Harvey threatens Texas

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Morti is someone who despises those that cultivise fairy tales.

You mean Morti is motti; Murphy is the mutty.

Are you the same one with a different name; no difference in fact.
So here is our song for tonight:

Morti is motti; Murphy is the mutty ...
Morti is motti; Murphy is the mutty (clap the hands) :laughing6:
 

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Cunning Wicked Zionist, you cannot divert me from telling people the truth, which you always impede. So whether you are Murphy or Morti .. all the same: I will ignore you and will reply to human beings only.
 

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Cunning Wicked Zionist, you cannot divert me from telling people the truth, which you always impede. So whether you are Murphy or Morti .. all the same: I will ignore you and will reply to human beings only.

Did you get a boner on 9/11?
 

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The lesson from the recent Hurricane Harvey:

This punishment coming from God is the result of:

>> the disobedience, the transgression

>> the idolatry (or the enthusiasm about Jesus and the saints),

>> and because of oppressing innocent Muslims who did nothing to other people ... claiming the terrorism and by accepting the propaganda of the Wicked Zionists of Tel Aviv about such designed terrorism.

Quran 65: 8, which means:
Yet how many cities rebelled against the command of its Lord and of His messengers [: apostles], so We punished them [in the World] with a severe punishment [according to their rebellion], and chastised them [in the Next Life] with a dreadful chastisement [: of which souls dread.]

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/65.htm#a65_8
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TWO:

When a city is punished by God with the punishment of extermination and annihilation, it will not be re-inhabited once again unless after a long time and under certain circumstances and conditions:

Quran 21: 95, which means:
And We prevent that [anyone spared out of the people of] any city which We destroy [to return back to it, but] they should not return e [thereto.]
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95 e It means: We forbid and prevent that anyone, spared out of a city which We afflict with the termination punishment, to return back to it; but We shower on them stones out of the sky and destroy them as did We destroy and exterminate the people of Lot with the stones: those of them who were not present in those destroyed cities when they were seized with the earthquake.

Or We take them far away from their cities by setting their enemies on them to take them captives; as did We set Nabuchodonsor on the Children of Israel, who after the killing, took the rest of them captives to Babylon in Iraq.

The meaning: We forbid and prevent that the people of such cities may return back thereto, and it is forbidden them to build it after its desolation, or to gather therein after their dispersion away from such cities.

Among such cities and countries was Palestine and the Jews; and that was when Nabuchodonsor destroyed, killed most of those who were in it, and took the rest of them captives to Iraq, to the land of Babylon. Some of them fled to Egypt, and remained refugees and dispersed in the earth for more than seventy years.

Then their sons returned, and in addition to those of them who stayed, they started to build the House of God at Jerusalem, and to build the walls of the city and its destroyed buildings.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/21.htm#a21_95
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What does Selfsame have in common with Mentalfloss??????

They both use a random naturally occurring tragedy to push their religious agenda
Their respective prophets???
Selfsame-------------Mohamed
Mentalfloss------------AL Gore
 

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selfsame is Nassir. A man who, despite claiming to be religious, lied, in order to get his membership back on this site after being banned. Not only is he a liar, but he is servant of Iblis. He was commanded by Iblis to come here and lie.

Nassir is a servant of Iblis. Like Iblis, Nassir lies and insults people here. Nassir claims to hate wicked Zionists, but he is worse, for he does the devil's bidding. A true servant of evil.

 

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The locals are saying that this is the best federal response to a hurricane ever
( globalcommunazi's lied again about this being a Trump failure, as usual)
;)
According to the governor of Texas on the radio anyway

Well, it turns out it WAS THE DEMOCRATS PREVENTED THE STANDARD WARNINGS and EVACUATION NOTICES in order to try to blame trump for the damage. the democratic mayor of Huston ordered a STAND DOWN of the relief effort.

How SICK can you get.



In case you didn't know it, the governor is Republican whose authority overrides all local officials. I doubt if anyone (even those from the delusional far right) are going to believe your fairy tale.




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Now, let's go back to the world of reality instead of right wing Republican bullschitt:





More than 20 Texas representatives and senators voted against Sandy aid. How will they vote on Harvey?


More than 20 Texas representatives and senators voted against Sandy aid. How will they vote on Harvey? - LA Times



The art of compromise, otherwise known as you-scratch-my-back-I’ll-scratch-yours, has all but disappeared from the halls of Congress in recent years. And that may put more than 20 members of the Texas congressional delegation in a bind when relief for the victims of Hurricane Harvey comes up for a vote.

