Horror Day of Israeli Attacks:

captain morgan

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Perhaps the Jews are just a little jealous that the RCC has fukked over Indian children for 100 years after the war ended and they want to turn Gaza into a Residential School so they can outdo what the RCC did and prove to the world who is the biggest abomination.

... When did this become about the RCC and Indians?... Oh, that's right, it morphed into this the very moment that you ran out of any intelligible argument.

... So, what's next?... Gonna lay the blame on Brian Mulroney?
 

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You should have mentioned that earlier... It's clearly in the Geneva Convention and UN Articles that publishing plans of genocide is perfectly acceptable if more than 7 people have been deported from somewhere at some time.

Looks like you got me on a technicality there
The offer of finding which article applies would keep both of us from saying things that aren't covered. How about even if that route isn't followed a few terms can be gone over so there is mistaking who is who.
The Military is a part of the Govt is the ones that issue the orders and the soldiers carry it out if it fits in with the UN Articles of War and they should refuse it if it is not a legal order.

A few more books will be needed apparently.
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The war crime of making financial gain off of 'occupied territories' would be in those texts, are they counted as something Israel should change or ignored because Israel uses the false claim of security while not mentioning that she is pocketing money. One or the other but not all for you all the time and nothing for the Arabs all the time.

Think of all the out of work treaty law lawyers that could have Palestinian students on-line where the teaching involves them filing their homework with some branch of the ICC where trial dates are set in stone. One single trial would start a domino effect.

Those same rule-books would cover the conflict further north where the Govt is shooting at people heading for Russia's border just so there are fewer refugees. A refugee is somebody who has to leave their home, deported means you have to leave the country. It would be a lawyers heaven to argue that point. Gaza is a locked facility so locking the doors and then starting a planned fire never goes well for the defendant in court. Language is an issue in the Ukraine and Canada has shown that a country can function with two official languages and only a few more people that speak both would be needed as the people can read and write in their own language and computers are faster and better at sorting documents.
I would say whatever commander is is in charge of a group that hits a school or hospital would be the fall guy. You can also bet his crew would be getting the most practice in the 'this is a test' period.

The air campaign was against the imaginary missiles, just like the last few times and this time didn't see any changes so no new weapons have been added to the iron dome. This campaign is different as there is a ground campaign that would have a set goal. With all the attention given to tunnels in the press the ground offensive is set to capture a security zone inside the wall. That km and whatever would certainly have tunnels in it as parts used to be called a city utilities. Parts have been without sewer and water for years so they would be bone dry. Get some horizontal drilling crews over there and the path underground can be tracked above ground and let's see how many 100's have been made it under the wall. This campaign did have something new in that bumker busters were used that targetb the area at about the 20ft level, the depth that services are installed at. Before the rebuilding meant scrapping off the rubble and putting up a new structure and the old pipes could be used. Now the whole area for a block in every direction would need the pipes replaced. The new security zone requires all the old utility tunnels have to be collapsed or they would be used, not that they have been used. There isn't anything noble in any of that.

It isn't that I and others can't be convinced, it's what is on the table isn't entirely convincing and the seems to be great effort extended in not supplying the parts that are asked for that would clear the mysteries up. Stalling that would seem to make a person part of the problem rather than being part of the solution.

I walk past several schools while walking the dog. They are probably hit because they stand out in an aerial targeting map, that they wait for a lot of heat signatures to be there is as goulish as it ever gets. That they can do it without shedding tears means they are not in touch with reality anymore. There is a treatment, the first stage is to grab hold of them so they don't fall because of their own erratic behavior. After that standard shock treatment except the duration is a decade long. Sit down is the first task you should be able to accomplish on your own. Thinking and talking come next and that is the proper order.

... When did this become about the RCC and Indians?... Oh, that's right, it morphed into this the very moment that you ran out of any intelligible argument.

... So, what's next?... Gonna lay the blame on Brian Mulroney?
Meaning the charges would never be followed through with and Canada would throw him $10M just for mentioning his name in the wrong sentence. Guilt not being a factor, . . . that Brian Mulroney??

... When did this become about the RCC and Indians?...
Do you not see two cases where one group claims to be under unfair persecution and the other group says they aren't, end of story. In neither case does that seem like a totally just conclusion when that path could be taken for all issues. If either persecuted group still feels violated the next step would be the ICC. If the 1st Nations wanted them to hear their grievances I wouldn't be against that and I'd be willing to accept the judgment once all arguments were said and done. Being stalled for 20 years in the Canadian Courts is something that looks a bit corrupt with the Crown slowing things down as much as possible, it might be legal but it doesn't impress me.

