Maybe it was me misunderstanding.
TB asked: "why do you find the existence of both terrorists and people pleading for peace in Gaza comment-worthy?"
Ah…I see. I did misunderstand. I pointed out that
everyone in this thread had commented on this subject, as it seemed like (to me at the time) he was asking me why I was commenting on the subject.
If Hamas didn’t do what it did Oct 7th, would we even be discussing this (?) or would we be finger pointing at Epstein and Trump and Trudeau and various other epitome of hypocrisy, etc…?
It’s a series of dominoes. It’ll play out, and we’ll comment on it. Both of us, and others.
The Thread Title is literally, “Hamas attacks Israel” & the OP#1 was on Oct 7th, 2023, posted by yourself.
That was the starting point of the Thread, in reaction to Hamas Attacking Israel, on October 7th.
Your reply, while it mentions Hamas and what it did, didn't seem to answer the question of what you think the existence of terrorists and people pleading for peace in Gaza was comment-worthy.
If it wasn’t comment worthy, the thread you started on Oct 7th titled “Hamas Attacks Israel” would have faded away after a couple of posts and it wouldn’t be 57 pages in, so far.
Should I have mentioned Israel attacking Hamas on Oct 7th? I guess they did in a reactive “repelling boarders” sort’a way on Oct 7th? I could’ve I suppose but I didn’t think that’s what was being asked.
Should I have responded to what’s happened since Oct 7th in Reaction to Oct 7th in the last three months, because I have in the last 57 pages here, but I didn’t think that’s what he was asking.
Anyway, I think you think that he thought (& maybe he was?) that I think all Palestinians (in Gaza) must pay for the actions of their government that many of them must support. Is that what you’re asking through his question? If so ironically his question was in response to a bombing in Syria, but anyway….
It’s an ugly tangled ball of faecal coated whatever, and unfortunately, once Hamas and several civilians attacked civilians in Israel on Oct 7th, filming themselves with cellphone cameras and GoPro’s, and then they abducted 250-ish people back into Gaza, after filming themselves, doing all kinds of crazy shit, and the filming Of the Gaza citizenry (I’m thinking specifically of the German tattoo artist naked in the back of the pick up truck) cheering on Hamas… How does an outside entity (like a nation, or a citizen of another nation) separate Hamas & its supporters from the other citizenry of Gaza going forward???
To put it another way, when the original question was asked ("Do you hold every Palestinian responsible for the actions of Ham-ass?") you said nope.
That’s exactly what I said in a single “Nope” in answer to that question, with some follow-up questions of my own, that weren’t answered, and you’re not questioning that? The unanswered questions I mean?
When TB asked the second question, I took it more to mean - if no is the answer, then why does it seem you're doing the exact opposite.
The opposite of What?
“Regardless of Hamas or Palestinians, you seem to lump them all into one reactive issue, that is they're all guilty regardless.”
Ahhhh…OK. That’s your question through his question that you didn’t think I answered. I’m smelling what you’re cooking now. I think, without realizing where you were going until now, I’ve just answered the question above.
If you can separate the Hamas & its supporters in Gaza from the Non-Hamas & the Non-Supporters in Gaza, in a way that’s clear to all outsiders & governments and nations that are going to be asked and expected to accept a million Gaza Citizens as refugees (some of them third or fourth or fifth generation refugees according to the UN, regardless, of where they live or have lived for generations), that would clear up a lot of confusion.
Can you separate them? The Hamas & Hamas Supporters from the non-Hamas & Non-Hamas Supporters? If you can, please do so, but if you can’t, why are you asking me (through somebody else’s question) why I’m also not doing so?
Regardless of Hamas or Palestinians, you seem to lump them all into one reactive issue, that is they're all guilty regardless.
Do you think I’m holding ALL Palestinians to account for the actions of Hamas? I know there’s 57 pages of it here, but I’ve stated repeatedly, “not all Palestinians are Hamas, but all Hamas are Palestinians!” Which are which though?
Hamas isn’t operating in a vacuum, Whether in Gaza or Qatar or elsewhere, hermetically sealed away from the non-Hamas Combat-Cadre without civilian support or supporters though.
Again, could have been me, it was a shitshow of a day and early.
Empathy on the shitshow (out here we call it a goat-rodeo) of a day. Mine started midday on the 1st & it really hasn’t stopped yet. Mucho Empathy!! It’s been a solid week of herding cats.