Harper poised to throw rural farmers under the bus
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Being different from other businesses how? Except the government(taxpayer) guarantees then a high price for their product and restricts competition regardless of market conditions.
Canada is preparing to open the border to more American milk, without getting reciprocal access for Canadian dairy farmers in the United States, CBC News has learned.
Trade Minister Ed Fast will leave the campaign trail to join his counterparts in Atlanta on Wednesday, intent on concluding the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade talks. Chief negotiators from the 12 Pacific Rim member countries meet starting Saturday.
Conservatives want to conclude a deal before the Oct. 19 election and cast it as a win for consumers. But what Fast offers could seriously disrupt the supply-managed dairy sector.
If that happens, "there's going to be a war," says Yves Leduc from the Dairy Farmers of Canada. "The industry will never accept that."
The list of outstanding issues is now very short: rules of origin for the automotive sector, which are also sensitive in Canada, as well as intellectual property protections for pharmaceuticals. The deal is portrayed as "98 per cent done."
The short strokes on dairy come down to how much of Canada's domestic market would be opened up to American products to compensate U.S. dairy producers for opening up their market to TPP partners such as New Zealand, an aggressive and competitive dairy exporter.
CBC News has learned Canada is prepared to offer up a significant share of its domestic market (as defined by consumption levels), including not only fluid milk, but also possibly butter, cheese, yogurt or the milk powders and proteins used to make other foods.
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Trans-Pacific Partnership could include big dairy concession - Politics - CBC News
Trade Minister Ed Fast will leave the campaign trail to join his counterparts in Atlanta on Wednesday, intent on concluding the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade talks. Chief negotiators from the 12 Pacific Rim member countries meet starting Saturday.
Conservatives want to conclude a deal before the Oct. 19 election and cast it as a win for consumers. But what Fast offers could seriously disrupt the supply-managed dairy sector.
If that happens, "there's going to be a war," says Yves Leduc from the Dairy Farmers of Canada. "The industry will never accept that."
The list of outstanding issues is now very short: rules of origin for the automotive sector, which are also sensitive in Canada, as well as intellectual property protections for pharmaceuticals. The deal is portrayed as "98 per cent done."
The short strokes on dairy come down to how much of Canada's domestic market would be opened up to American products to compensate U.S. dairy producers for opening up their market to TPP partners such as New Zealand, an aggressive and competitive dairy exporter.
CBC News has learned Canada is prepared to offer up a significant share of its domestic market (as defined by consumption levels), including not only fluid milk, but also possibly butter, cheese, yogurt or the milk powders and proteins used to make other foods.
more
Trans-Pacific Partnership could include big dairy concession - Politics - CBC News
Boy the long knives are out today....its comming down to the wire 3 weeks before polling day..and this...talk about 11th hour decisions...you know nearly all of these farmers are leveraged to the hilt, they go bankrupt, banks dont get paid....lots of municipalites will feel the pinch to..oh this is long term ...the effect for some time to come ..never mind exports to boost gdp..looks good..but may more in canada out of a home & out ofa job..& so forth on account of this..newer version of JACK & THE BEAN STOCK.. hARPO= JACK....a bigger fool if there ever was one.....if this all comes to pass its adark day for canada, as for us dairy farmers..HA! no if anything their gate prices will still fall, no matter how much they over produce & get no further ahead...more losers in this deal.....so stay tuned everyone & dont touch that dial!!!
Tell me about it. If we left the hydro connected to the barn at the co op farm, we wouldn't be saving any money on the animals we raise.
Next year, solar though. that will make things a little easier on us.
Don't get suckered in by the wind pipedream. They offer big money to lease the site then put a lien against the land
We thought wind at first because where the farm is, hill top, windy as hell. But the amount needed to supply the barn, pump house and house, would be visually intrusive. So collectively we went with solar. The barn faces north/south, so we'll place panels on both sides of the roof, and run two banks, one for the barn and pump house, and one later, for the house.
a good point no one sees..why should canadian dairy farmers be subjects of subsidizing us farmers...they already get enough welfare from minions in washinton,, the dairy farmers in canada get none.....this is truely off.....
Let's talk about TPP, the global trade equivalent of ISIS. Democratic no kleptocratic yes. Open and transparent no, secretive and sinister yes. Best interests of all people no best interests of certain few people yes. If they talked openly about this global conspiracy to defraud they would all be hung from lampposts.
ISIS is easily identified as TPTB since it is their ambitions being realized. One world, one government, one colour, one way, absolute unity under the Lords of this World.
they put a lien on your propert when you allow wind turbines..whats the justification for that now....