If I used Jews and Masada and Rome would you be able to see the picture. Should Gaza give into Rome? or fight onto the last person rather than lose their identity. The war against the 1st Nations didn't end with the shooting stopping. That is when the Church and State went after decimating a culture while not intigrating the beaten into society. Would you really wish that same treatment to happen in Gaza? You're a bit warped, this is way beyond that.
 

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Meaning the charges would never be followed through with and Canada would throw him $10M just for mentioning his name in the wrong sentence. Guilt not being a factor, . . . that Brian Mulroney??

Try to follow along, m'kay there champ?

Save your alternate rants for the applicable venue


Do you not see two cases where one group claims to be under unfair persecution and the other group says they aren't,

Wow.. Just think of all the 4 and 5 years olds that are getting a smaller piece of cake than their brother... Sounds like a clear-cut case of unfair persecution to me.

Quick! Call the UN... It's genocide!!!

A few more books will be needed apparently.
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I almost forgot... There is another Law of War that states: 'Bringing a knife to a gun fight is a bad idea'
 

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Try to follow along, m'kay there champ?
It used to all be funneled into one thread. This a tactic to avoid seeing thing in black and white?

Forgive the rants, I'll try to stick to the current events but you seem to have shorten the history part up too much. If you are the overly emotional type I can be less blunt but really id something like article 51 doesn't sway you then so be it, that doesn't mean I can't reference that as part of why my opinion is the way it is. I don't use Gaza to show how wrong Canada's Government is but it is certainly an example of our lack of ability to stop and act on something that can be defined as being 'wrong' and that means the practice abandoned. Anybody who can't follow a list that is in point form shouldn't be part of the admin team. Client would be a better term just at quick glance, but what would a bottom feeder like me know?
 

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I almost forgot... There is another Law of War that states: 'Bringing a knife to a gun fight is a bad idea'
Please don't come out West where accidents still do happen. Why do you think Dodge was called Dodge? Some knife-fighter facing a gunfighter did something called ' a dodge', in fact he did it 6 times in a row, what do you think happened when the club met the knife? ( a machete is the term used today) Ducking is allowed in any country and if you miss for any reason until you are out of ammo well mercy might not be the first thing you get.
Another saying you don't get is, 'You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.' That just means that person should not be allowed even small animals let alone be in charge of any people if he cant figure out that you lead the horse to the water, and left unsaid is that you wait until the horse is thirsty and then it takes a drink. Anybody doing that probably knows when to show up at the watering hole (as they don't come to you when you call them) so the wait is on the short side of time, just sayin this for the horse's sake, you drag it there with all 4 hoofs digging in and then if he isn't full in 30 seconds it is the horses fault if he dies of thirst, you tried your best bust the animal wouldn't listen. Something along that line?
 

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I am out West.. Have been for quite a spell now.

The bare bones of this issue comes down to this... There is a massive discord between 2 groups/cultures/nations, etc that has gotten to the point that violence has ensued. In this case, one party is far weaker, militarily and is taking the path of continued willingness for more violence.

You tell me what the most likely outcome is probable in the above scenario... All of the marketing, PR and related stunts will only result in more loss of life.

With this in mind, getting down to brass tacks, does it still make sense to keep trying to jam a square peg into a round hole?
 

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Hollering genocide and racism every time an alternate perspective is offered goes no where in exploring alternate opinion
True, so what should be included and excluded in the Treaty that Gaza should sign with Israel so they can sleep at night? You know what I will base my arguments on so that will save oodles of time. I'll even start. The legal avenue left open to the ones who signed the Treaty was the Canadian Courts, that has not always appeared fair, can the ICC hear the complaints from Gaza rather than the Israeli Courts as they are the writers of the Treaty Gaza is under. Israel would want the same authority as they had over the Cast Lead investigation. This time video journals are the witness, the only way the dead can speak from the grave. The first time also and names are applied to pictures rather than numbers which is what Colpy and the usual suspects would rather it be, after all that is all it took to swing things at the end of WWII.
 

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True, so what should be included and excluded in the Treaty that Gaza should sign with Israel so they can sleep at night?

That, I can not tell you... But what I can say with absolute certainty is that this situation needs to be done at the bargaining table and not with violence.

As more time goes forward with increased violence, I believe it's fair to say that Gaza and Palestine will be the battle ground. If that is the case, the future loss of life, let alone the misery, will be a multiple of what it is today.
 

