Hamas attacks Israel

Ron in Regina

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A video advocating for Canadians to support Israel in the war against Hamas was flagged for inciting hatred on YouTube and blocked from paid promotion, the creators say.

The 18-minute video, created by the Aristotle Foundation, outlines landmark events in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and accuses Canadians of understanding the situation “exactly backwards.”
“Some Canadians are wrongly critical of Israel in its war with Hamas and Hezbollah,” the video description reads online. “Since the October 7th, 2023 massacre when 6,000 terrorists invaded Israel and murdered over 1,200 people, some have called for an end to the ‘genocide.’ Except these people aren’t referring to the victims of the October 7th massacre. They’re accusing Israel of genocide when Hamas and Hezbollah are to blame.”
The video opens with a brief look at Canadian history and national leaders who opposed slavery, Nazi Germany, civil rights and South African apartheid to make the case for why Israel should be supported in its war against Hamas.
This brief opening discussion springboards into a history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, terrorism, the peace process and the two-state solution. The video, narrated by Aristotle Foundation President Mark Milke, also references terrorism used by Jews before the establishment of Israel and ethnic cleansing that occurred during the 1948 Arab-Israel War.

“Israel is not perfect; no nation-state is,” Milke says near the halfway point. Link above, etc…
 

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Egypt and Israel are in talks to unblock crucial aid route, with Cairo and Hamas signaling they will drop demand that Israeli forces leave the area immediately.
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If Egypt and Israel agree, the crossing could open as soon as early December, according to the Arab negotiators. The fresh push to reopen the crossing is part of a new proposal being discussed with both Israel and Hamas to halt the fighting in Gaza for at least 60 days and allow Israel to maintain a military presence in the enclave. Hostages held in Gaza would begin to be freed after seven days.
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Hamas officials are expected to discuss the new proposal in Cairo on Saturday, the negotiators said. A Hamas official confirmed that a delegation was going to Cairo but declined to comment on its agenda.
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Hamas expressed openness to a cease-fire on Wednesday when it commented on the agreement reached in Lebanon, but has long resisted conditions that are important to Israel.
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The cease-fire in Lebanon, however, has taken Hamas’s ally Hezbollah out of the fray, leaving Hamas isolated and weakened after Israel killed many of its top officials and operatives, including leader Yahya Sinwar in October.
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Egypt and Hamas have both indicated that they won’t insist on the Israeli military leaving the Gaza side of the Rafah border crossing immediately, in a U-turn over a key demand that had scuttled previous attempts to reopen the crossing.

The Israeli Prime Minister’s Office declined to respond to a request for comment.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Israeli media Thursday that he isn’t prepared to end the war in Gaza. On Tuesday, he said Israel would “complete the task of obliterating Hamas.”
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Netanyahu’s hard-line coalition members have for months threatened to undermine the stability of his government if the prime minister signs a cease-fire agreement that ends the war without destroying Hamas, but he is coming under renewed pressure from families of hostages held in Gaza and the Biden administration in the wake of the Lebanon agreement.
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The deal in Lebanon put a spotlight on the dire conditions in the Gaza Strip, where more than a year of fighting has left much of the enclave in ruins, displaced the bulk of the more than two million people living there and killed more than 44,000 people, according to Palestinian health authorities, who don’t say how many were combatants.
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The International Court of Justice, the top United Nations tribunal, ordered Israel earlier this year to allow greater aid flow into the enclave and to reopen the Rafah land-border crossing. The International Criminal Court, a tribunal separate from the ICJ focused on individuals that is also located in The Hague, issued arrest warrants against Netanyahu and former Defense Minister Yoav Gallant last week, accusing their government of enacting policies aimed at intentionally starving Palestinians. Israel and both leaders have strongly opposed the charges.
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Canada pledges $50M for Palestinian humanitarian needs ahead of Gaza aid conference
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Dylan Robertson
Published Nov 29, 2024 • 1 minute read

OTTAWA — The Liberal government is announcing $50 million in humanitarian assistance for Palestinians in both the Gaza Strip and the West Bank.


International Development Minister Ahmed Hussen says the money will provide life-saving help such as medical assistance, food, water and protection services.

