Homeless, the invisible and forgotten population..

Danbones

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We had a few who made their homes in the bush and went through winter "camping"...when we had a couple mild seasons...Not the last two winters though.

WE do have a few alkies and crack heads, that would rather be drunk, or high on crack, then have a home - That's the dope the government sells though eh?

Key Figures In CIA-Crack Cocaine Scandal Begin To Come Forward

LOS ANGELES -- With the public in the U.S. and Latin America becoming increasingly skeptical of the war on drugs, key figures in a scandal that once rocked the Central Intelligence Agency are coming forward to tell their stories in a new documentary and in a series of interviews with The Huffington Post.

More than 18 years have passed since Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Gary Webb stunned the world with his “Dark Alliance” newspaper series investigating the connections between the CIA, a crack cocaine explosion in the predominantly African-American neighborhoods of South Los Angeles, and the Nicaraguan Contra fighters -- scandalous implications that outraged LA’s black community, severely damaged the intelligence agency's reputation and launched a number of federal investigations.

It did not end well for Webb, however. Major media, led by The New York Times, Washington Post and Los Angeles Times, worked to discredit his story. Under intense pressure, Webb's top editor abandoned him. Webb was drummed out of journalism. One LA Times reporter recently apologized for his leading role in the assault on Webb, but it came too late. Webb died in 2004 from an apparent suicide.."
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/gary-webb-dark-alliance_n_5961748

Oh look:Webb arkencided, and the Trump hating WAPOO that the CIA paid Bezos (amazon) to own.

Yup, the addictive substances the government sells like booze, smokes, gambling tickets, and now multiple kinds of dope too, which many addicts would rather do then eat, or pay rent, or even child support...
..and the GOVERNMENT IS THE DEALER

Education again and a fine upbringing but still with Walters mental disorder idea. The educated homeless have obviously been ripped off.
So there could be some hidden agenda, like money.

Walter's mistake..the problem is how its dealt with by a very mistaken system which walter loves
but government is the biggest killer in history...look it up.
;)

The doctors ARE generally wrong in practice, that's been proven, even if some
( especially the doctors) are a little late to get the news.
 
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Dixie Cup

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There used to be (I don't know if he's till around) a guy that chose to live outdoors winter and summer. Many efforts were made to get him to live in an apartment etc., and he was adamant that he was just fine. He was also quite well off and not impoverished in any way. Did he have mental health issues? That I couldn't say and never did learn but living outdoors was his choice.


So while there likely aren't many who would actually choose to live like that, there are some who do.


There are those who refuse to go to shelters because what little they have is often stolen by others so they don't feel safe. It's an ongoing issue and I really don't know that we will ever resolve it fully. That doesn't mean, however, that we give up trying.


Low income housing is an issue all over this country and unless the government is willing to step up to the plate, private companies certainly won't because there isn't any profit involved to be able to even upkeep the places. Government certainly isn't willing to reinvest after they've built anything so why should private companies foot the bill? So it's a vicious circle.


JMHO
 

Danbones

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We have an excellent NOW FUNDED shelter here in my town.
Trouble is, they now have a capacity limit due to politics, and so now we still have homeless people here with no place to be, where as before, we could squeeze them in somehow.

As to choice. I do allow a room on the worst nights, if someone I know who is trying and still falling through the cracks-[sic], is homeless, and that room is often occupied.

But it's like everything else in life: You can bitch about the facts you don't like, and do nothing about the problem except whine, or you can IGNORE those types, and do something.

IF YOU AREN'T PART OF THE SOLUTION...YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM!
It's your karma.
 
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Jinentonix

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If we knew how to fix this problem we would fix it. The best we can do is to mitigate it somewhat. We make sure there are shelters open on freezing nights.
If you want to mitigate it then you have to spend money on making sure there's sufficient mental health care and services. That is the only way. Sadly, many "progressive" govts today seem to be promoting sociopathy instead of actually dealing with mental illness.
 

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If you want to mitigate it then you have to spend money on making sure there's sufficient mental health care and services. That is the only way. Sadly, many "progressive" govts today seem to be promoting sociopathy instead of actually dealing with mental illness.
No it is much easier to give them a monthly stipend than to house them .
 

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Most homeless are white males. Talk about white supremacy.

Perhaps true, but let's not fall into the same trap as the feminists. We should not try to help homeless white males only just because they are the largest group. We should just try to help all homeless persons regardless of race or sex.
 

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Perhaps true, but let's not fall into the same trap as the feminists. We should not try to help homeless white males only just because they are the largest group. We should just try to help all homeless persons regardless of race or sex.

That’s not how a socialist communist government works. White men as a group need to suffer for their social sins
 

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That’s not how a socialist communist government works. White men as a group need to suffer for their social sins

If we have to be a minority to gain any modicum of respect, then let's make ourselves minorities. Learn a minority language and refuse to speak English. That should tick off a few feminists wanting to womansplain to us in English ;)
 

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If we have to be a minority to gain any modicum of respect, then let's make ourselves minorities. Learn a minority language and refuse to speak English. That should tick off a few feminists wanting to womansplain to us in English ;)

Im just going to vote for Conservatives.
 

