Hamas attacks Israel

Serryah

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I'll settle for "not bloody." People will fight over any damn thing, including "My corporate logo can beat your corporate logo in a game."

Throw in the previous centuries? Sure, why not? And we can throw in the previous centuries of internal and external conflict in Ireland and add another 800 years to the tally.

I'm not sure the ME will ever reach that point either. I just said it's reason to hope.

I used to have hope.

Then an extremist Jewish man killed that hope.

But... you could be right; it's the "how they get there" that worries me.
 

Ron in Regina

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Now it has emerged that the attacks on the Jewish football fans were planned in advance and co-ordinated using WhatsApp and Telegram.

The Telegraph has seen messages from a group chat called Buurthuis, a Dutch word for a type of community centre, which were posted on Wednesday, the day before the match.

One message says: “Tomorrow after the game, at night, part 2 of the Jew Hunt.
The CBC is at it again. This time, they’re explaining away the attacks on Israeli soccer fans that happened in Amsterdam on Nov. 7, suggesting there is a “clearer,” much more “nuanced” explanation for the violence that was doled out that night by individuals who chased and assaulted Jews in the street.
I hadn't seen that yet. If true, then these racist fucks deserve to not only be thrown in jail but have similar happen to them.

Of course you still keep ignoring that shit happened to non-Israeli people too.
After reading the letter and the CBC article a second time, I was left wondering, did we even read the same document?
(See link in 4131 & 4133)
The article seems to imply that no “Jew hunt” ever took place in Amsterdam — “a clearer picture of what happened that night is slowly emerging” — despite the fact that a “hunt on Jews” is mentioned in black and white on page 1 of the mayor’s letter. This should shock all Canadians. Was this reporter hoping no one would actually read the letter?
That’s why I post links. The one citing this is in posts 4131 & 4133, but I get it.
Assumedly to diminish the severity of events, the CBC reporter follows up with a “but” and a claim that the letter in question “indicates it was Israeli fans who initiated the first attacks, which then spiralled.”

But taking down a flag is not an attack. Random vandalism on taxi cabs, allegedly perpetrated by Israelis, is also not an attack. Nor is chanting offensive slogans. Has this reporter even been in Montreal on a Canadiens playoff game night? Forget taxis, police cars get overturned and set ablaze.
…& maybe it wasn’t Hamas, just regular folks with Palestinian flags hunting Jews or just fans for a Jewish team or an Israeli team or whatever….But it wasn’t as bad as the Nazis & Kristallnacht or the anti-gay purges in Chechnya…so boys will be boys. Non-issue. Nothing to see here. Move along.
A clear picture is, indeed, painted of how police intercepted calls for riots to be incited across the city, how an Israeli was asked for his passport by a man on a scooter as a taxi driver told another Israeli he and his friends “would find him” and how fearful Israelis sheltered from threatening individuals waiting outside their hotels.

The mayor’s letter tells us that, at one point, a propaganda video taking credit for the attacks and claiming to be from Hamas appeared on social media. The prime minister later brushed this possibility aside at a conference, suggesting it was a Hamas publicity stunt.

We’re plainly told that police monitored the spike in these messages on open and closed Telegram and WhatsApp groups. The tone of these suggestions “grew harsher” and “antisemitic.” Authorities later concluded that these messages were primarily made by “young Moroccan Amsterdammers” who turned against the Israeli team supporters.

Unlike the CBC’s downplaying of events, the letter by Amsterdam authorities does not mince words about the “aggressive and threatening messages” that appeared on “several social media platforms” prior to the attacks on Israelis.

They noted a “significant level of aggression and willingness to act, and, in some cases, mobilization at specific locations.” As if that wasn’t enough, police “received reports that taxi drivers were being called to assemble at Strandvliet metro station, where the Maccabi supporters would be disembarking.”

Which acts made Israeli soccer fans across the city deserving of such violence? The CBC points to a Nov. 11 joint letter by the Amsterdam mayor, police chief and chief prosecutor to council members, which states that some taxis in some parts of the city were vandalized, allegedly by Israelis; that an Israeli soccer fan took down a Palestinian flag from a building; and that others chanted slogans supporting the Israel Defense Forces.

…the CBC article claims that the mayor’s letter does not specify who attacked the Israeli soccer fans. It says, “other groups (the report does not say precisely who) then engaged in ‘violent hit and run actions’ targeting Israelis.” They must’ve attacked themselves. I guess it’s a mystery.

Except, of course, it’s not.
This doesn’t sound like your run-of-the-mill sports hooliganism to me. Nor does it sound like Israeli soccer fans asked for it. But CBC has made gaslighting Jews, especially since October 7, a national sport and a pastime.
 

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But I guess according to Tax, Jin, and so many others here, this guy is anti-Jewish and he has no clue what he's talking about and he's pro terrorist and so on and so on...


And guess these Jews too are Anti-Jewish and terrorist supporters...
 

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Zionists We dont like Zionists. Conflating the two is the result of propaganda fucking with your head.
FDR said he didn't think Jews could be good Americans. Not Zionists, Jews. And I don't recollect the Nazis ever saying they were going after Zionists. Anti-Jewish discrimination and violence is as European as the Rhine and the Thames (and the St. Lawrence and the Darling).
 

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FDR said he didn't think Jews could be good Americans. Not Zionists, Jews. And I don't recollect the Nazis ever saying they were going after Zionists. Anti-Jewish discrimination and violence is as European as the Rhine and the Thames (and the St. Lawrence and the Darling).
Its 2024.