Harper rips Elections Canada over veil ruling

[Just the Facts]

who are non Muslims non Arabs to make them change....They think it is a religous thing we should deal with them in respecting it on that level.....

I respect their right to wear the veil (although, technically, wearing a disguise in public IS illegal, with the accepted cultural exceptions being Hallowe'en and clowns, but I digress) just not while they're voting, using a bus pass, posing for a driver's license photo, etc. etc.

If this sticks, I don't see how we can possibly tell Rasta's they don't have the right to spark up a spliff in the booth, to help them make the right decision.

 

[Avro]

I heard a rep from the Muslim community on the radio just yesterday saying this is the last thing they needed or wanted.

 

[CDNBear]

I heard a rep from the Muslim community on the radio just yesterday saying this is the last thing they needed or wanted.

You know what Avro, that is what we all need to hear more of...the people most effected speaking out about actions that can shed a bad light on their community.

I feel for all the Muslims that came to Canada and wanted to be Canadian, because they saw a nation that they could prosper in, not take advantage of.

Good for him...

I'm wondering if Elections canada, just took this step on their own.

If so, some heads should roll.

 

[Avro]

You know what Avro, that is what we all need to hear more of...the people most effected speaking out about actions that can shed a bad light on their community.

I feel for all the Muslims that came to Canada and wanted to be Canadian, because they saw a nation that they could prosper in, not take advantage of.

Good for him...

I'm wondering if Elections canada, just took this step on their own.

If so, some heads should roll.

Government agencies taking action without a groups request is more common than not. It's silly and sheds a poor light on many who come to this country to make a good life for themselves. One of my best friends is Muslim and this sort of thing drives his family and friends nuts.

 

[CDNBear]

Government agencies taking action without a groups request is more common than not. It's silly and sheds a poor light on many who come to this country to make a good life for themselves. One of my best friends is Muslim and this sort of thing drives his family and friends nuts.

And rightly so...

This sort of "do gooder' pro-active affirmative action, is really inappropriate and should be delt with severly...I doubt that will happen.

What about a class action law suit.

That might shake of these nerdowells...

 

[Avro]

Sure, it's the same with reserves. If it were me I'd retake them as Canadian and assimulate the natives as Canadians and stop the welfare states we have created.

Face it, the Indians lost.

 

[Zzarchov]

And the bending begins...until the back breaks, or penetration is inevitable.

Lets be fair here, I can tell the muslim women who wear veils I know apart by their eyes just fine. Now there is no law saying they can't show their face, so we think we get to dictate morality and tell them they HAVE to show more of their face.

Perhaps later we can decide we can only fully Identify a woman by her breasts, their is no law saying women can't go topless after all, its legal.

Lets just force women to go against their own modesty and moral objections if they want equal rights then.


Its no different, sure YOU don't think showing the face is immodest and many many women around the world don't see going topless as immodest (nor do our laws). I wouldnt' force a woman to take her shirt off to vote though.


A face is not a good way to validate someone is who they say they were, I shaved and wore different clothes not a week ago as a joke on some old friends I hadn't seen in two months. I sat the table across from them for 2 hours at a dinner as they got pissed off and tried calling my cell, not 4 feet from me. Visual ID is nice, but its laughable with security.


If you really care about ensuring someone is who they say they are and not about forcing people to either subject themselves to our oggling eyes and way of life or be cut out from government...

Then lets get somethign that works like, Ida know, Finger printing.

That being said, the law is the law. Its not for elections canada to decide. Its for the courts to decide unless the governments use the notwithstanding clause.

 

[Tonington]

Some of the same people who advocate keeping religion out of schools, don't mind bending over backwards for "religion" when it comes to voting........

Very puzzling:roll:

But religion is still in schools, and paid for by the government, Ontario be a fine example of that. So allow all or none. When voting, same thing, accomodate every religion or none. Personally I'd like to see none at all, feel free to do whatever you want in any other building and institution, not government run though.