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I am out West.. Have been for quite a spell now.
I'm obviously outclassed.

You are aware that backing up opinions is looked on as a good thing right? I'll refrain from any cattle buying tips other than to say it has to do with the way a pantleg is tucked into the cowboy boot.

Out west has so many possibilities, go north until there are no more fences and going off-road is best done during a frosty winter and then it is a blast. A little closer to people. Cow-town is nice and I might have to finish my court cases there if my old landlord doesn't come up with a decent offer. Barring that a lot of people from Calgary head into the 'back-country' on the weekends. You have to be north of Jasper before you really hit open country and then you are looking at 800sqmi of it and only a bit is 'protected' so quads are the norm. Do it right when the weekend is over the people are back in Calgary and you are still 'camping' and at your 'hut' you broadband into worked setting up things for the next weekend and the 'campers' wanting a 'hut' and all they have is a cooler and a quad and a credit-card and a signed waiver excluding you from being liable for any 'injuries'. If I can come up with plans like that for some swampland in Gaza and Israel it should be the most visited tourism sire on the planet. You can't tell me have been trying and that they are also 'somewhat intelligent'. If Gaza is a distraction or part of a bigger picture then what is it. If the world can't sell Gaza weapons how about a safety pod that bounces around when in the proximity of some HE going off? What law would prevent that?

. . . and scalawags.
Hey, I resemble that remark.
 

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I'm obviously outclassed.

You are aware that backing up opinions is looked on as a good thing right? I'll refrain from any cattle buying tips other than to say it has to do with the way a pantleg is tucked into the cowboy boot.

Out west has so many possibilities, go north until there are no more fences and going off-road is best done during a frosty winter and then it is a blast. A little closer to people. Cow-town is nice and I might have to finish my court cases there if my old landlord doesn't come up with a decent offer. Barring that a lot of people from Calgary head into the 'back-country' on the weekends. You have to be north of Jasper before you really hit open country and then you are looking at 800sqmi of it and only a bit is 'protected' so quads are the norm. Do it right when the weekend is over the people are back in Calgary and you are still 'camping' and at your 'hut' you broadband into worked setting up things for the next weekend and the 'campers' wanting a 'hut' and all they have is a cooler and a quad and a credit-card and a signed waiver excluding you from being liable for any 'injuries'. If I can come up with plans like that for some swampland in Gaza and Israel it should be the most visited tourism sire on the planet. You can't tell me have been trying and that they are also 'somewhat intelligent'. If Gaza is a distraction or part of a bigger picture then what is it. If the world can't sell Gaza weapons how about a safety pod that bounces around when in the proximity of some HE going off? What law would prevent that?


Hey, I resemble that remark.

I am based in Calgary.. Spend a good amount of time up in the mountains... I am a huge fan of wandering through the back roads. If you ever get a chance while you're in the YYC area, head out Cochrane direction on HWY 1A (Crowchild Tr in town becomes the 1A).. You'll pass through Cochrane and come to a sign indicating the 'Forestry Trunk Road'... Head North on that road - you will not regret it. Basically you can drive that road all the way to Nordegg if you chose.

Eventually you can take one of the cross roads back to Red Deer

You mentioned Jasper, next time you head that direction I give you some thoughts on a spot North of Edson.. Another dirt-road gem
 

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the conversation that started out as "why do canadians care?" ... forgive me for zoning out of that one.



I know you're a bit dense, but Israel has been deliberately targeting civilians, which is indeed a war crime. This is nothing new from Israel.
I've already stated I don't support Hamas a couple times now, you need to stop glossing over threads before you post you already don't have a reputation for being very bright as it is.

Just...wow.
 

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That, I can not tell you... But what I can say with absolute certainty is that this situation needs to be done at the bargaining table and not with violence.
Well, we certainly don't have to wait for the UN or Democracy to enter the picture. We'll get the one with the stats, Colpy, to get some baselines and the rest should fall into place. Israel, current population split between Jews and Arabs, add to Arab numbers the ones called refugees in they they were residents if 'Israel in 1947'. Gaza and the West Bank would lose some members so there would be 3 Provinces and one national Govt. Each based on majority of people in the location. How about we start there? Jews would have protection from persecution and they would lose the Govt to the majority, Arabs. OPEC is basically their cousins so money is not an issue and if they can advance it as a loan and the countries that voted to take away the land are handed a bill by the ICC they can recover the money, only to hand it over to Syria for trying to overthrow them. All of that is totally fair and legal and not very hard to implement so they should have been able to come up with that idea on their own and do it with about 3 headlines covering the whole affair.