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Feral people don't want to live indoors.

Fentanyl is doing a great job of easing the costs
This drug problem is going to costs us billions of dollars and an immeasurable amount of human misery by the time its run its course.
 

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This drug problem is going to costs us billions of dollars and an immeasurable amount of human misery by the time its run its course.
Press them into the navy . The British did and built an empire where the sun never set .
 

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If you want to mitigate it then you have to spend money on making sure there's sufficient mental health care and services. That is the only way. Sadly, many "progressive" govts today seem to be promoting sociopathy instead of actually dealing with mental illness.
I totally agree with this. In fact I would go so far as to say we are using the police as our front line mental health workers and they are hard put to do the job.
 

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synthetic drugs are a whole new ball game. Canada didn't get slammed with the crack epidemic like the states did but we are getting the synthetic drug epidemic and it's going to get worse and worse.

meanwhile time and money are wasted arguing over weed.
 

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synthetic drugs are a whole new ball game. Canada didn't get slammed with the crack epidemic like the states did but we are getting the synthetic drug epidemic and it's going to get worse and worse.

meanwhile time and money are wasted arguing over weed.

Civil service Hogs will argue over ANYTHING- EXCEPT the damage their greed is doing to Canada- consider:

Here is an article that tries to persuade Cdns that they are being well served by the hordes of poverty pimps that infest Toronto Silly Hall! With some comments of my own in brackets):

Impact of social workers 'not well understood'

JOAN MACKENZIE DAVIES, Special to the Toronto Sun. First posted: Monday, August 07, 2017 12:00 PM EDT

The reality is that the impact of social workers is not well understood. As the executive director of the Ontario Association of Social Workers (OASW) that represents 5,200 professionals in the province, this poses a significant challenge to both the profession and the public.

(The sad reality for most Cdns is that they DO SEE CLEARLY just how useful social workers really are! Pious nonsense spouted by a person who makes a fine living supporting the over paid Hogs will not alter that Cdn view!)

Many Ontarians struggling with real issues such as addictions, mental health conditions or caring for a loved one, and who could benefit from the profession’s unique training and skills, never seek services due to limited or inaccurate information about social workers.

(Some Cdns feel that safe injection sites are actually making the addiction problem WORSE by reducing the risk of being a hard core addict! Addiction is not just based on chemical dependency, there is also a psychological compulsion and one should ask if that compulsion would be reduced if you knew your odds of dying were increasing exponentially with each hit? But if you have those costly safe injection sites close at hand, then you can take comfort knowing you can still have your fun secure in the knowledge there is help close by to bring you back from any disaster! We have all heard talk about scaring addicts straight and staring death in the face is a real persuader pushing towards the straight life for some! And many Cdns figure that our scarce health dollars should be spent on people who have real illnesses and not on people who are going out of their way to risk their health with dangerous drugs- its not a secret that heroin and crack and Fentanyl are deadly so why get started on it-unless you want to die?)

Sensational headlines such as “Social Workers failing Toronto’s homeless,” which recently accompanied a story in the Toronto Sun, subsequently edited to read, “Welfare Workers failing Toronto’s homeless” do not help and reinforce mis-perceptions about the profession.

(How sad that some poverty pimps wish to pretend that welfare recipients are always innocent! What of child killer Marcia Dooley who was under investigation for welfare fraud when she was arrested for killing stepson Randal? What of the wife of Somali warlord Mohamed Farrah Aideed who sent his most treasured wife- as a Muslim he has several- off to live in Canada on Our welfare- along with 10-12 kids- all of them belonging to hubby Mohamed and sired on those multiple wives? And what of his wife repeatedly flying BACK to Somalis to take part in various GOVT sponsored activities while poverty pimps tell us it is none of our business what sort of relationship she has with her hubby?)

(What of the woman with Downs Syndrome who has just enough maturity ( about 12 years age development) to enjoy sex and is also mature enough to enjoy drugs and alcohol but not enough maturity to practice safe sex and avoid repeated pregnancies and repeated STD infections- with SOCIETY left holding the bag for the damaged children she regularly gives birth to? What of the nice family of 3 that I recently met- mom is an ex alcoholic who manages to stay on the wagon, teen son is the reliable one in the family and father is a methadone recipient who makes the family welfare money stretch MUCH FURTHER by stealing anything not nailed down- and if he can pry it up then it ain`t nailed down now is it!)

(What of the woman exposed in Pickering a while back- living very cheaply in a farmhouse rented for about $200.00 per month on the Pickering Airport lands and supplementing her welfare by raising chickens and ducks on the rural property and selling them and eggs under the table and also making a nice little bit of pocket change cleaning houses under the table as well?)