As you say you can't bend to one then not the other. Much better to stand up straight

 

[DaSleeper]

But religion is still in schools, and paid for by the government, Ontario be a fine example of that. So allow all or none. When voting, same thing, accomodate every religion or none. Personally I'd like to see none at all, feel free to do whatever you want in any other building and institution, not government run though.

As you say you can't bend to one then not the other. Much better to stand up straight

My post was a reflection on how some people seem to be oh so politically correct when it comes to accommodating everyone who comes to Canada to the point of letting them vote without verifying their identity.
When It comes to schools, a school is not a government institution, It is allocated money by the government but it is run entirely by a separate entity...a school board which ensures that the courses taught meet a certain standard...Certain courses are compulsory others are optional....to me Religion is just one more optional one...

 

[Just the Facts]

A face is not a good way to validate someone is who they say they were, I shaved and wore different clothes not a week ago as a joke on some old friends I hadn't seen in two months. I sat the table across from them for 2 hours at a dinner as they got pissed off and tried calling my cell, not 4 feet from me. Visual ID is nice, but its laughable with security.

That's interesting. My experience was quite the opposite. When I shaved my beard no one noticed. My own mother didn't notice, and she absolutely HATED the beard! :smile:

 

[Tonington]

My post was a reflection on how some people seem to be oh so politically correct when it comes to accommodating everyone who comes to Canada to the point of letting them vote without verifying their identity.
When It comes to schools, a school is not a government institution, It is allocated money by the government but it is run entirely by a separate entity...a school board which ensures that the courses taught meet a certain standard...Certain courses are compulsory others are optional....to me Religion is just one more optional one...

That's false, a school is a government institution. Taxes pay for it and government employs teachers. A public school has to cow-toe to everyone now, ie Christmas concert becomes Holliday concert or some such thing. Catholic private schools subsidized by government have rights that other religions do not. Are school boards not elected where you are? That's government. School boards are basically delegation of responsibility to local levels, where regional management is easier to facilitate than on a larger scale, and funding again comes form guess who?

It has to be all or one, no excpetions as you said.

 

[Just the Facts]

Then lets get somethign that works like, Ida know, Finger printing.

I would be OK with that as an alternative. If you're willing to be fingerprinted or have a RFID installed in your brain then sure, go ahead and cover up.

 

[Just the Facts]

I guess another alternative would be to use the dye like they did in Iraq. That way, who cares who you are, you still only get one vote.

 

[Tonington]

I guess another alternative would be to use the dye like they did in Iraq. That way, who cares who you are, you still only get one vote.

Further, why would you lie when you get only one vote and have to have your name on a list É

 

[Tonington]

ÉÉÉ Anyone know why my question marks might look like thisÉ It doesn`t do this in MS Office.....

 

[DaSleeper]

Ok....I'll concede that I used the wrong analogy in my first post but I am still of the opinion that parents should have a voice in what is taught their children no matter what their religion is, but when it comes to voting leave religion behind...you still have to be positively identified when you vote......

I will also spellcheck my posts....and run them by my lawyer before I press the [submit reply];-):roll:

 

[goat]

ÉÉÉ Anyone know why my question marks might look like thisÉ It doesn`t do this in MS Office.....

I hope I can.

This occurs with me. I'm using Vista. If you are, check your keyboard icon on the lower right, click on it and then check 'US'.

Yes, that very same dreaded, much maligned, and hated US.:lol:

 

[Tonington]

Do you think parents have the right to demand what is taught with respect to evolutionÉ

 

[DaSleeper]

ÉÉÉ Anyone know why my question marks might look like thisÉ It doesn`t do this in MS Office.....

If you are using a notebook, have you pressed Fn and Numlk at any time to get french CSR's?

 

[DaSleeper]

Do you think parents have the right to demand what is taught with respect to evolutionÉ

Science is a compulsory subject, not optional.......