffs this year.

I should have posted this in the NHL thread, wasn't paying attention.
 
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#juan

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final 5-2, some good games, some good periods, some not so good, that seems to be the way it is this
season, they play minnesota soon, they are tied in points again, but minny ahead on stat sheet.
Did you notice how much datsyuk 'controlled' last nights game, we all have to
admire the amazing skills he has, and feel lucky to see him play,he is a true
gentleman in the game, and so very talented.

Against the Red Wings, the Canucks were simply outworked. The Canucks scored very early ...something like 6 seconds
into the first period. It was like they ran out of energy, They played not too badly for a period but the Wings were just too
much for the Vancouver team. Time to get a decent player or two for one of those two super goaltenders.
 

talloola

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Against the Red Wings, the Canucks were simply outworked. The Canucks scored very early ...something like 6 seconds
into the first period. It was like they ran out of energy, They played not too badly for a period but the Wings were just too
much for the Vancouver team. Time to get a decent player or two for one of those two super goaltenders.

yes that game was like that, but detroit is having their own troubles this year, they aren't the team they
have been, over the years, and other teams have been doing the same to them, and the western conference is
like that this year, as I said, other than chicago and anaheim, most of the conference is doing the same
thing, so I guess it depends who is the lucky ones at the end, and finish in the top 8.

Canucks have lots of games this week. How they do in those games will be very important.

Booth is injured again, ankle injury, so schrader is coming up again, so they are having their troubles with
some injuries, but for me, the goaltending is the key, as luongo didn't play well last game, so i'm assuming
his little run of games is over, and schneider will have a chance to redeem himself, as he wasn't playing
that well either, so both of them need to sharpen up.
Two goals in the detroit game were soft, that made a big difference in the game, made the score stretch
out a bit, puts the game out of reach, and takes a bit of fight out of the team.

Just because canucks have been the strength of the division for awhile doesn't mean it will automatically
continue that way, the other teams are getting better, 'nothing' stays the same for long.
 

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I thought canucks played very well tonight, outshot minnesota by lots, and had many good scoring chances.

Backstrom played awsome for minny, stopped almost everything shot his way.
I have seen some fine play from many goalies this season, and a team plays with confidence when
they know their goalie will not let them down, and backstrom certainly did that for his team tonight,
and of course a bit of luck goes along with that as well.


Luongo played fine too, but that third goal was horrible, ballard made a poor decision when he left
his position to do a body check, as tanev took his man, and ballard's man was left 'all' alone to
go right in on luongo to score. Vineault will be leaving ballard in the press box next time i'm sure,
as he isn't happy about his play in certain games and that error was a bad one.


St. Louis next
 

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Curious as to what people think of Dubnyk, goalie for the Oilers. Does anyone see him, right now, as the starting goalie? (not necessarily comparing him toKhabibulin or [FONT=&quot]Danis[/FONT][FONT=&quot].) [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]Or perhaps sometime in the future. I have watched the Oilers since they were in the WHA. I know some of their goalies could stop shots that were totally out of their sight. Just looking for opinions.
 
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talloola

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Curious as to what people think of Dubnyk, goalie for the Oilers. Does anyone see him, right now, as the starting goalie? (not necessarily comparing him toKhabibulin or [FONT=&quot]Danis[/FONT][FONT=&quot].) [/FONT][FONT=&quot][/FONT]Or perhaps sometime in the future. I have watched the Oilers since they were in the WHA. I know some of their goalies could stop shots that were totally out of their sight. Just looking for opinions.

I think he is great, i've watched him lots, he will be a part of oilers for years to come, khabibulin is also
great, but his age will bring him to the end of his career soon.
 

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yes that game was like that, but detroit is having their own troubles this year, they aren't the team they
have been, over the years, and other teams have been doing the same to them, and the western conference is
like that this year, as I said, other than chicago and anaheim, most of the conference is doing the same
thing, so I guess it depends who is the lucky ones at the end, and finish in the top 8.

Canucks have lots of games this week. How they do in those games will be very important.

Booth is injured again, ankle injury, so schrader is coming up again, so they are having their troubles with
some injuries, but for me, the goaltending is the key, as luongo didn't play well last game, so i'm assuming
his little run of games is over, and schneider will have a chance to redeem himself, as he wasn't playing
that well either, so both of them need to sharpen up.
Two goals in the detroit game were soft, that made a big difference in the game, made the score stretch
out a bit, puts the game out of reach, and takes a bit of fight out of the team.

Just because canucks have been the strength of the division for awhile doesn't mean it will automatically
continue that way, the other teams are getting better, 'nothing' stays the same for long.

Tonight the Canucks will be playing their second game in as many nights and I shudder to think how it might go.
Maybe the whole team will wake up and win a game just for their self respect.
Some commentators suggested that Vinault's job might be in jeapardy but somebody has to make a trade while these two goaltenders are still worth something.....if they are still worth something....I would say their value is shrinking with every loss they put on the board.
 

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Tonight the Canucks will be playing their second game in as many nights and I shudder to think how it might go.
Maybe the whole team will wake up and win a game just for their self respect.
Some commentators suggested that Vinault's job might be in jeapardy but somebody has to make a trade while these two goaltenders are still worth something.....if they are still worth something....I would say their value is shrinking with every loss they put on the board.