The representatives, and Republican Sens. Ted Cruz and John Cornyn, all voted against a $50.5-billion relief package for victims of 2012’s Superstorm Sandy when it came before them in January 2013. (The measure passed anyway.) Although the shape and size of a relief package for victims of Harvey won’t emerge for at least several months, it’s clear that a big one will be needed. Damage estimates from the storm still pummeling the Gulf Coast around Houston have reached $40 billion, and are likely to rise.

Texas is almost certain to pose a drain on federal emergency resources for the indefinite future. “FEMA is going to be there for years,” Brock Long, administrator of the Federal Emergency Management Agency, said Sunday on CNN.

I won’t abandon Texas the way Ted Cruz did New York.
— Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y.



Texas lawmakers haven’t yet been asked how they will vote on the inevitable package. But on Friday, even before Harvey’s landfall, Cruz and Cornyn sent a letter to President Trump asking him for a major disaster declaration. Trump issued the declaration that evening.

Lawmakers and others from the New York-New Jersey region that sustained the heaviest damage from Sandy, moreover, have signaled that they’ll be on hypocrite watch when it comes time to vote on Harvey aid. “1 bad turn doesn’t deserve another,” Republican Rep. Peter King of New York wrote in a tweet directed at Cruz. In a second tweet he pledged, “I won’t abandon Texas the way Ted Cruz did New York.”


On Saturday, the New York Daily News was quick to underscore the irony in Cruz and Cornyn scurrying to secure emergency assistance for their home state after voting against Sandy relief. “The devastation of Hurricane Harvey has two-faced Texas politicians looking for the same sort of relief funding they flatly opposed five years ago,” the newspaper reported.

How Hurricane Matthew will make fools out of lawmakers who voted against Sandy aid
Of the 24 GOP members of the Texas House delegation in 2013, all but one voted against the Sandy relief package in 2013. The one “yea” vote was Rep. John Culberson, whose district includes Houston. But seven other Houston-area congressmen voted the package down. All 12 Democratic members of the delegation voted in favor of Sandy relief with the exception of Sheila Jackson Lee, who represents central Houston and didn’t cast a vote. Three Republicans and two Democrats in office at the time of the vote are no longer serving in Congress.

Most of the lawmakers who commented on the 2013 Sandy appropriation couched their opposition in terms of fiscal responsibility. The issue, they said, was that the Sandy bill had been larded down with non-Sandy and non-emergency spending. “Emergency relief for the families who are suffering from this natural disaster should not be used as a Christmas tree for billions in unrelated spending," Cruz said then.

Others demanded that every dollar spent on Sandy relief be balanced by a dollar cut somewhere else in the federal budget. As I wrote last year, when Louisiana congressmen who voted against Sandy were tasked with securing relief for victims of Hurricane Matthew, this position elevated the ideology of the balanced budget to an article of faith. Notably, the lawmakers insisting on a one-for-one trade-off against Sandy aid were never specific about where the cuts should come from.

These Louisiana politicians are demanding flood aid, but voted against Sandy relief
A second ideology undergirding hostility to Sandy aid was climate change denial; virtually every lawmaker who voted against the package had also denied or expressed extreme skepticism about climate change, even though it may well have magnified the impact of of the storm on low-lying districts, and may well have contributed to the devastating potency of Hurricane Harvey. As I reported then, tying climate change to specific weather events is difficult, but climatologists say that among the likely consequences of climate change is an increase in the frequency of Category 4 and 5 storms like Matthew and Harvey.

The biggest factor influencing the Sandy vote, however, may have been the disappearance of bipartisan comity from the halls of Congress. The process may be denigrated as “logrolling,” but the idea that every legislator is going to need something from his or her colleagues at one point or another is ingrained in history. When a Mississippi flood displaced 600,000 residents of the Delta in 1927, for instance, Rep. Phil Swing personally led a congressional tour of the region. Swing represented California, 1,800 miles away, so what was he up to? Simple, he was preparing the ground for a flood control project for his home district, the Imperial Valley. He sponsored the Delta restoration bill and got his wish — congressional funding for what we know today as Hoover Dam. Both regions reaped decades of benefits.

The breakdown of partisan and regional cooperation has been compounded by the substitution of ideology for foresight. That’s a particular danger today, when the possibility — nay, probability — of future devastation from climate change, not to mention other natural occurrences, is staring us in the face. As Rep. Frank LoBiondo, (R-N.J.), called to GOP holdouts after their 2013 vote against Sandy relief: “Florida, good luck with no more hurricanes. California, congratulations, did you get rid of the Andreas fault? The Mississippi's in a drought. Do you think you're not going to have a flood again? Who are you going to come to when you have these things?”