He says the funding will be delivered through partners such as the United Nations and the Red Cross.

His office did not immediately say how much of the funding will go to each territory, and how much will go to UNRWA, an agency supporting Palestinians with which Israel has cut ties.

The announcement comes ahead of a conference next Monday in Cairo on the humanitarian response in Gaza, where Canada has expressed concern over a possible looming famine.

Hussen’s office says more funding is needed to deal with “persistent and worsening catastrophic humanitarian conditions” in the territory.


Earlier Friday, two children and a woman were crushed to death as a crowd of Palestinians pushed to get bread at a Gaza bakery amid food shortages, The Associated Press reports.

Israel has faced sustained criticism over the amount humanitarian aid it allows to enter the Gaza Strip, particularly in the northern party of the Palestinian territory, since the start of the Israel-Hamas war last autumn.

Israel says it vets truckloads for security risks and is increasing how much aid is allowed into Gaza, but UN agencies and numerous countries say only a fraction of what is needed has been permitted to reach Palestinians.
 

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To go along with it:


"On 10 November 2023, I wrote in the New York Times: “As a historian of genocide, I believe that there is no proof that genocide is now taking place in Gaza, although it is very likely that war crimes, and even crimes against humanity, are happening. […] We know from history that it is crucial to warn of the potential for genocide before it occurs, rather than belatedly condemn it after it has taken place. I think we still have that time.”

I no longer believe that. By the time I travelled to Israel, I had become convinced that at least since the attack by the IDF on Rafah on 6 May 2024, it was no longer possible to deny that Israel was engaged in systematic war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocidal actions. It was not just that this attack against the last concentration of Gazans – most of them displaced already several times by the IDF, which now once again pushed them to a so-called safe zone – demonstrated a total disregard of any humanitarian standards. It also clearly indicated that the ultimate goal of this entire undertaking from the very beginning had been to make the entire Gaza Strip uninhabitable, and to debilitate its population to such a degree that it would either die out or seek all possible options to flee the territory. In other words, the rhetoric spouted by Israeli leaders since 7 October was now being translated into reality – namely, as the 1948 UN Genocide Convention puts it, that Israel was acting “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part”, the Palestinian population in Gaza, “as such, by killing, causing serious harm, or inflicting conditions of life meant to bring about the group’s destruction”."


But of course he's an anti-Semitic terrorist lover and couldn't POSSIBLY know or understand what's going on in Israel and Gaza and has NO CLUE what genocide really is.

Right?
 

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"On 10 November 2023, I wrote in the New York Times: “As a historian of genocide, I believe that there is no proof that genocide is now taking place in Gaza, although it is very likely that war crimes, and even crimes against humanity, are happening.
Ok.
But of course he's an anti-Semitic terrorist lover and couldn't POSSIBLY know or understand what's going on in Israel and Gaza and has NO CLUE what genocide really is.
Hell if I know. For all I know he’s a girl guide going door to door selling cookies.
Here’s a weird one;
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So if Gaza’s population before October 7th, 2023 was (about) 2.2 million, & their (Gaza’s) population growth is 2.02%, then its population increased by (about) 44,440 people.

That number almost sounds familiar though.
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So is Israel “Genocide’ing” Gaza to a balanced stagnant population (???) or is the death toll at 44,429 from the Israel/Hamas war, & the population still increased (about) by 44,440??? Either way, The term genocide was coined in 1943 by the Jewish-Polish lawyer Raphael Lemkin, who combined the Greek word "genos" (race or tribe) with the Latin word "cide" (to kill), & I don’t think this math fits the term coined by Raphael above without much…revision.
…what genocide really is.
OK, what is really what genocide actually is, & whose definition? Maybe the United Nations Genocide Convention in December 1948, which came into effect in January 1951?

