Harper Snubs The Catholics By Not Eating The Host

[captain morgan]

You forgot to answer the first question because you know that the Conservatives are making the Liberal party look good by not keeping their Conservative promises.

And with a $50 Billion growing deficit it will take the Liberal government to get back to a surplus and you know it.

You being a Captain you should be able to hear the Conservative ship's captain yelling these words Mayday Mayday Mayday Conservative ship sinking fast All Hands Abandon Ship, All Hands Abandon Ship,Mayday Mayday mayd.......

Sorry Liberlaman, I assumed that my answer was clear via the post.

Let me make it perfectly clear, it is vastly more advantageous to elect a government that, by virtue of the fact they are politicians - lie as opposed to a federal party that has a track record of stealing billions upon billions of dollars from the public.

You see liberalman, what you haven't recognized is that a government that defrauds and steals from you also lies to your face as well... That said, why would I support the liberals who, clearly, are guilty of both?

Hope that answers the question for you.

 

[justfred]

Well we had better get the body bags out and tell the world that there will be a mass funeral for Steven doing such a thing. What do you think, 10, 20, 100 thousand body bags needed for such a deed. NO. No body bags what so ever are needed. Nobody died. Get this through your head.
I wonder if it simple things keep simple minds, (those in the media) busy for days, over nothing.

 

[Nuggler]

As a Catholic, let me tell you, I've been crying all morning because someone didn't fully understand a part of mass that it's taken me more than half my life to wrap my head around. I was crushed, devastated. I don't know how I'll recover. :roll:

Hang in there, Karrie - Crackers on their way - special delivery.
;-)

 

[Cliffy]

Hang in there, Karrie - Crackers on their way - special delivery.
;-)

Do you mean that in the way some black folk call white folk "crackers"?

 

[Nuggler]

Well we had better get the body bags out and tell the world that there will be a mass funeral for Steven doing such a thing. What do you think, 10, 20, 100 thousand body bags needed for such a deed. NO. No body bags what so ever are needed. Nobody died. Get this through your head.
I wonder if it simple things keep simple minds, (those in the media) busy for days, over nothing.

Wellllllllllllllll, I dunno. Heard the Western United Sepratits Canadians were gettin out the sheets, cuttin the eye-holes and preparin to ride on Ottywaw.

And, that's just cuz Harpo had the "odd" dacity to enter an RC church, and intro himself and wifey to el Poperino.

Imagine the blood and carnage had he actually partaken of the host!!!!

Jeeeeezuzzzzzz, I just CAIN'T STAND the thought of it. Innocent RC's slaughtered in their sleep.............all because of this right wing, wing-nut, nutbar, drooling Conservationist..........8O

:sad4:tis a horrible ting........horrible)

 

[Machjo]

Our Prime Minister is at it again grabbing the wafer form the priest and viciously shoving the body of Christ in his suit pocket.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/663208

Catholics in Canada are upset and are re-evaluating if Conservatives is for them

Here's somthing I don't get. From my understanding, according to Catholic doctrine, only a Catholic or an Orthodox Christian (historical political reasons; look it up for yourself) can receive communion in a Catholic Communion.

Harper is Protestant, to the best of my knowledge, so why would he have even been allowed to take communion?

Unless things have changed more towards ecumenism since last I checked? Just asking. But I know that when I'm invited to Catholic Mass, I never take communion because I don't profess either the Catholic or Orthodox Faiths. I did do my first communion, having been raised Catholic, but I'd always known the rule that if you're not, you can't partake of communin, So when I'd adopted a new Faith, I'd respected the rule and stopped communion.

 

[Nuggler]

:tongue6: I've seen a few hosts I wouldn't care to be eatin either.

 

[Liberalman]

I heard the Catholics are burning their Conservative cards and joining the opposition parties.

If Stephen Harper wants to save any dignity he might have left he must go to a Catholic Mass apologize and take the Body of Christ in front of the cameras.

This would make a good photo opp.

 

[Trex]

I hear most Catholics couldn't care less and its a total non issue.

I think there is much more meat on the strange habit Harper has of constantly being late for world leadership meetings.

Hand washing fetish?
Bladder issues?
Stage fright?
Withdrawal?

Trex

 

[Walter]

I heard Ratzinger kneed Harper in the nuts during their private confab in the Vatican; all is now forgiven.

 

[mit]

I liked the whole wheat hosts better than the white ones we get now.

 

[Walter]

Telegraph-Journal apologizes to Prime Minister

Published Tuesday July 28th, 2009

On Wednesday, July 8, 2009, the Telegraph-Journal published a story about the funeral mass celebrating the life of former Governor-General Romeo LeBlanc that was inaccurate and should not have been published. We pride ourselves in maintaining high standards of journalism and ethical reporting, and regret this was not followed in this case.
The story stated that a senior Roman Catholic priest in New Brunswick had demanded that the Prime Minister's Office explain what happened to the communion wafer which was handed to Prime Minister Harper during the celebration of communion at the funeral mass. The story also said that during the communion celebration, the Prime Minister "slipped the thin wafer that Catholics call 'the host' into his jacket pocket".
There was no credible support for these statements of fact at the time this article was published, nor is the Telegraph-Journal aware of any credible support for these statements now. Our reporters Rob Linke and Adam Huras, who wrote the story reporting on the funeral, did not include these statements in the version of the story that they wrote. In the editing process, these statements were added without the knowledge of the reporters and without any credible support for them.
The Telegraph-Journal sincerely apologizes to the Prime Minister for the harm that this inaccurate story has caused. We also apologize to reporters Rob Linke and Adam Huras and to our readers for our failure to meet our own standards of responsible journalism and accuracy in reporting.