Where are these magnitudes of starving farmers? The only ones starving that I'm aware of are organic prodhcers.
Leverage. The encumbrance guarantees a landowner can't pull the fields from under their turbines.
Wind Leaseholders May Be On The Hook For Billions | Ontario Wind Resistance
More Harpler accomplishments, a list, leading to a capsize?
Over the past decade the warrior nation wannabes in Ottawa preferred to preside over disastrous years of war in Afghanistan, to help open a Pandora’s Box of multiple misfortunes by participating in an illegal regime change exercise in Libya, and unthinkingly to join in the anti-ISIL bombing of Iraq and Syria, thus worsening the refugee crisis and exposing Canadians to a heightened risk of retaliation at home and abroad.
Other hallmarks of the past decade?
Spurning progressive diplomatic or developmental initiatives of any description
Sidelining the public service and imposing drastic reductions to international capacity through cuts to DFATD, CIC, science-based departments and agencies, and international NGOs
Centralizing, controlling and censoring all international communications, while concentrating decision-making in the PMO
Failing to win election to the UN Security Council, while opting for a photo-op at Tim Horton’s over attending the UN General Assembly
Refusing to attend multilateral meetings, and rejecting or withdrawing from a variety of international agreements
Bungling Canada’s relationship with the Asia-Pacific region, the rising centre of the world political economy
Adopting a highly skewed set of policy positions on issues involving, variously, Iran, Israel, the Palestinians, and issues of Middle East peace
Shuttering the Pearson Peacekeeping Centre, the Canadian Centre for Human Rights and Democratic Development, and North-South Institute
Withdrawing Canada from the Kyoto Protocol, while promoting the tarsands, pipelines, resource and extractive industries
Pursuing free trade and promoting commercial and corporate interests at public expense
The Harper government’s record of contempt for Parliament, due process (Afghan detainee hearings) and civil liberties (Bill C-51) is exceeded only by its contempt for diplomacy and multilateralism.
Delivery of the government’s ideologically driven, evidence-dismissing agenda has cost Canada’s reputation and influence dearly. Through its adulation of the military and attacks on science, democracy, and internationalism, the Conservatives have eroded Canadian values and interests, diminished Canada’s prosperity and security, run down our formerly admirable soft power, and spoiled the Canadian brand.
Canada’s hard-won standing as a generous, open, engaged and compassionate actor has been squandered.
Canada Falls Flat on the World Stage :   Information Clearing House - ICH
Over the past decade the warrior nation wannabes in Ottawa preferred to preside over disastrous years of war in Afghanistan, to help open a Pandora’s Box of multiple misfortunes by participating in an illegal regime change exercise in Libya, and unthinkingly to join in the anti-ISIL bombing of Iraq and Syria, thus worsening the refugee crisis and exposing Canadians to a heightened risk of retaliation at home and abroad.
Other hallmarks of the past decade?
Spurning progressive diplomatic or developmental initiatives of any description
Sidelining the public service and imposing drastic reductions to international capacity through cuts to DFATD, CIC, science-based departments and agencies, and international NGOs
Centralizing, controlling and censoring all international communications, while concentrating decision-making in the PMO
Failing to win election to the UN Security Council, while opting for a photo-op at Tim Horton’s over attending the UN General Assembly
Refusing to attend multilateral meetings, and rejecting or withdrawing from a variety of international agreements
Bungling Canada’s relationship with the Asia-Pacific region, the rising centre of the world political economy
Adopting a highly skewed set of policy positions on issues involving, variously, Iran, Israel, the Palestinians, and issues of Middle East peace
Shuttering the Pearson Peacekeeping Centre, the Canadian Centre for Human Rights and Democratic Development, and North-South Institute
Withdrawing Canada from the Kyoto Protocol, while promoting the tarsands, pipelines, resource and extractive industries
Pursuing free trade and promoting commercial and corporate interests at public expense
The Harper government’s record of contempt for Parliament, due process (Afghan detainee hearings) and civil liberties (Bill C-51) is exceeded only by its contempt for diplomacy and multilateralism.
Delivery of the government’s ideologically driven, evidence-dismissing agenda has cost Canada’s reputation and influence dearly. Through its adulation of the military and attacks on science, democracy, and internationalism, the Conservatives have eroded Canadian values and interests, diminished Canada’s prosperity and security, run down our formerly admirable soft power, and spoiled the Canadian brand.
Canada’s hard-won standing as a generous, open, engaged and compassionate actor has been squandered.
Canada Falls Flat on the World Stage :   Information Clearing House - ICH