Horror Day of Israeli Attacks:

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Hamas is playing this all wrong.
Hamas can't get to the ICC because friends of Israel stop that action from happening.
Hamas has the right to resist unlawful occupation.
Hamas can't get to the ICC because friends of Israel stop that action from happening.

Even without books they know that is because their case is more or less a slam dunk one.
 

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Speaking to Israel’s Army Radio, Housing and Construction Minister Uri Ariel criticized Obama telling Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that there should be an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
“Leave us alone,” Ariel told Army Radio, directing his words at Obama. “Go focus on Syria.

Israeli Official To Obama: ‘Leave Us Alone’ « CBS DC

Leave us alone! But continue giving us hundreds of millions of dollars of course.
 

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I'm not going to defend Hamas, a lot of what they do is wrong and constitutes war crimes but when you're an oppressed nation they will fight back by whatever means for their own survival.

To quote Dr Phil: "And how's that been workin' for ya?"

Hamas must renounce violence.

How many times do we have to watch Pee Wee Herman climb into the ring with Mike Tyson? You just want to yell "Stay down FFS"
 

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Sugar, oxyclean, paper, glue kitty litter, aluminum powder, pieces of glass, a nail and a primer cap = a Hamas rocket.

If we live in a lawless neighbourhood, and your family insists on shooting at my house with zip guns and muzzleloaders, do not be surprised when I reply with my M14.
 

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they won't passively sit by as they're being oppressed, sorry.


No it doesn't seem so. Too bad. Non-violence is the best approach when faced with an injustice against an overwhelmingly superior adversary. Just ask Ghandi. Or Martin Luther King. Well, I guess you can't since they were both murdered, but you get my drift.
 

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NSFW.



Palestine does not want to be under the occupation of Israel.

Gaza is NOT under Israeli occupation. In 2005, Israel abandoned Gaza. The dismantled ALL Jewish settlements in Gaza, and forced the settlers out. They left behind 3,000 greenhouses built by the settlers.

The point was to see if the Palestinians could be coaxed into peace.

The Israelis even forcibly dismantled five Jewish settlements in the West Bank at the same time. They let it be known that if these actions calmed the waters, so to speak, the West Bank would be unilaterally abandoned as well. It was Sharon's Big Gamble.

It failed. The Palestinians immediately destroyed the greenhouses left behind.

The Palestinians would not accept a de facto country and peace. Israelis became convinced they have NO ONE to negotiate peace with.

The Palestinians chose genocidal Hamas and war.

Now they reap the whirlwind.
 

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Palestinians want peace and for Israel to recognize them as a sovereign state. Illegal blockades, settlements and walls are acts of war and oppression in why they chose to fight Israel back.
 

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Nazi Germany was occupying countries and throwing Jews in the ovens of those occupied countries as well as their own. Like Nazi Germany, Israel is the occupying country and instead of ovens for the Palestinians they have bombs, white phosphorus, flechette shells, cancer causing DIME bombs, even children are not spared.
You will NOT try and make Israel the victim.



Gaza has always been under occupation.


The extermination of the Jews in Europe was an mechanized, industrialized all-out effort to destroy a particular segment of the population down to the last soul.

The Jewish population in Europe declined by 2/3, from 9 to 3 million, in about 4 years.

The Palestinian population QUADRUPLED betweem 1970 and 2010, from 1 million to 4 million.

Under Israeli "occupation", the life expectancy at birth for Palestinians rose above that in Jordan and Egypt.

IMMEDIATELY after the 1967 war, the number of deaths in the Palestinian territories per year crashed.

This is only genocide in some Bizarro world.

Israel is NOT a victim, only because she absolutely refuses to be so.

Jew hater.
 
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The only thing offensive is your blatant disregard for Palestinian lives.
Israel isn't the victim and you're not going to portray them as such.
 

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Thank God for Reagan's Iron Dome.
Reagan got shot, did he get his money's worth?

Even if you think they aren't now you can't deny that were at one point, which is what Hamas was born out of .
Didn't Hamas act like the Red Cross in the 20 year occupation? When Arafat's rag-tag tunnel rats finally sold out Hamas was propelled into the role of being the new Govt. You won't find a 'charter' before that event happened. When you have records of the abuses of a Military Occupation because you are the rescue workers then the charter is going to reflect having those tasks to do at all.

Give Hamas 3 sq mi offshore for an international port and the wall can be sealed off and nobody will even look in that direction at any time other than school.
Pretty sure tracking abilities could follow all the batteries that enter the country to ensure they are used for respected purposes. Moves that the locals would welcome as their personal property can be left anywhere and it will still be there as if taken you can track it down. If Isreal is unhappy about Hamas arresting troublemakers then give them the tools to do it and the locals hold the court. Today Hamas was to hold the hands of the prisoners when moving them and in groups they create a tunnel and they are run down the streets by design of somebody in Israel (or beyond)

Except they are not occupied.........
Tell that to the last crew that tried to weigh anchor in Gaza City.

And Indians stay on the Rez out of choice. HFCHFSDYHTBIOTOBLY Wow, I feel much better now.

I think the lesson about 'change' has been lost on the Brits once again.

Papers please!!
Israeli Checkpoints: Assaulting International Observers and Abusing Palestinians in Hebron - YouTube