Have you investigated Gnostic Christianity?
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No I cannot as Christianity is an immoral divisive religion while Gnostic Christians are all into rapprochement of all peoples and the seeking of the beat moral way to live.
Christians love to hate all (the others), while Gnostic Christians try to love all peoples. That would include women and gays that Christians have turned into second class citizens.
Most researchers are now thinking that Gnostic Christianity was the mother religion and Christianity the bastard child. They believe so because Gnostic are Universalists and the original meaning of Catholic means universal and the now Christian, Catholic and Islamic religions are anything but universal. They have a heaven and hell for the defects but our Gnostic creator does not create defective people and all end in heaven.
Even practicing gays and all those second class women.
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DL
Because of their beauty and desirability of heart as well as body, yes.
That O P was written in a certain way and does not relate here. If you have a question ask it over there.
You pulled one line while the whole thing must be read to see the tongue in cheek way it was written.
Yours is not an honest deflection.
Go pull something out of it that shows any Gnostic Christian discrimination of women. I will wait forever because you will not find anything.
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DL
Cheep childish garbage.
Go read the O P in question and stop backstabbing. That is worse than lying about me.
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DL
I understand the situation. I fail to see the problem.
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DL
Sexual discrimination is a natural component of the experience on earth. It's not a problem it's a lesson in the workbook of life.
Just for the record, mon ami, I don't owe you any deference or exceptional respect. And your above-it-all demeanour shall never garner you any.
clear?
oh yeah...
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can you feel the love?
Nope. I'm not a very clubby type person.
And Tesla, Einstein, Aristotle, etc. were all pretty bright people. But the common factor in there is that they are all dead. Their works are what is important to me.
I prefer a different term (than "God")for the connection between living things, personally. I prefer the term "life".
That's cool.
I haven't, but even if I had, I'd still think that individualism in beliefs would be the way I'd go.
Female=matter=mother=negative male =spirit =father=positive
The early christian ascetics were of course mad about the evils of flesh and the demands of matter on their spirits. They resented very much being stuck in red clay and thought to beat the admiration of flesh or the feminine out of themselves and anyone else they encountered. That covers hating women for no good reason. The gays sin is unproductive union, which has physical merit, at best.
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The origin of divergence of opinion and the confusion in which the entire debate has been thus involved are chiefly due to the misinterpretation and misconceptions introduced by Christian theology into the purview. It was due to an unbalanced application of the relation of the two constitutive elements of our nature, the natural element on our bodily side and the spiritual element on the side of soul. When Christian mentality lost sight of the principle of polarity, it mistook the functional beneficence of the warfare of opposites for an overt hostility of the negative pole to the positive and heaped upon matter and the flesh the stigma of enmity to the god, whether in man or in transcendence.
A study of Christian history discloses the portentous fact that the concept of the "malignancy of matter," coming into the movement from Hinduism through Zoroastrianism, became an influence overwhelmingly dominating the theology and the ethic. It bred the monstrous cult of asceticism, whose driving motivation was the idea that the instincts of the flesh must be crushed down in the interests of the spirit. Instead of holding the body in salutary relation to the soul, as nature’s means of giving the dual parental function of the two their chance to bring to birth the true Christ child in the physical body as its womb and cradle, Christianity tore the two natures violently apart and set the bodily pole in enmity against its positive twin. The opposition of function, all beneficent, was mistaken for the opposition of evil against good, or God.
The tragic consequence of this staggering default of insight are incalculable,THE ULTIMATE CANON OF KNOWLEDGE
A study of Christian history discloses the portentous fact that the concept of the "malignancy of matter," coming into the movement from Hinduism through Zoroastrianism, became an influence overwhelmingly dominating the theology and the ethic. It bred the monstrous cult of asceticism, whose driving motivation was the idea that the instincts of the flesh must be crushed down in the interests of the spirit. Instead of holding the body in salutary relation to the soul, as nature’s means of giving the dual parental function of the two their chance to bring to birth the true Christ child in the physical body as its womb and cradle, Christianity tore the two natures violently apart and set the bodily pole in enmity against its positive twin. The opposition of function, all beneficent, was mistaken for the opposition of evil against good, or God.
The tragic consequence of this staggering default of insight are incalculable,THE ULTIMATE CANON OF KNOWLEDGE
Yes. Real women will all agree with that and grin and bear it. Men have decided that that discrimination will be a component of life for women.
It is natural and right that men should deny women equality. All fools will think so.
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DL
Nope. I'm not a very clubby type person.