 

[Machjo]

Our Prime Minister is at it again grabbing the wafer form the priest and viciously shoving the body of Christ in his suit pocket.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/663208

Catholics in Canada are upset and are re-evaluating if Conservatives is for them

Are you illiterate? I'd read the entire article, and nowhere did it state that he'd pocketed it. It stated rather that there were questions as to whether he'd pocketed it.

If you want to criticize a person on legitimate grounds, fair enough. But you needn't slander him unjustly.

 

[Machjo]

:lol::lol::lol:.....Ah Jeez, Liberalguy.

Usually el Priesto places the host in your hand. If you don't want it, keep your hands folded in front of you; which is what he should have done. Then he would have taken shyte for not accepting bla bla bla.

If he had remained seated, he would be showing "disrespect" according to the media......lose lose lose.

Looks good on him.

Anyone know what brand of hair spray he uses? Looks like the same as Jimmy Swaggart's.

PRRRRRRRAAAAIIIIIZZZZZZZZZZZZ
GEEEEEZZZUZZZ!!!!
too rich.:lol:

I've been to Catholic mass as a non-Catholic, and as such always refused the wafer. It had never caused a scandal, and I can guarantee that Harpers' refusal to accept it would not have caused any scandal whatsoever in the Catholic Church. Refusal to accept it as a non-Catholic is standard practice at a Catholic mass. In fact, accepting it, even if eating it on camera right afterwards, would likely cause mroe scandal on the grounds that according to Catholic doctrine, only Catholics and Orthodox are allowed to accept the wafer during Catholic mass. In fact, under certain conditions, even a Catholic will refuse a wafer without scandal, which again is normal practice.

But Harpers' acceptance of it, even had it been on camera, would not likely cause a scandal for him, but rather for the priest for not having ensured beforehand that the guests be aware that if not either Catholic or Orthodox, they are not to take the wafer. And even that would likely be more of a backdoor 'scandal', or should i say 'scandalette'. It really wouldn't be a big deal other than maybe someone reminding that priset to be more careful next time, not much more scandalous than that.

 

[Machjo]

Liberalman, don't confuse Roman Catholicism with Christianity.

All Catholics are Christians, but not all Christians are Catholics.

The Host, in the form of a wafer is exclusive to Catholics. If and when Harper (or any non-Catholics) take communion, it is NOT a wafer, but usually a piece of bread.

Not entirely accurate. Orthodox can accept it too, according to Catholic doctrine, since the Catholic Church officially sees the Great Schism as a political, not theological, dispute. The Orthodox Churches though do not allow a Catholic to accept the host because they believe the split was a theological, not political, dispute.

Remember the song, 'Can't you feel the love tonight'?

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Let's see:
-if you're not Catholic, you're not supposed to take communion. Harper didn't join the line, he stayed in his seat.
-the Archbishop has the authority to offer communion to non-catholics, if he wishes. It was the Archbishop who specifically offered it to Harper.
-there is a precedent that, as long as you have the faith in your heart, accepting communion is not a problem. Everyone says Harper is a Christian of some denomination.
-Harper may or may not have eaten the cracker, his office may be lying or not.
-Who the **** cares? Don't we have any real issues to worry about?

Indeed. Religion is all superstition anyway. Who cares if Harper ate the wafer, pocketed it or threw it away? Maybe he wasn’t hungry.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Are you illiterate? I'd read the entire article, and nowhere did it state that he'd pocketed it. It stated rather that there were questions as to whether he'd pocketed it.

If you want to criticize a person on legitimate grounds, fair enough. But you needn't slander him unjustly.

I quite agree, Machjo, this is a silly argument. I find Harper can be criticized on many issues, and there is no way he is getting my vote come next election. But whether he ate the wafer, pocketed it, gave it to somebody else, it is a non issue. Who cares?

 

[Downhome_Woman]

Actually Jack, the Host isn't exclusive to Roman Catholics. I was confirmed as an Anglican and on the very few times I partook of communion, I partook of the Host. for the record, I was confirmed because I was a child and had no choice. when I became an adult I knew that to take communion with something I didn't believe would be hypocrasy and I've never partaken since.
Having said that, there is a way for non Catholics to go to the rail - they simply cross their arms over their chest indicating that they will not be taking communion. His protocol officer should be fired.

 

[TenPenny]

The most interesting part of this story is that the names of the editor and publisher no longer appear in the Telegraph-Journal's masthead.

I think grand-dad got a little ticked off with little Jamie.

 

[Machjo]

Actually Jack, the Host isn't exclusive to Roman Catholics. I was confirmed as an Anglican and on the very few times I partook of communion, I partook of the Host. for the record, I was confirmed because I was a child and had no choice. when I became an adult I knew that to take communion with something I didn't believe would be hypocrasy and I've never partaken since.
Having said that, there is a way for non Catholics to go to the rail - they simply cross their arms over their chest indicating that they will not be taking communion. His protocol officer should be fired.

As far as I know though, according to Catholic Doctrine, only Catholics and Orthodox may partake of Catholic communion, possibly with some exceptions as appears to be the case here. And Anglican is neither Catholic nor Orthodox, and so a special exemption would have to be made for him too.