Heat wave smashes records around the world — a look at the sizzling temperatures

JLM

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I think it's time we did start considering that with 7 billion people on the planet there is a slight possibility that the population might be contributing to a rise in temperature. Put 7 people in a room and the temperature rises.
 

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Yeah I'm such a bad teacher that I posted a comment you completely failed to understand. Ever heard of sarcasm? Don't worry I had lots of students like you - those who actually resisted being educated.




Because it grows there? Try to ask a more intelligent question next time if you are capable of it.
Why does it grow there ? Come now it is not that hard of a question .
 

petros

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Why couldn't it be?

We have no impact on geomagnetics or the sun.

Why does it grow there ? Come now it is not that hard of a question .
Because boreal spruce and feather moss work together ensure the fires spread far and wide in order to renew the forest. They basically commit suicide.

In northern Saskatchewan, the scruffy black spruce’s best friends are the feather mosses that carpet the ground at the base of its trunk. The moss keeps the tree’s roots cool and damp while the spruce provides essential shade and keeps the ground free of messy leaves that might interfere with the moss’s growth.

Things heat up when it’s time to reproduce. When there is a fire, the dry moss helps it spread along the forest floor and right up to the tree canopy where the heat melts the waxy coating of the cones at the top. Wildfire allows the cones to release thousands of seeds on the forest floor guaranteeing a new generation. “They are like the phoenix that rises from the ashes,” says biologist Jill Johnstone
Thanks to fire fighting and aged weak trees they can't or even possibly won't produce their own rain.

Trees can alter the weather.

Even in the boreal forest, summer gets hot. Trees can't move but they have figured out a way to create their own air conditioning. Atmospheric physicist Joel Thorton went to Finland to study Scots pine trees. They release chemical compounds called terpenes, which float into the air in large quantities. We recognize these terpenes as that ‘fresh cut pine’ scent, but their effects are much more influential than a scented breeze.

As the molecules float up towards the sky, they collect other molecules like ozone on the way. Once big enough, water vapour condenses on these particles, and clouds are born. “Trees create the weather they want - and the clouds they seed can influence the weather across the entire northern hemisphere.
 

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This thread could use a group hug...
 

petros

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Why do the scientists find this so difficult to understand? Idiots!

There are plenty in the geomagnetic/sun spot camp but how do you tax people to fund industry to go with abundant, dirt cheap natural gas and drastically cut grid maintenance costs when you can't blame it on them and guilt them out of their money?

If they cranked up GST, people would scream bloody murder.
 

petros

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Recent studies have shown that, in addition to the role of solar variability, past climate changes may have been connected with variations in the Earth’s magnetic field elements at various timescales. An analysis of variations in geomagnetic field elements, such as field intensity, reversals, and excursions, allowed us to establish a link between climate changes at various timescales over the last millennia. Of particular interest are sharp changes in the geomagnetic field intensity and short reversals of the magnetic poles (excursions). The beginning and termination of the examined geomagnetic excursions can be attributed to periods of climate change. In this study, we analyzed the possible link between short-term geomagnetic variability (jerks) and climate change, as well as the accelerated drift of the north magnetic pole and surface temperature variations.

The results do not rule out the possibility that geomagnetic field variations which modulate the cosmic ray flux could have played a major role in climate change in addition to previously induced by solar radiation.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1134/S0016793212080063