(What of the immigrant Mom from the Carribean documented some years back by Toronto Red Star reporters- the woman lived on welfare with her 3 young kids- all Cdn born so LIE-berals insist we cannot send the `family` back to the crap island she came from- and with all the kids sired from different fathers and she passes her time with drugs and a part time job as a prostitute while the kids-roughly 9 months, 2 years and 3 years in age stay home with tv? The poverty pimps repeatedly visit the “affordable housing” apt to try to teach the woman that letting a baby go for hours at a time without any food is a bad idea. Further, poverty pimps have failed to teach the woman that the baby needs its diapers changed fairly often or it will develop MORE nasty rashes that need medical treatment. They also failed to convince the woman that food needs to be refrigerated or it will sicken the kids when its fed to them- and its especially bad if she puts the food onto plates already filthy with rotting food- If she bothers to feed them! The woman likes cats and has several and its too bad that poverty pimps cannot teach the woman that letting a 9 month old baby play with cat sh+t is not a good idea!)

(The wait for not so affordable housing was reaching the TWENTY YEAR POINT BEFORE those hordes of illegal refugees started flooding in after Our idiot Boy Justin threw out the invite! God only knows what the wait will be in a year- certainly the wait time will be LONGER that some have to live!)

On the brighter side, much can, and is, being done to help close this “information” gap. This past March, during Social Work Week, we highlighted stories of how Ontarians, from all segments of society, are receiving much needed help from social workers – some in private practice as therapy providers and many others working in a wide range of settings such as hospitals, schools, corrections, and other vital institutions.

(That`s nice- but LIE-berals are apparently focused ONLY on CLOSING that information gap by making it into a HATE CRIME to be critical of their many failed policies!)

Ontario is facing a public health crisis on many fronts: addictions, mental health, increased demands on hospital beds with an aging population, among them. Cost-effective solutions are needed now more than ever. The media and members of the public both have an important role to play in not only identifying where the system is failing, but also in sharing successes and promising solutions. For example, two large GTA hospitals recently placed social workers in emergency departments during peak hours as part of a three-month pilot project with the goal of helping individuals with non-urgent care needs, with a focus on seniors.

(Yes, its true, we need more aid to sick, aged, mentally challenged Cdns- so WHY are we allowing LIE-berals to dig us so deeply into debt as they BUY the votes they need to cling to power so they can spend years exploring exotic and never before considered depths of DEBT with Hog allies while REAL problems are ignored? LIE-berals believe that any problem that concerns them can be resolved by burying it DEEPLY in cash! The problem is all the troubles that concern LIE-berals revolve around the need of LIE-beral friends for MORE GRAVY! Hogs have left NO gravy for the rest of us!)

By addressing the non-medical needs of these complex care patients and connecting them to community resources, social workers helped reduce admissions and delivered a savings of $1.4 million when costs were annualized over a year.

(Poverty Pimps are being hypocritical in linking aged people with Alzheimer Disease to “self medicated” drug addicts! As if both were equally innocent!)

There is also room for clarity regarding the qualifications and training of social workers. To be called a “social worker” or “registered social worker” in Ontario, individuals must hold a Bachelor’s, Master’s or PhD in social work and be registered with the Ontario College of Social Workers and Social Service Workers (OCSWSSW). These are protected titles under provincial legislation since passage of the Social Work and Social Service Work Act, 1998. A register on OCSWSSW’s website lists the names of individuals who meet the criteria to use these titles.

(Thats nice- a powerful union holds control of and access to jobs and holds the profession HOSTAGE! Play THEIR GAME and SUPPORT THEIR PROPAGANDA or they will not certify you! And some Cdns find it hard to understand why U of T professors such as Jordan Peterson speak of “corrupted disciplines!)

The media must continue to look at public health issues through a critical lens. However, it can play an important role as well in showcasing cost-effective solutions, such as the emergency departments pilots that address gaps in service delivery, better serve the public and save taxpayers’ dollars.

(Shall we ask how the dietary supplement that used to be offered to welfare recipients with REAL health problems was deliberately abused? Shall we ask if the methadone scandal of a few years back- in which addicts scored multiple doses of the drug at various dishonest clinics has been resolved? Shall we ask if welfare recipients are still allowed to “lose” their rent money and then aks for MORE while offering some crap excuse that would not wash in the real world? Shall we ask what new safeguards have been put into place to ensure that welfare cheats like child killer Marcia Dooley will not be able to game the system in future?)

Secondarily, such editorials would serve to build public confidence in seeking help from trained professionals such as social workers for problems they are facing.

(My personal problem is over taxation, inadequate old age pension and debt- how will social worker Hogs help me with that? Except make matters WORSE with their Hog union GREED!)

Together, we can change the narrative and the outcome for many Ontarians in need. As a collective, we need to continue identifying gaps in the system and where professionals are, in fact, “failing.” It is equally important to recognize the work being done to create new and innovative solutions for individuals, while, at the same time, improving access to our health care and social services delivery systems overall.

- Joan MacKenzie Davies, MSW, RSW, is the executive director of the Ontario Association of Social Workers

(And apparently she is also completely UNAWARE of how angry Cdns are at being treated as the sucker nation of the world!)