And Tesla, Einstein, Aristotle, etc. were all pretty bright people. But the common factor in there is that they are all dead. Their works are what is important to me.
I prefer a different term (than "God")for the connection between living things, personally. I prefer the term "life".
That's cool.
I haven't, but even if I had, I'd still think that individualism in beliefs would be the way I'd go.
That is what Gnostic Christianity sells. We just believe that we can teach a path to enlightenment regardless of which theology or God a person might think he prefers.
Any myth can be internalized and that is part of what we teach along with our attitude of seeking God and equality for women and gays.
I have no problem with individual belief systems, I have my own as well, but I am disappointed that yours did not answer that last question on a matter of women, gays and fundamental morality.
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DL
"Men have decided nothing, nature has, so you lot got a problem that dosn't have a human solution.
We men can't deny equality anymore than we can provide it."
uhuh Tell that to the Taliban in Afghanistan or Afghan women. Tell that to the women that went through the transition of not being able to vote into being able to vote back in 1918(Canada), 1920 (USA), etc.
We men can't deny equality anymore than we can provide it."
uhuh Tell that to the Taliban in Afghanistan or Afghan women. Tell that to the women that went through the transition of not being able to vote into being able to vote back in 1918(Canada), 1920 (USA), etc.
I distinctly remember stressing that we humans are required to work at the eternal perceived problem and I also indicated that it has been constantly worked at since the big inning. I think women help themselves and have helped themselves very sucessfully generation after generation after generation or do you suppose men have driven them to near extinction.
I'm not convinced that you've encountered any Christians, FP.
Are you able to cite any of these researchers?
Your Gnostic Christianity is a syncretic philosophy:
syncretism (noun)
the attempted reconciliation or union of different or opposing principles, practices, or parties, as in philosophy or religion. Syncretism | Define Syncretism at Dictionary.com
That universality you mentioned has been exhaustively identified as Sun worship. Many fail to see the light even as they bake in it.
Thank God for opposing principles .
KINSHIP OF MIND WITH NATURECHAPTER FIVE
The statement on the Emerald Tablet is reinforced by another to the same effect found on one of the Coffin Texts (330) which the author of a recent (1960) study entitled Myth and Symbol in Ancient Egypt declares to be the most direct identification of the soul with nature that the ancient wisdom has given us. It will bear quotation:
"Whether I live or die, I am Osiris,
I enter in and reappear through you,
I decay in you; I grow in you;
I fall down in you; I fall upon my side.
The gods are living in me, for I live and grow in the corn
That sustains the Honored Ones.
I cover the earth,
whether I live or die I am Barley,
I am not destroyed.
I have entered the Order,
I rely upon the Order,
I become Master of the Order,
I emerge in the Order,
I make my form distinct,
I am the Lord of the Chennet (Granary of Memphis),
I have entered into the Order,
I have reached its limits. . . ."
Here is the unqualified declaration of the god that his divine power has been turned into the earth for the sake of the integration of spirit and matter. Had that integration been achievable in heaven, the human mind can conceive of no justification for God’s sending souls down to earth to undergo the stress and strain of polarity. Here is sublime truth for lack of which religion has been groping in darkness and distraction over dolorous centuries. What a volte face it means for religion if, instead of thinking that souls find their salvation through escape from earth and recapture of heaven, it is known that they win redemption and victory through mastery, as Osiris says, of the order of nature in the earth that religion has so unctuously despised!
And what a light of understanding shines out for us from a brief statement in the Book of the Dead, where it is said that the souls of Osiris and Re are
twins! It is stated that when Osiris visits the so-called "Underworld," which is our earth and not, as has been mistakenly assumed, some limbo of Hades character even below the earth (another correction which would clarify a host of misconceptions about ancient religion), he meets there the soul of Re, and the two gods "embrace each other and so God exists in two forms." The brilliant illumination that this bit of mythicism can give our minds has been kept dark because modern mentality lacks the genius to identify those gods of ancient Egypt and Greece. How dull and slow we have been to realize that those ancient deities were the personifications of both natural and spiritual forces! Instead of being fictitious entities, they were the living potencies of universal life.THE ULTIMATE CANON OF KNOWLEDGE34
That universality you mentioned has been exhaustively identified as Sun worship. Many fail to see the light even as they bake in it.
Thank God for opposing principles .
To those who favor other myths, nothing wrong with sun worship. To Gnostics, it is the internalizing of the myth that brings enlightenment. Not the particular myth.
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DL
How many gnostics does it take to screw a light bulb.......?
None....they can't make up their minds if it exists or not..........
None....they can't make up their minds if it exists or not..........