Résumé:
Understanding climate change is an active topic of research. Much of the observed increase in global surface temperature over the past 150 years occurred prior to the 1940s and after the 1980s. The main causes invoked are solar variability, changes in atmospheric greenhouse gas content or sulfur due to natural or anthropogenic action, or internal variability of the coupled ocean-atmosphere system. Magnetism has seldom been invoked, and evidence for connections between climate and magnetic field variations have received little attention. We review evidence for correlations which could suggest such (causal or non-causal) connections at various time scales (recent secular variation similar to 10-100 yr, historical and archcomagnetic change similar to 100-5000 yr, and excursions and reversals similar to 101-10, yr), and attempt to suggest mechanisms. Evidence for correlations, which invoke Milankovic forcing in the core, either directly or through changes in ice distribution and moments of inertia of the Earth, is still tenuous. Correlation between decadal changes in amplitude of geomagnetic variations of external origin, solar irradiance and global temperature is stronger. It suggests that solar irradiance could have been a major forcing function of climate until the mid-1980s, when "anomalous" warming becomes apparent. The most intriguing feature may be the recently proposed archeomagnetic jerks, i.e. fairly abrupt (similar to 100 yr long) geomagnetic field variations found at irregular intervals over the past few millennia, using the archeological record from Europe to the Middle East. These seem to correlate with significant climatic events in the eastern North Atlantic region. A proposed mechanism involves variations in the geometry of the geomagnetic field (f.i. tilt of the dipole to lower latitudes), resulting in enhanced cosmic-ray induced nucleation of clouds. No forcing factor, be it changes in CO2 concentration in the atmosphere or changes in cosmic ray flux modulated by solar activity and geomagnetism, or possibly other factors, can at present be neglected or shown to be the overwhelming single driver of climate change in past centuries. Intensive data acquisition is required to further probe indications that the Earth's and Sun's magnetic fields may have significant bearing on climate change at certain time scales. (c) 2006 Elsevier B.V. All rights reserved.

Are there connections between the Earth's magnetic field and climate? | INSTITUT DE PHYSIQUE DU GLOBE DE PARIS
 

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No. Not at all. Shake off the brainwashing.

Annual global temperature is 1C. Just a **** hair above freezing.
Where the heck did you get those figures??

For example, the average annual temperature for the globe between 1951 and 1980 was around 57.2 degrees Fahrenheit (14 degrees Celsius). In 2015, the hottest year on record, the temperature was about 1.8 degrees F (1 degree C)_warmer than the 1951–1980 base period. That calculation comes from NASA and NOAA.

Many science entities do it slightly different;y but the results are no more than slightly different. But hey the difference from the article you are citing was publishedin 2012. It seems the world has changed greatly in 6 years!!
 
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Where the heck did you get those figures??

For example, the average annual temperature for the globe between 1951 and 1980 was around 57.2 degrees Fahrenheit (14 degrees Celsius). In 2015, the hottest year on record, the temperature was about 1.8 degrees F (1 degree C)_warmer than the 1951–1980 base period. That calculation comes from NASA and NOAA.

Many science entities do it slightly different;y but the results are no more than slightly different. But hey the difference from the article you are citing was publishedin 2012. It seems the world has changed greatly in 6 years!!

He gets those figures by keeping temperature records just outside of his house in Saskatchewan.
 

petros

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Where the heck did you get those figures??

For example, the average annual temperature for the globe between 1951 and 1980 was around 57.2 degrees Fahrenheit (14 degrees Celsius). In 2015, the hottest year on record, the temperature was about 1.8 degrees F (1 degree C)_warmer than the 1951–1980 base period. That calculation comes from NASA and NOAA.

Many science entities do it slightly different;y but the results are no more than slightly different. But hey the difference from the article you are citing was publishedin 2012. It seems the world has changed greatly in 6 years!!
Global Temperature
LATEST ANNUAL AVERAGE ANOMALY: 2017
0.9 °C

https://climate.nasa.gov/vital-signs/global-temperature/
 

bluebyrd35

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The latest Annual Anomaly 2017

You know the neat little graph they posted on that site does a really great job of showing how much warmer the world is becoming. Darn hard to ignore!


TIME SERIES: 1884 TO 2017 I recommend everyone go to that site and do the time chart for themselves,

Data source: NASA/GISS
Credit: NASA Scientific Visualization Studio
1884
Time Series: 1884 to 2017, image#0
Time Series: 1884 to 2017 key
1884
 

petros

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What is missing from this line "Annual global temperature is 1C. Just a **** hair above freezing" that is in your assertions?