This might not be good enough though ‘cuz Dr Lemkin (the Rapheal guy above that coined the term) campaigned to have genocide recognised as a crime under international law leading the the UN Genocide Convention, & Lemkin was a “Zionist” so…he’s a black hat who’s views aren’t supposed to count, etc…
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(Lemkin may also have been a girl guide going door to door selling cookies, as I haven’t looks too deeply at him ‘cuz Zionism)
…the rhetoric spouted by Israeli leaders since 7 October was now being translated into reality – namely, as the 1948 UN Genocide Convention puts it, that Israel was acting “with intent to destroy, in whole or in part”, the Palestinian population in Gaza, “as such, by killing, causing serious harm, or inflicting conditions of life meant to bring about the group’s destruction”."
…& what would it take to end this? Then what would happen after it ends? Yes, we all know that Israel & its leaders can’t possibly care about the 100 remaining hostages (some of those might even be living hostages, but most probably aren’t) and that’s why Hamas & Friends are still holding them, and their corpses…because they mean nothing to Israel, etc…heard it.

What would it take to end this latest chapter started October 7th, 2023?

What happens after Hamas is eliminated as a further threat to Israel & the Israeli hostages & corpses are returned to Israel?

In one scenario, the Palestinian Authority, which runs the occupied West Bank and is increasingly unpopular, would reassume control of the territory.

In another, Arab Gulf countries would fund efforts to rebuild Gaza and an international peacekeeping force would retain oversight.

In a third, Palestinians would be displaced to Egypt or other countries — a path raised by Israeli lawmakerseven though Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has said the war in Gaza is aimed at crushing Hamas, not expelling Palestinians.

Since Oct. 7, 2023, the beginning of Israeli operations in the Gaza Strip, tens of thousands of Palestinians have entered Egypt through the Rafah border crossing.

Between 80,000 and 100,000 Gazans are estimated to have crossed into Egypt from Gaza since then, the Palestinian Authority’s (PA) ambassador to Cairo told Agence France-Presse (AFP) in April, without elaborating on how they entered???

Hala Travel, the Egyptian agency in charge of the mechanism that facilitates the entry of Gazans into Egypt — some agencies in Egypt are in charge of coordinating their exit, and Gazans have to pay a "coordination fee" — was found to be part of a speculative system that has been set up around the Gazans' need to flee the enclave, according to an investigation carried out in February by the independent Mada Masr news outlet. A visa, which used to cost around $300 before the conflict, has been granted at a cost of between $5,000 and $7,000 since Oct. 7.

However, the current uncertain condition of Gazans in Cairo cannot be understood without considering Egypt's position on the Gaza crisis. “The Egyptian acts are pushed on the one hand by a sense of solidarity with the Palestinian cause but on the other hand as a matter of security,” explains Riccardo Fabiani, project director of North Africa for the International Crisis Group. “The Egyptian authorities are terrified of facing an outflow of Palestinians onto their territory.”
But it’s not just the outflow of Palestinians that concerns Cairo’s government; it's also where it would take place. “Sinai, the region bordering the Gaza Strip, is not a territory like any other.

Out of the approximately 15 main militant groups operating in the Sinai desert, the most dominant and active militant groups formerly had close relations with the Gaza Strip.
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The Army of Islam, a U.S. designated terrorist organization based in the Gaza Strip, is responsible for training and supplying many militant organizations and jihadist members in Sinai.

It is an area that has been and is still going through a long phase of instability because of jihadist phenomenon,” Fabiani tells Al-Monitor, pointing to the slippery slope the Egyptian government has been on throughout this crisis.
 

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A video advocating for Canadians to support Israel in the war against Hamas was flagged for inciting hatred on YouTube and blocked from paid promotion, the creators say.

The 18-minute video, created by the Aristotle Foundation, outlines landmark events in the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict and accuses Canadians of understanding the situation “exactly backwards.”
“Some Canadians are wrongly critical of Israel in its war with Hamas and Hezbollah,” the video description reads online. “Since the October 7th, 2023 massacre when 6,000 terrorists invaded Israel and murdered over 1,200 people, some have called for an end to the ‘genocide.’ Except these people aren’t referring to the victims of the October 7th massacre. They’re accusing Israel of genocide when Hamas and Hezbollah are to blame.”
The video opens with a brief look at Canadian history and national leaders who opposed slavery, Nazi Germany, civil rights and South African apartheid to make the case for why Israel should be supported in its war against Hamas.
This brief opening discussion springboards into a history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, terrorism, the peace process and the two-state solution. The video, narrated by Aristotle Foundation President Mark Milke, also references terrorism used by Jews before the establishment of Israel and ethnic cleansing that occurred during the 1948 Arab-Israel War.