As more time goes forward with increased violence, I believe it's fair to say that Gaza and Palestine will be the battle ground. If that is the case, the future loss of life, let alone the misery, will be a multiple of what it is today.
If Israel can't take over a little strip of land in 70 years she shouldn't be trying to run the world. Seriously, take up religious studies and let us Gentiles drive the bus off the end of the cliff. We might surprise the Jews as the tower of Babel was a Gentile project.

In the 'West' when we have been 'hurt' we take the other person to court and the court tries to right a wrong and if that is not possible they will attach a $$ figure to it and that is offered as compensation and accepted or not that is the end of the matter.
 

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I am based in Calgary.. Spend a good amount of time up in the mountains... I am a huge fan of wandering through the back roads. If you ever get a chance while you're in the YYC area, head out Cochrane direction on HWY 1A (Crowchild Tr in town becomes the 1A).. You'll pass through Cochrane and come to a sign indicating the 'Forestry Trunk Road'... Head North
I was at the other end of it where it comes out at Goodwin. Back up to the first river valley and go half that far again and turn right. (please tell me you are not actually backing up) and go until yo meet the first big river. That is the Big Smoky and from where you turned left if you had gone north to the same river that is the 'swamp' area. Jump across the Smoky at Lignite Creek and the north bank is 1 mile deep and you follow that for 3 miles to the west and that would be where you rent out lots for trailers that are brought in over some swamp in the winter and to use it you would quad from GP or drive across the Wapiti and leave your ride there and quad from the railway tracks.
The roads built over the swamp have the moss removed so when it thaws there would be a natural route for skidoos and river boats if the trailer was on one of the ridges that rises out of the swamp. The area to the south of the Smoky is basically the same and is about 30swmi and has areas of jack-pine and sand where it is not clay ridges or muskeg. (3ft of moss floating on clear water that can be 30 ft deep or 3ft, either way a maze built for small water jets would make for a fun afternoon and the distances means finding a new campsite is pretty easy)
50km south from GP on HWay 40 would put you right in the middle and it could use a gas station that ran unattended on debit cards, Once there you should be able to develop a parking spot for people wanting to 'explore' and tenting and trailer spots would be a natural development. From there you could go 40 miles to get to a specific attraction like the valley with 40 zip-lines to a climbing wall that has a pool of water as a safety net. If you go that far might as well throw in a wrecker for quads that gets parts as far away as Manitoba.
That bar in Robb (FTR south of Hinton) is the strangest place I have ever been to. Only the north end has a connection to Secondary666 and for the life of me I can't understand why they don't exploit that aspect. Instead of whining that the 'official signs' get stolen sell some roll up copies at the General Store (I swear to God that is what it is called, lol) Have board ones sold by kids at the stop sign 153 ft from the 'official sign'. How hard is it to add 'Nice place to be from, . . .' or 'Nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there, . . . .'
True story, a drinking friend and I used to canoe before people made guns and such somewhat unsafe. We came around a corner and found two guys from Kentucky there. Long story short, we milked the 'deliverance' theme for all it could be and there are two 'good old boys in Kentucky' that will never want to hear the name Wapiti River ever again. If you want the whole 15 minute meeting I'll PM it to you.

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Want to bet his buddy in the photo joins an anti war groups ASAP

Back parking lot at 2AM, loud noise. Let's put her in a house that gets tapped for bombing and see if that sounds the same. The obligatory warning was give so the main facility was thought to be empty so it was bombed according to the schedule in the plan. That might be the case lacking any smoke trails leaving said back parking lot.

Another dirt-road gem
My day begins at signs that say, 'Road ends here.' (back in the day, lol) Back then finding solid birch plot at thigh diameter was a curse, now it is about $10 for 4 sticks.
An electric kayak that could reach planning speed would be a blast. For the lazy family buy a fake old train and rent out spots use that 100km of track as a cruise that takes up the whole weekend and over 18 inclined. The family version are all weather roads and 3 hour tours.
I think we have about reached our limit before being a distraction. Get Googleearth and I could send you a ton locations that fit the proposed site for a business or recreation. Where somebody fresh out of Calgary can motor around with his golfcart and clubs and cooler and buddies and put in 100km during the day and be able to come back a few times and take a whole different route. Fire is the common enemy so winter has an attraction right there. FTR and west until you are at Nose Mountain, all those ridges are heavily logged so HD roads already exist and access to any viewpoint lot is going to be easy. Metal bins are dirt cheap and they are fire and bear proof and easy to erect and take down