We’ll know soon enough. The bills for Harvey will be coming due very, very soon.








Unlike the folks in the NYC Metro area, the Texans all claim to be independent types who don't need or want federal aid. Now let's see if they stand on principle and reject all such aid. I won't hold my breath waiting for them to do so.
 

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In case you didn't know it, the governor is Republican whose authority overrides all local officials. I doubt if anyone (even those from the delusional far right) are going to believe your fairy tale.

There is also the fact that evacuating several million people in just a few days is pretty much impossible, Does anyone remember the huge traffic snarls when Ft. McMurray was evacuated? And that was only 80,000 people. Nothing like riding out a hurricane while stuck in a hundred km traffic jam.
 

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There is also the fact that evacuating several million people in just a few days is pretty much impossible, Does anyone remember the huge traffic snarls when Ft. McMurray was evacuated? And that was only 80,000 people. Nothing like riding out a hurricane while stuck in a hundred km traffic jam.


Not much comparison as there is more than one route in and out of Houston and I didn't hear anywhere that the entire city of Houston was being evacuated as was the case in Fort Mac.
 

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Family of 6 dies in Hurricane Harvey horror
BRAD HUNTER, Toronto Sun
First posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 06:44 AM EDT | Updated: Monday, August 28, 2017 06:55 PM EDT
Hurricane Harvey’s horror and heartache hammered Houston Monday.
The Texan city — already in a state of emergency — was hit by more rain and flooding.
In the latest tragedy connected to the Lone Star state’s most financially-devastating hurricane, six members of one family died when their van was swept away by flooding.
The family — identified as Manuel Saldivar, 84, his wife Belia, 81, and their great grandchildren Daisy Saldivar, 6, Xavier Saldivar, 8, Dominic Saldivar, 14, Devy Saldivar, 16 — were killed while trying to flee, KHOU reports.
Cops say the six became trapped when the van’s back door wouldn’t open.
The kids’ great uncle managed to escaped before flood waters swept the family to their deaths. While cops would not confirm the tragedy, three members of the family acknowledged the terrible truth.
Houston Police Chief Art Acevedo told The Associated Press: “[I’m] really worried about how many bodies we’re going to find.”
The latest:
Harvey slammed into the Texas Gulf coast as a hurricane but has been downgraded to a tropical storm.
Forecasters with the National Weather Service are calling for about 60 centimetres of rain — meaning the worst may be yet to come
So far, eight people have been killed in the storm.
Houston’s 911 system has received 75,000 calls since Harvey inundated the city, including 20,000 just since late Sunday.
For the fourth consecutive day, Harvey dumped rain on the Houston area following a weekend packed with chaos.
Houston is one of the country’s most sprawling metropolitan areas, about 16,000 square kilometres bigger than the state of New Jersey. As a port built on a floodplain, it’s criss-crossed by more than 3,000 kilometres of canals, creeks, channels and bayous.
On Monday, huge swaths of the city were deserted as most traffic signals no longer work and many businesses shut their doors.
Meanwhile, rescuers continued plucking people from the floodwaters — at least 2,000 so far, cops said.
Rescuers were giving priority to life-and-death situations, leaving many people to fend for themselves.
Chris Thorn was among the many volunteers still helping with the mass evacuation that began Sunday. He drove with a buddy from the Dallas area with their flat-bottom hunting boat to pull strangers out of the water.
“I couldn’t sit at home and watch it on TV and do nothing since I have a boat and all the tools to help,” he said.
Now, authorities are bracing for more rain, more flooding and more bodies.
The amount of water was so unprecedented that meteorologists had to update the colour charts on the weather service’s official rainfall maps.
U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration assured Congress that the $3 billion balance in FEMA’s disaster fund was enough to handle immediate needs, such as debris removal and temporary shelter for thousands of displaced residents.
When lawmakers return next week, a multi-billion-dollar aid package is likely to be added to their already packed agenda.
Trump planned to visit Texas on Tuesday, accompanied by first lady Melania Trump.
— With files from The Associated Press
Family of 6 dies in Hurricane Harvey horror | World | News | Toronto Sun

Fishing is good!
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Video of Houston man diving for fish in home flooded by Hurricane Harvey goes viral
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First posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:37 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, August 28, 2017 12:53 PM EDT
A Houston man made sure the intruder swimming in his family's flooded home didn't get very far.
The uninvited guest? A small fish.
Houston resident Viviana Saldana found a humorous way to deal with flooding caused by Hurricane Harvey. On Saturday she posted a series of amusing videos to social media showing the bare-chested man flopping into a foot of water to catch the errant fish.
"Why go out looking for food when the food is coming to our living room?" Saldana wrote on Facebook.
The videos have received more than 26 million views as of Monday afternoon.
The man eventually captured the fish by its tail with his bare hands after several unsuccessful attempts.
(Viviana Saldana/Facebook)