“Israel is not perfect; no nation-state is,” Milke says near the halfway point. Link a
Old Chinese proverb: Don't start a war you can't win. Kill them with diabetes instead.
 
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DEIR AL-BALAH, GAZA STRIP -
The UN agency for Palestinian refugees said Sunday it is halting aid deliveries through the main cargo crossing into the war-ravaged Gaza Strip because of the threat of armed gangs who have looted convoys. It blamed the breakdown of law and order in large part on Israeli policies.
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The Israeli military body in charge of humanitarian aid to Gaza said in an X post that it will “continue to work with the international community to increase the amount of aid making its way into Gaza” through Kerem Shalom and other crossings, and said UNRWA coordinated less than 10 per cent of the aid that entered Gaza in November.

The Israeli military accuses UNRWA of having allowed Hamas to infiltrate its ranks — allegations denied by the U.N. agency — and passed legislation to sever ties with it last month.
 

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"Damn you Hamas"

From the mouths of babes. Maybe Hamas doesn't have the support some people seem to think it does; but when you're just focused on surviving, you can't do SHIT about those who are "in control".

And fuck people like RCS, Tax, and anyone else who want these kids to be killed just for being born in Gaza. You're just as fucking disgusting as Hamas.
 

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Israel's Former Defense Minister, Army Chief Reaffirms Accusation of IDF Ethnic Cleansing in North Gaza
The former IDF chief and defense minister reasserted his claim that Israel is committing ethnic cleansing in northern Gaza, saying that 'the IDF is not the most moral army in the world,' prompting criticism across Israel's political spectrum

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Dozens of people taken during the 7 October 2023 Hamas attack remain unaccounted for. On Monday, the Israeli military said an Israeli-American soldier who it believed to be a captive had in fact been killed last October.

Without mentioning Hamas by name, Trump posted online the same day: "Those responsible will be hit harder than anybody has been hit in the long and storied history of the United States of America."

Israel's President Benjamin Netanyahu thanked Trump for his "strong statement".
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US President-elect Donald Trump has issued an “apparent” (?) warning to Hamas, threatening "all hell to pay" if hostages held in Gaza are not released by the time he returns to the White House on 20 January.
During their deadly 2023 attack on Israel, Hamas-led militants captured more than 250 people. Some have been released or freed but around half of them are still in Gaza, although at least a third of these are believed to be dead.

Weirdly, the Hamas controlled Gaza Health Ministry can give exact figures right down to the individual for “Palestinians” in Gaza, but regarding the hostages abducted from Israel Oct 7th, 2023…they have to estimate fractions of the total for living & dead? That really puts their own totals in question, doesn’t it?
 

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Apparently he was also raped while being held captive.

Now, before the usuals start screaming about how Israeli's were raped, let me be clear, RAPE IS NEVER OKAY. It's not okay when Hamas does it, it's not okay when the IDF does it. If you are one of those types of people who like to say well if X raped people then they can be raped back...

You're a fucking monster; more than.

Also congrats for continuing to be part of the problem overall.
 

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Here's what you need to know 425 days into the war

An Israeli delegation led by the Shin Bet head will land in Cairo on Thursday for Gaza truce talks. Seventeen Palestinians were killed in an Israeli attack on Al-Mawasi, the Red Crescent said. Reuters reported that Hamas said it had information that Israel intended to carry out a hostage rescue operation and threatened to "neutralize" the captives if it took place. The IDF presented its investigation into the deaths of six hostages whose bodies were retrieved from Gaza in August, saying they were likely murdered while the army was striking nearby and was unaware of their presence in the area. Hostage families said the findings prove that military pressure leads to hostages' deaths. Jewish settlers set fire to houses in a Palestinian village in the West Bank overnight.
 

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Trump Is Now the U.S. Hostages' Only Hope. But He Mustn't Be Fooled by Netanyahu

President-elect Trump, forget talking to Israeli Strategic Affairs Minister Ron Dermer, who has played a key role in Netanyahu's obstruction of the hostage negotiations. Hear out the families of American hostages, they are a million times more committed to getting a hostage deal done

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