There is no market for any goalies right now, the whole league seems to be standing pat with their goalie,
so if gillis wanted to drop luongo's price drastically maybe somebody would bite, someone has to blink.

St. Louis is on a roll right now, take notice in tonights game, all of the good players they have, 'who' are
playing well right now, they had their poor stretch, but came out of it, when canucks were having their winning stretch, now its the other way round, will be nice if canucks can burst st. louis's bubble.

Kassian will be back tonight, but he hasn't been scoring, all of his goals came when he played with the
twins, but at that time the twins weren't scoring, so he was pulled off of that line, hence his goal scoring
dropped off drastically, but I see him with lots of upside, I like him.

I have a feeling gillis is on the phone most of the time trying to swing a trade of some sort, just isn't
happening, but maybe he has to put his pride aside concerning luongo, and make something happen, but that
contract isn't easy to trade, but he did the contract, now he has to live with it.
I am noticing as time goes on, that gillis's transactions aren't all that good, ballard for one makes far
too much money and isn't working out. I like the hodgson trade because his family was interferring and
he was also whining because he wanted to be higher up on the team, and play more, had no consideration for
waiting till it would be his time, and that would have happen ed with all of kesler's injuries, he would
have stepped in and played in his place, but he wanted everything 'now'. He is doing well, but he is also
playing on the top line, hence more points, if he was on the third line, his point production would not be
as high.
Trading Grabner was a mistake.
Erhoff couldn't be helped, he wanted too much money compared to other defencemen, then buffalo offered him
the world, can't compete with that.
There are others, but i'm not going to drag on.
If they want to change coach, they should do it in the off season, and perhaps change the gen. manager then
as well, NOT NOW, the season is winding down, a new coach and mgr wouldn't make any difference right now.
Our goalie's must play better, and the power play must improve, and last night I saw a different style
on that power play, and it looked better, garrison looked good last night, so if they keep him there on the
point, some of his shots will start going in, either on redirect or directly.

So rather than looking at the problem generally, I like to see 'those' two reasons, and if those improve, all
will be well again.

If the power play does well, the twins look good, they are specialty players much more than they are 5 on 5
players, they need the power play to make them shine.
 
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#juan

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Surprise surprise, the Canucks won tonight. Being it was their second game in as many nights, I didn't expect much.

Tonight's game was probably won by Cory Schneider. He made some incredible saves to keep the Canucks in the game.
The Canucks led 3 - 0 after the second period and held on to that lead until well into the third when a couple defensive blunders
allowed the wild to get back in the game. There was a delayed penalty called against the Wild late in the third and the entire Canucks
team ragged the puck and kept posession and wasted timefor what seemed like quite a long while
.
 

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yeah, hanson was very cheaky playing keep-away during the delayed penalty.
and they almost scored another very pretty goal, but bieksa didn't quite
direct it in.

canucks scored some very pretty goals, a pleasure to watch.

schneider kept them in the game all thru the fist period for sure, but they came out in the
second and played top notch hockey, then the third st. louis put on a big push to catch
up, almost worked.

canucks play in phoenix thursday then los angelos saturday and colorado sunday.

winning and losing is what its all about, but last night canucks didn't play as
well (for 60 minutes), but did find the back of the net 3 times, night before
they played a better game, but got stoned by a goaie, that is the nature of the
game, people only seem to dwell on the win or the loss and don't notice the
ins and outs and exactly why things happen.

If canucks had of allowed the 3 goals that st. louis did last night, canuck fans
would have blamed our goalie, and would not have seen how pretty and great those
goals were.

That slap shot by hanson was a laser, after a great pass from raymond,the pass by schroeder to weiss was as
pretty a pass one will ever see, then weiss finished it off nicely, then the
thread the needle pass from henrik to daniel, who had snuck in from the blue
line, received pass and made a perfect shot, all 3 were highlght goals.

The one goal that st. louis scored just bounced off of someone and in the goal,
a bad bounce, happens all the time in hockey, can't remmber the second one.
 
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talloola

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yeah,
ins and outs and exactly why things happen.

If canucks had of allowed the 3 goals that st. louis did last night, canuck fans
would have blamed our goalie, and would not have seen how pretty and great those
goals were.

That slap shot by hanson was a laser, after a great pass from raymond,the pass by schroeder to weiss was as
pretty a pass one will ever see, then weiss finished it off nicely, then the
thread the needle pass from henrik to daniel, who had snuck in from the blue
line, received pass and made a perfect shot, all 3 were highlght goals.

The one goal that st. louis scored just bounced off of someone and in the goal,
a bad bounce, happens all the time in hockey, can't remmber the second one.

Oh yeah, I remember that second goal by st Louis, the puck was shot from the blue line, and bounced
in the net off of tanev's arm pit, another lucky bounce, jus part of the game.
 

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a good win for canucks tonight. good defensive hockey, great game by cory schneider.

not an entertaining game, but hockey is hockey and I'll take it however its played.

tanev scored a nice goal and also schraeder who was johnny on the spot to tap one in.

more injuries for canucks and another player was called up from chicago, and ballard

played wing tonight to help out, and played well.