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Video of Houston man diving for fish in home flooded by Hurricane Harvey goes vi

Hurricane Harvey photo of 13-month-old baby rescued in mother's arms becomes iconic image of storm efforts
Adam Geller, THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
First posted: Monday, August 28, 2017 04:52 PM EDT | Updated: Monday, August 28, 2017 05:05 PM EDT
In the photo, tiny Aiden Pham — 13 months old and swaddled in a blanket — nestles asleep in his mother’s arms, even as the floodwaters from Hurricane Harvey surge around them.
Someday, no doubt, Aiden’s mother will tell him about the day Houston police rescued them from their flooded home by boat, and about how one officer lifted them to safety. But thanks to the careful eye of a veteran Associated Press photographer assigned to cover the storm, the world already knows the mother, child and officer as the faces of the struggle to deal with the devastation.
“I was just keeping an eye out and as soon as I saw the SWAT team member carrying her and then seeing the baby, I just couldn’t believe that baby was wrapped up in there and not crying,” photographer David Phillip said of the moment Sunday afternoon when his lens found the trio. “It was just tender. It was very special.”
Phillip’s photo shows officer Daryl Hudeck, in baseball cap and fatigues, carrying Catherine Pham and the son she cradled through knee-deep water covering Interstate 610, in southwest Houston.
Phillip said the woman and child were rescued along with the baby’s father from their home in the city’s Meyerland section, where water reached many roofs.
By Monday, the image had quickly become a symbol of the storm and rescue efforts, featured across the web and many front pages.
The Phams, carried to a police staging point at a high spot in the road, were quickly whisked away Sunday, giving Phillip just a minute or two to get their names and witness their relief.
Soon, Phillip said, he broke away to transmit the photos. It’s a good thing, too. Not long after, the police boat he was on hit an object underwater, probably a submerged car, and the photographer was pitched into the water. His leg was cut by the boat’s outboard motor before fire department rescuers could pull him on board. One of his cameras and all the images it contained were lost.
Phillip, who is 51 and has been a photographer for the AP for 22 years, all based in Houston, has covered many hurricanes. But Katrina, Ike and Rita could not prepare him for the one that has swamped his home city.
During Katrina, “I did see a lot of disturbing things, you know, dogs eating bodies and that sort of thing,” he said. “But having this is your home, it’s just kind of a sickening feeling. I just kind of think it’s a bad dream and we’ll all wake up and it will all be gone. But it isn’t going to be any time soon.”
Still, Phillip said, seeing police rescue people like Catherine and Aiden Pham has been a reminder of his city’s endurance.
“There’s moments that will always stick in your head — that one and something that happened a few hours before them, when a sheriff’s deputy had to go and rescue a guy from a flooded car,” he said. “Just the terror on the gentleman’s face who was being rescued and just how dedicated our law enforcement is, just doing what they can to save people.”
Houston Police SWAT officer Daryl Hudeck carries Catherine Pham and her 13-month-old son Aiden after rescuing them from their home surrounded by floodwaters from Tropical Storm Harvey Sunday, Aug. 27, 2017, in Houston. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


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There is also the fact that evacuating several million people in just a few days is pretty much impossible, Does anyone remember the huge traffic snarls when Ft. McMurray was evacuated? And that was only 80,000 people. Nothing like riding out a hurricane while stuck in a hundred km traffic jam.

A now deceased family friend had been a Lieutenant Colonel in the Canadian Army in the sixties. He commanded a Militia gun battery out in rural Southern Ontario (Seaforth). They had frequent civil defense drills and rehearsals for a nuclear war scenario. Their job was to turn around refugees streaming from Toronto and send them back to where they came from, in the case of a disaster. Mass evacuations are not a desirable outcome for those in charge or for those who have to take in the evacuees.
 

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There is also the fact that evacuating several million people in just a few days is pretty much impossible, Does anyone remember the huge traffic snarls when Ft. McMurray was evacuated? And that was only 80,000 people. Nothing like riding out a hurricane while stuck in a hundred km traffic jam.

Moreover, they have to prepare a place for receiving the evacuated. A safe place or places far away from the storms, like some large halls or barracks equipped with temporary stuffs essential for living and comfort: specially for the old, the children and the disabled.
And even, other than the tired people, ordinary people will also be exhausted, if the situation lasts for more than several hours.